Question: Do you think the Leafs have achieved adequate success during Shanahan’s tenure as Pres?

In 10 years here’s what he did…

2014: He tanked the team (Drafted Matthews)

2015/2016: Made the playoffs (great success! (Borat))

2017: 1st rd exit

2018: 1st rd exit

2019: 1st rd exit

2020: missed playoffs (lost to awful CLB team play-in)

2021: 1st rd exit vs Habs

2022: 1st rd exit

2023: beat badly injured TB team, got crushed in 2nd rd.

2024: ???
- Arctic_AARDVARK

they drafted matthews in 2016

hes carved out a pretty good gig for himself after starting out just posting Leafs stuff on TY

he was on TV (sportsnet?)..wrote a book I think..and now has a podcast.

basically hes getting paid now to do what we do here all day for free
- senstroll

Yeah, can’t argue with the hustle..

If his takes keep getting better, I’ll start listening again.

Who the phuck is Dangle?
- GalacticStone

Aka Steven Seagull

He wanted us to sign Dreidger
3 x 3.5m 😳

😆

they drafted matthews in 2016
- senstroll

Whatever. Point stands.

Let’s not pretend the Leafs weren’t in a fantastic position to acquire those types via trade this year.

Guys like Bertuzzi aren’t having the desired effect, because Matthews, Nylander, and Marner are who they are. They’ll never engage in after the whistle shenanigans.

But whatever, pay them $11.5M. The Leafs just lit a massive billboard on the Gardiner saying “play exactly like Nylander does, and we’ll pay you $11.5M. Play like Hyman or Kadri, and we’ll trade you.”
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Bertuzzi isn’t having the desired effect because he sucks. He loses almost every puck battle, he coasts in on the forecheck, he turns pucks over at both blue lines, he can’t shoot but it’s Matthews, Marner, Nylander’s fault?

Bertuzzi isn’t having the desired effect because he sucks. He loses almost every puck battle, he coasts in on the forecheck, he turns pucks over at both blue lines, he can’t shoot but it’s Matthews, Marner, Nylander’s fault?
- Canada Cup

No ones coming in to change the culture.

That’s obviously what I’m talking about.

It’s Shannys fault. Everything is leading back to Shanny’s incompetence.

Does dozzer not ref these boards...Horrible ref.
- nbboy

Canadien snowflake alert

Canadien snowflake alert
- TrueGrit

He’s French?

Probably.

- Zezel

Nice pic of Willie Stiles

In every Leafs fan mind, they’re only one small tweak away from winning it all
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Adding two top 4 blueliners is a small tweak?

45 minutes per night of top flight defending ...it's a big change ..a big improvement.

It'd be like replacing you with something remotely intelligent.

The trolls are so activated about Rielly lol
- Zezel

And they say they don't care about the leafs or that they don't live rent free in their heads.


At the end of the day, it's a regular season suspension. Who cares?

I'm ancient. I don't consume podcasts.

I get all of my hockey takes from the best and only acceptable place : HockeyBuzz.
- GalacticStone

I’m also old. I’ve never listened to a podcast and I’ve never taken a selfie.

Adding two top 4 blueliners is a small tweak?

45 minutes per night of top flight defending ...it's a big change ..a big improvement.

It'd be like replacing you with something remotely intelligent.
- The Law

Well, I’m glad you figured it all out.

Probably shouldn’t spend all their cash on 4 soft forwards.

So you agree with me.

Good for you.

The core is soft, we all know that.
People argue with you over dumb willie trades and comments.
He goes one period or game without a point and you're in here talking like hes gone pointless for 20 games and that hes cost the leafs 10 wins.
Most players arent awesome every game, ups and downs occur. Look at marner.

And dangle is still annoying AF for the most part.
- Fakepartofme

If and I mean it would never happen …. But if 88 became available …every team … EVERY one would be falling over themselves to get him.

Well, I’m glad you figured it all out.

Probably shouldn’t spend all their cash on 4 soft forwards.

So you agree with me.

Good for you.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

That wasn't the point you were trying to make but ya, I'm on the record years ago saying they needed to re-allocate $$ to the blue line.

And they say they don't care about the leafs or that they don't live rent free in their heads.


At the end of the day, it's a regular season suspension. Who cares?
- Aaron_85

We see the future...that is why it matters. When you drop 5 of 6 and are a bubble team...that is why it matters.

If and I mean it would never happen …. But if 88 became available …every team … EVERY one would be falling over themselves to get him.
- dozerD10

He was available.

He submitted his 10 team no-trade list.

No one was “falling over” trying to get him, lol.

I’m sure some teams would’ve kicked the tires, but no one values him more than Shanny does.

Watch, he’ll be a 65-70pt player the rest of his career, and never figure out how to play defence.

He was available.

He submitted his 10 team no-trade list.

No one was “falling over” trying to get him, lol.

I’m sure some teams would’ve kicked the tires, but no one values him more than Shanny does.

Watch, he’ll be a 65-70pt player the rest of his career, and never figure out how to play defence.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

This is a terrible take

And they say they don't care about the leafs or that they don't live rent free in their heads.


At the end of the day, it's a regular season suspension. Who cares?
- Aaron_85

Good point, Aaron.

Timmins likely goes on LTIR...so a little more cap space at least

Good point, Aaron.
- Marwood

I feel bad for you

move on

This is a terrible take
- Santo_44

NO that is the sound of the hammer hitting the nail squarely

NO that is the sound of the hammer hitting the nail squarely
- TrueGrit

This is the sound of the Leafs living rent free in your head.

You are more obsessed with the Leafs than the Leaf fans in here, congratulations.

Question: Do you think the Leafs have achieved adequate success during Shanahan’s tenure as Pres?

In 10 years here’s what he did…

2014: He tanked the team

2015: Tank again. Drafted Matthews.

2016: Made the playoffs (great success! (Borat))

2017: 1st rd exit

2018: 1st rd exit

2019: 1st rd exit

2020: missed playoffs (lost to awful CLB team play-in)

2021: 1st rd exit vs Habs

2022: 1st rd exit

2023: beat badly injured TB team, got crushed in 2nd rd.

2024: ???
- Arctic_AARDVARK

2025: Profit

He was available.

He submitted his 10 team no-trade list.

No one was “falling over” trying to get him, lol.

I’m sure some teams would’ve kicked the tires, but no one values him more than Shanny does.

Watch, he’ll be a 65-70pt player the rest of his career, and never figure out how to play defence.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

I feel like the issue is less about Nylander, Matthews, Marner and more about how Domi and Bertuzzi are making $8.5 million combined and have scored the same nnumber of goals as Bunting (who is getting 3rd line ice time this season).