Do you want them to be aggressive? They aren't doing much of anything, if anything, outside of Walker and/or Seeler.
- Pelle31Forever

If the price is right. I don't want the Flyers to make a trade just to make a trade, nor do I want the Flyers to just give away their players. Briere has to balance the return he is getting on any player with the impact to the team and the room. This is not a team that is heading for legitimate lottery odds, this is team playing their butts off and paying the price to win hockey games. So I am for trading any player on the team, but it has to be something that will move the Flyers closer to legitimate contention in the near future. So if the Flyers don't get their price (1st round pick or 2nd round pick + prospect) they should keep Walker. I would rather watch Walker play for this team in the playoffs and walk away versus being traded for a 3rd round pick.

The point is, he played well, and set the guys up..he did his job. They didn't finish..how is that his fault?
- TheFreak

😂 absolutely insane. Count up all the phantom points you need to make you feel better

I swear we are the only fan base that can be winning, over performing, making the playoffs, and still be mad about everything
- nails

Not the fan base, just a select few that can't just be happy the team is winning.

That's because you don't seem to grasp that it's about re-building. Laughton is 29 years old and a veteran player. The simplest things need to be explained to you.
- MJL

No, you don't grasp what re-building means, and honestly I don't think you are capable of understanding what re-building means.

asl yourself this question. Why would walker take 2 years heading into F/A after the year he has had so far?

He won't as this is his last big contract more than likely. He would be signed already if he would take 2 years.
- hello it's me 2050

I don't disagree, he'd have to really like it here to do that - a miracle playoff run could sway him but we know that's unlikely. I just want to set a precedent that we won't be over-commiting to anyone, especially at his age. Lol what I want to happen and what will happen are usually very different things.

A big reason we would need to trade him is the logjam at D and we are essentially stuck with Risto, barring a miracle. To me it sounds like they like the player - which could turn into "falling in love"

That's false. Frost has not been treated like everyone else on the team. He's been treated much differently.

Attacking the middle of the ice is your current pet phrase for criticizing Frost. Simply because you heard Tortorella say something so now you'll parrot that. You continue to be easily manipulated.
- MJL

People on this site know that I have been saying this about Frost for 2 years now, this is not something new. You need to pick your head out of your butt and the stat sheet and actually watch the games to see how players play. Frost has been treated like he needs to be treated to get the best out of him. This is what you don't understand.

AntSan for the whole "Hayes is to blame for Cutter not wanting to be here"
- anti-lame

Thank you!

Anthony Di Marco
@ADiMarco25
As the TD drawing closer, important to reiterate that Sean Walker is not a slam dunk to be moved. PHI will only move RHD if their ask is met - a 1st RD pick or a package similar in value (2nd RD+ prospect).


Will the Flyers price themselves out of the market? Odds of a quiet deadline up sharply.
- StepfordSam

Well they aren't getting a first for Walker so......

If the price is right. I don't want the Flyers to make a trade just to make a trade, nor do I want the Flyers to just give away their players. Briere has to balance the return he is getting on any player with the impact to the team and the room. This is not a team that is heading for legitimate lottery odds, this is team playing their butts off and paying the price to win hockey games. So I am for trading any player on the team, but it has to be something that will move the Flyers closer to legitimate contention in the near future. So if the Flyers don't get their price (1st round pick or 2nd round pick + prospect) they should keep Walker. I would rather watch Walker play for this team in the playoffs and walk away versus being traded for a 3rd round pick.
- jd250

you sound just like the gm and coach/gm, meaning they don't want to trade anyone unless a dope GM comes along. No team is gonna overpay. That being said no reason not to get a good deal. Also goes back to what "jonesy" said, we want to be fair and both teams win a deal or something to that effect. Laughable.

in bold is the short term vision that kills this franchise year after year

you sound just like the gm and coach/gm, meaning they don't want to trade anyone unless a dope GM comes along. No team is gonna overpay. That being said no reason not to get a good deal. Also goes back to what "jonesy" said, we want to be fair and both teams win a deal or something to that effect. Laughable.

in bold is the short term vision that kills this franchise year after year
- hello it's me 2050

What term do you think Walker will get on the market and would you be willing to give that to him if Risto were to be dealt?

I don't disagree, he'd have to really like it here to do that - a miracle playoff run could sway him but we know that's unlikely. I just want to set a precedent that we won't be over-commiting to anyone, especially at his age. Lol what I want to happen and what will happen are usually very different things.

A big reason we would need to trade him is the logjam at D and we are essentially stuck with Risto, barring a miracle. To me it sounds like they like the player - which could turn into "falling in love"

- anti-lame

I cant see any GM taking on RR for 3+ years at his salary. He isn't that good. Gets the least amount of minutes on this team, so all of a sudden some coach or GM is gonna be like yes he is the answer.

They are stuck with RR and at this point that's fine. Maybe net summer you can move him with some retention or take back a equally bad contract.

flyers need t look at the long game not the short game. Do they have the guts to do that? I doubt it.

What term do you think Walker will get on the market and would you be willing to give that to him if Risto were to be dealt?
- anti-lame

he is gonna get 4 years at least imo. closer to 5 if not 5+ per. Hard to say as being RH inflates his value.

If I can get a 1s/good nhl ready prospect for him and pick/prospect I make the deal Sonny.

Whose question did Torts refuse to answer? They were gonna ask a Frost question and Torts shut them down right away. Next guy asked a Frost question and he answered him.

By the way, loved Torts’ response. No question Frost played a great game yesterday but to say he’s played well all season and has driven play more than anyone dating back to last season, I disagree. If this is true, the bar isn’t very high for a low offensive team.
- roenick97

Rhymes with Shmanthony Shman Shmilippo.

Well they aren't getting a first for Walker so......
- Pelle31Forever

Why? Walker will be highly coveted by the Toronto Maple Leafs, Dallas Stars, Edmonton Oilers, possibly the Detroit Red Wings and Tampa Bay Lightning could all need help on the blueline, and a veteran to stabilize the backend who is having a strong season could help either of those aforementioned teams.

As of today, Dallas has the 30th pick, Edmonton the 23rd pick, Toronto the 22nd, and Detroit 19th.Tampa does not have a 1st round pick this year or next year, but they have a 2nd rounder next year. So there are options here. I would think Dallas or Edmonton are the best bets.

you sound just like the gm and coach/gm, meaning they don't want to trade anyone unless a dope GM comes along. No team is gonna overpay. That being said no reason not to get a good deal. Also goes back to what "jonesy" said, we want to be fair and both teams win a deal or something to that effect. Laughable.

in bold is the short term vision that kills this franchise year after year
- hello it's me 2050

What are you talking about?? Teams overpay for players at the deadline and in free agency all the time! What, because it's the Flyers, teams will not overpay? Asking for a 1st round pick for a legitimate top 4 defender that plays 19-20 minutes a game and has no term after this season is not an overpay BTW!

I don't think you're in the minority but I feel we as fand need to come to grips with Flyers not dealing him March 8th. Not while they are in the playoff hunt.
- Pelle31Forever

This. Can you imagine if they traded TK right now? It would gut the team and with every lose the fan base would get uglier and uglier towards management. If a TK trade happens, it’s during the off season.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....-the-best-prospect-assets

love me some seamus casey....

What are you talking about?? Teams overpay for players at the deadline and in free agency all the time! What, because it's the Flyers, teams will not overpay? Asking for a 1st round pick for a legitimate top 4 defender that plays 19-20 minutes a game and has no term after this season is not an overpay BTW!
- jd250

you now what I mean when I say overpay. Just like you and the flyers brass keep saying. Need to floored by an offer. Not talking an extra pick or what not.

Bottom line until I see otherwise is the flyers really do not have interest in moving their players. they owe to ex selke and the guys in the "room".

you now what I mean when I say overpay. Just like you and the flyers brass keep saying. Need to floored by an offer. Not talking an extra pick or what not.

Bottom line until I see otherwise is the flyers really do not have interest in moving their players. they owe to ex selke and the guys in the "room".
- hello it's me 2050

No, not floored, but it has to be something that makes sense for the Flyers and is worth losing Walker from a team that is playing their butts off to win games. So the price that I have heard being asked for Walker is a 1st round pick or a 2nd round pick + a prospect. Seems well in line with what other teams are paying for similar players.

he is gonna get 4 years at least imo. closer to 5 if not 5+ per. Hard to say as being RH inflates his value.

If I can get a 1s/good nhl ready prospect for him and pick/prospect I make the deal Sonny.
- hello it's me 2050

i agree if any first is involved you bring the paperwork to the NHL yourself and drive him to the airport.

moving Risto at the deadline would be a home run move IMO - and if that means they'd give that term to Walker and essentially swap Risto for Walker for those years, I could live with that.

but moving both (eventually) is the right way to go.

No, not floored, but it has to be something that makes sense for the Flyers and is worth losing Walker from a team that is playing their butts off to win games. So the price that I have heard being asked for Walker is a 1st round pick or a 2nd round pick + a prospect. Seems well in line with what other teams are paying for similar players.
- jd250

It’s not only about the demand….it’s the supply. So far Walker looks like both a great trade chip both player and contract wise…we’ll see but I like the ask.

I have a gut feeling they will be trying hard to move Risto by any means possible and resign Walker if they can.
- MBFlyerfan

i would prefer this

Why? Walker will be highly coveted by the Toronto Maple Leafs, Dallas Stars, Edmonton Oilers, possibly the Detroit Red Wings and Tampa Bay Lightning could all need help on the blueline, and a veteran to stabilize the backend who is having a strong season could help either of those aforementioned teams.

As of today, Dallas has the 30th pick, Edmonton the 23rd pick, Toronto the 22nd, and Detroit 19th.Tampa does not have a 1st round pick this year or next year, but they have a 2nd rounder next year. So there are options here. I would think Dallas or Edmonton are the best bets.
- jd250

Not with guys like Tanev and Hanafin out there. Even Chykrun with a year left will be a top target. Those are the guys teams will bid high on. Once/if those guys are are dealt GM's will circle back to the Walkers of the world.

the reason he doesn't like "rhetoric" is because he has no experience to put any of it in context. stuff like the locker room means nothing to him because he's never been in one.
- anti-lame

Not trying to belittle or talk poop on anyone….but this summation jives with the internet hard.

I legit don’t expect every hockey fan to have played hockey, nor do I discount the fandom or opinions of those that haven’t

But there is a bit of a skewed vision between the two sides

Not trying to belittle or talk poop on anyone….but this summation jives with the internet hard.

I legit don’t expect every hockey fan to have played hockey, nor do I discount the fandom or opinions of those that haven’t

But there is a bit of a skewed vision between the two sides
- Wingdestroyer

And especially when the side that’s never sniffed the ice is telling the rest of us what we are watching