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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 17 @ 11:47 AM ET
https://www.inquirer.com/flyers/inq2/sean-couturier-flyers-captains-all-quiz-20240215.html

18/19

- THE BLACK HAND


Thanks for sharing. That was fun. The older ones I struggled with. Missed van impe and Bridgman.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
When is the parade scheduled for having played the most outdoor games?
- MJL


It’s a mark of shame having played so many of these. Another obstacle to the rebuild. Haha.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 17 @ 11:48 AM ET

- THE BLACK HAND

That’s right. Thank you

Simmonds last game
THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Feb 17 @ 11:48 AM ET
Thanks for sharing. That was fun. The older ones I struggled with. Missed van impe and Bridgman.
- Hextall271

i missed Barber
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 17 @ 11:49 AM ET
When is the parade scheduled for having played the most outdoor games?
- MJL
You better be nice or I'll get JD after you!! He'll fix your wagon!
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
It’s a mark of shame having played so many of these. Another obstacle to the rebuild. Haha.
- Hextall271

THE BLACK HAND
Joined: 06.09.2021

Feb 17 @ 11:50 AM ET
That’s right. Thank you

Simmonds last game

- roenick97




this was the pic i was looking for
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 17 @ 11:51 AM ET



this was the pic i was looking for

- THE BLACK HAND

I like your first one better but this one is good.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 11:52 AM ET
You better be nice or I'll get JD after you!! He'll fix your wagon!

- Phillywhiteout


Oh no!
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 17 @ 12:03 PM ET
i missed Barber
- THE BLACK HAND


You know, I remembered he had. I only started really watching the team in 1984 ish so the older ones were a struggle. I though ashbee had served as a captain but was wrong.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Feb 17 @ 12:07 PM ET
If the Flyers put Ellis on LTIR they have about 14m in available salary cap....?! 😳

That's a lot of space to take on toxic contracts in order to obtain better assets.
Get em, DB!

When was the last time that the flyers had this much cap space available?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 17 @ 12:09 PM ET
If the Flyers put Ellis on LTIR they have about 14m in available salary cap....?! 😳

That's a lot of space to take on toxic contracts in order to obtain better assets.
Get em, DB!

When was the last time that the flyers had this much cap space available?

- Bob Habib


No idea but I’d be all over weaponizing the cap space like that. To me, the leafs should not be able to routinely get our from under these bad contracts by sending them to the team dr to get a note saying career over. Ltir. They should be forced to pony up picks to have us or zona take bad contracts.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Feb 17 @ 12:10 PM ET
When is the parade scheduled for having played the most outdoor games?
- MJL

February 30th at 4 PM
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Feb 17 @ 12:14 PM ET
No idea but I’d be all over weaponizing the cap space like that. To me, the leafs should not be able to routinely get our from under these bad contracts by sending them to the team dr to get a note saying career over. Ltir. They should be forced to pony up picks to have us or zona take bad contracts.
- Hextall271

Depending on the amount of the players cap hit I could see getting a 1st to take on 5m of bad cap.
It would be nice to find the next Monohan and double dip on 1st round picks like MTL did. That was a sly and smart move
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 17 @ 12:18 PM ET
Depending on the amount of the players cap hit I could see getting a 1st to take on 5m of bad cap.
It would be nice to find the next Monohan and double dip on 1st round picks like MTL did. That was a sly and smart move

- Bob Habib


We’ve got two. Imagine if we could get another first? Really help re stock the cupboards. Very important draft needless to say.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 17 @ 12:22 PM ET
If the Flyers put Ellis on LTIR they have about 14m in available salary cap....?! 😳

That's a lot of space to take on toxic contracts in order to obtain better assets.
Get em, DB!

When was the last time that the flyers had this much cap space available?

- Bob Habib

I thought Rostolainen and the entire 4th line was putting us over the cap.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 12:22 PM ET
No idea but I’d be all over weaponizing the cap space like that. To me, the leafs should not be able to routinely get our from under these bad contracts by sending them to the team dr to get a note saying career over. Ltir. They should be forced to pony up picks to have us or zona take bad contracts.
- Hextall271


Why should the rules be different for Toronto than for other teams?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 12:26 PM ET
Depending on the amount of the players cap hit I could see getting a 1st to take on 5m of bad cap.
It would be nice to find the next Monohan and double dip on 1st round picks like MTL did. That was a sly and smart move

- Bob Habib


Have to look at history. Arizona got a 6th round draft pick to take on Voracek. They got a 5th round pick to take on Shea Weber.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 17 @ 12:28 PM ET
Why should the rules be different for Toronto than for other teams?
- MJL


I believe the leafs are circumventing the rules by routinely having bad contracts stuffed away magically by injuries. We saw it last year with Murray. How did he go from I’m fully healthy in the playoffs to the leafs declaring that he’s really badly hurt and career over. The same happened with lupul and others. All teams should have to adhere to the rules but my point is the leafs routinely seem to find loopholes in order to get around bad contracts.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 12:37 PM ET
I believe the leafs are circumventing the rules by routinely having bad contracts stuffed away magically by injuries. We saw it last year with Murray. How did he go from I’m fully healthy in the playoffs to the leafs declaring that he’s really badly hurt and career over. The same happened with lupul and others. All teams should have to adhere to the rules but my point is the leafs routinely seem to find loopholes in order to get around bad contracts.
- Hextall271


It's not a loophole. A team doesn't just say this player in injured and were putting him on LTIR. A team doctor has to supply medical documentation to the league that there is a legitimate injury. That doctor would be risking his medical license if he was providing false documentation. Think about from the players perspective. If he was not legitimately injure to the point that he couldn't play, would he just sit back and say I guess my career is over because the Leafs say so? Or would the player file a grievance through the NHLPA and fight it? The Leafs aren't doing anything with LTIR that any other team isn't doing.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 17 @ 12:40 PM ET
https://bleacherreport.co...s-rebuilt-underdog-flyers
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 17 @ 12:43 PM ET
It's not a loophole. A team doesn't just say this player in injured and were putting him on LTIR. A team doctor has to supply medical documentation to the league that there is a legitimate injury. That doctor would be risking his medical license if he was providing false documentation. Think about from the players perspective. If he was not legitimately injure to the point that he couldn't play, would he just sit back and say I guess my career is over because the Leafs say so? Or would the player file a grievance through the NHLPA and fight it? The Leafs aren't doing anything with LTIR that any other team isn't doing.
- MJL


As I remember it lupul did challenge the leafs on his career ending ltir designation. Does it not looks suspicious to you that marruay went from I’m all good. Not playing and then modestly. Career over. Can the players challenge a doctors findings? I suspect not. Long reg is yet another bad contract that they have conveniently found a way to stash away.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 17 @ 12:46 PM ET
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10109560-2024-nhl-stadium-series-how-john-tortorellas-tenacity-has-rebuilt-underdog-flyers
- hello it's me 2050
Pretty much bang on. For those that hate Torts on here...have a gander! He has turned what was supposed to be another wasted season of mediocrity into something to enjoy. I hope they stay the course with the rebuild, but Torts is the single biggest reason that they are where they are in the standings (along with having Coots and to a lesser degree Atkinson back).
ForeverFlyer16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lou Nolan for Flyers Hall of Fame , NJ
Joined: 11.03.2006

Feb 17 @ 12:48 PM ET
Have to look at history. Arizona got a 6th round draft pick to take on Voracek. They got a 5th round pick to take on Shea Weber.
- MJL



I believe those deals were at gaining oanother form of compensation... they helped the Yotes gain the lower floor of the mandatory cap range... Arizona took on bargain contracts with cap greater than salary owed, and was financial rather than future selection oriented; getting the low selections were merely icing on the cake. The Yotes example was really not a proper one. If Danny is to gain better selections for taking on bead contracts -- not saying he should, you do understand -- he of course has to go about it in a different manner than Arizona did. You can call me Captain Obvious on that one. 😏
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 17 @ 12:52 PM ET
As I remember it lupul did challenge the leafs on his career ending ltir designation. Does it not looks suspicious to you that marruay went from I’m all good. Not playing and then modestly. Career over. Can the players challenge a doctors findings? I suspect not. Long reg is yet another bad contract that they have conveniently found a way to stash away.
- Hextall271


Do you think that the Leafs and Murray faked his bi-lateral hip surgery that he had on Oct. 9th? Absolutely a player can challenge a doctor's findings.
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