Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Misc. Lounge :: The Beer Thread
Author Message
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Dec 27 @ 1:00 AM ET
Top fermented unfiltered wheat beer. They are pretty yeasty and usually have a pretty distinct banana and clove aroma and/or taste. They are usually pretty carbonated and light in colour too, although Schnieder Weisse is a little more browny orange than the standard lighter yellow/orange.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weissbier

That's even easier. I should've just posted that lol.

- daeth

okay, what does top fermented mean?

(frank). I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON!!
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 27 @ 1:15 AM ET
Lol to be really basic since I only have limited knowledge myself:

Top fermented = ales, porters, stouts, etc

Bottom fermented = lagers, pilsners, etc

Top fermented beers are fermented at a higher temperature and most of the yeast settles at the top. The opposite is true with bottom fermented beers. They use specific strains of yeast for each style, usually. They need specific temperatures to ferment.

Yeast basically converts the carbs in the malted barley (or wheat, or whatever) into alcohol and other junk like carbon dioxide. That's what fermentation is. Each yeast strain does things differently and results in different flavours and all that good stuff.

The unfiltered thing with hefeweizens just basically means it has yeast in the bottle. That's why they are cloudy, and probably why they're so tasty.
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 27 @ 1:18 AM ET
Lol to be really basic since I only have limited knowledge myself:

Top fermented = ales, porters, stouts, etc

Bottom fermented = lagers, pilsners, etc

Top fermented beers are fermented at a higher temperature and most of the yeast settles at the top. The opposite is true with bottom fermented beers. They use specific strains of yeast for each style, usually. They need specific temperatures to ferment.

Yeast basically converts the carbs in the malted barley (or wheat, or whatever) into alcohol and other junk like carbon dioxide. Each yeast strain does things differently and results in different flavours and all that good stuff.

The unfiltered thing with hefeweizens just basically means it has yeast in the bottle. That's why they are cloudy, and probably why they're so tasty.

- daeth

Unfiltered beers can also be aged in bottle like wine(I think)
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 27 @ 1:23 AM ET
Unfiltered beers can also be aged in bottle like wine(I think)
- Schenn-Sational!

Depends on the beer I think. Hefeweizens don't age particularly well as far as I know. Unfiltered Abbey style ales age beautifully though. I've just never had the patience to keep them for more than a year.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Dec 27 @ 2:05 AM ET
Lol to be really basic since I only have limited knowledge myself:

Top fermented = ales, porters, stouts, etc

Bottom fermented = lagers, pilsners, etc

Top fermented beers are fermented at a higher temperature and most of the yeast settles at the top. The opposite is true with bottom fermented beers. They use specific strains of yeast for each style, usually. They need specific temperatures to ferment.

Yeast basically converts the carbs in the malted barley (or wheat, or whatever) into alcohol and other junk like carbon dioxide. That's what fermentation is. Each yeast strain does things differently and results in different flavours and all that good stuff.

The unfiltered thing with hefeweizens just basically means it has yeast in the bottle. That's why they are cloudy, and probably why they're so tasty.

- daeth

ty. but poop, i'll never remember all this.

i think i may be a top fermented kind of guy.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Dec 27 @ 4:22 AM ET
okay, what does top fermented mean?

(frank). I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON!!

- kicksave856

I never understand what these guys are saying, I just know if a beer is good or not.
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Dec 27 @ 8:43 AM ET
Lol to be really basic since I only have limited knowledge myself:

Top fermented = ales, porters, stouts, etc

Bottom fermented = lagers, pilsners, etc

Top fermented beers are fermented at a higher temperature and most of the yeast settles at the top. The opposite is true with bottom fermented beers. They use specific strains of yeast for each style, usually. They need specific temperatures to ferment.

Yeast basically converts the carbs in the malted barley (or wheat, or whatever) into alcohol and other junk like carbon dioxide. That's what fermentation is. Each yeast strain does things differently and results in different flavours and all that good stuff.

The unfiltered thing with hefeweizens just basically means it has yeast in the bottle. That's why they are cloudy, and probably why they're so tasty.

- daeth

Well, porters and stouts ARE ales. Top fermented are ales, bottom fermented are lagers (pilsners are a kind of lager) and there are spontaneous fermented, those are lambics (gueuze, kriek)
(frank), I'm thirsty.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

Dec 27 @ 10:24 AM ET
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 27 @ 10:27 AM ET
Well, porters and stouts ARE ales. Top fermented are ales, bottom fermented are lagers (pilsners are a kind of lager) and there are spontaneous fermented, those are lambics (gueuze, kriek)
(frank), I'm thirsty.

- _nay_

no, no, no, no this is backwards my friend. top yeast fermentations (porters) are pilsner ales only when temperatures exceed celcius levels of hops. then and ONLY THEN do ales and porters become TRUE heffenweissens if properly aged in oak casks. now lagers are a different animal altogether. they need yeast strains that have been infused with air before fermentating - if given enough time to malt the barley grains.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Dec 27 @ 11:10 AM ET
ty. but poop, i'll never remember all this.

i think i may be a top fermented kind of guy.

- kicksave856



_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Dec 27 @ 12:17 PM ET
no, no, no, no this is backwards my friend. top yeast fermentations (porters) are pilsner ales only when temperatures exceed celcius levels of hops. then and ONLY THEN do ales and porters become TRUE heffenweissens if properly aged in oak casks. now lagers are a different animal altogether. they need yeast strains that have been infused with air before fermentating - if given enough time to malt the barley grains.
- Crimsoninja

I'm pretty sure you're wrong. The pilsner (pilsner urquell) is the "original" lager, brewed in the city of Pilsen. It's the first bottom fermented beer. Wasn't talking about heffenweissens.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Dec 27 @ 12:20 PM ET
I'm pretty sure you're wrong. The pilsner (pilsner urquell) is the "original" lager, brewed in the city of Pilsen. It's the first bottom fermented beer. Wasn't talking about heffenweissens.
- _nay_

i was just typing random beer words
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Dec 27 @ 12:46 PM ET
i was just typing random beer words
- Crimsoninja

_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Dec 27 @ 12:55 PM ET
i was just typing random beer words
- Crimsoninja


Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 27 @ 5:01 PM ET
I'm pretty sure you're wrong. The pilsner (pilsner urquell) is the "original" lager, brewed in the city of Pilsen. It's the first bottom fermented beer. Wasn't talking about heffenweissens.
- _nay_

Pretty sure Pilsner is a type of lager, made with hops that only grow in that region... But not the original.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Dec 27 @ 6:22 PM ET
i was just typing random beer words
- Crimsoninja



i was waiting to see if you got a response
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Dec 27 @ 8:44 PM ET
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Dec 27 @ 8:45 PM ET
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Dec 27 @ 8:47 PM ET
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 28 @ 1:39 AM ET


schlafly winter esb. delicious. picked up a sixer from total wine for like 8 bucks or so.

ESBs are my fave style right now. anyone got any recos besides fuller's (which is absolutely excellent) or lefthand?
Schenn-Sational!
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sorry you don't understand...Y
Joined: 10.08.2008

Dec 28 @ 5:20 AM ET

- watsonnostaw

(frank)ing love that poop
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 28 @ 6:13 AM ET


schlafly winter esb. delicious. picked up a sixer from total wine for like 8 bucks or so.

ESBs are my fave style right now. anyone got any recos besides fuller's (which is absolutely excellent) or lefthand?

- OrangeBlack27

Propeller ESB from Nova Scotia, Charlevoix ESB from Quebec, Central City Red Racer ESB from BC, Wychwood Hobgoblin, Wells Bombardier, Fullers London Pride, Duchy Organic Ale, Young's London Ale, Lancaster Bomber (maybe too low of an ABV to be an ESB but it's heavy on the malt like an ESB), Shepherd Neame Bishops Finger, umm I'm having a hard time thinking of more.

A lot of those I've only had once so I can't really say for sure if they are really that amazing. I don't remember. The only ones I can get at the LCBO consistently now are Propeller ESB, Wells Bombardier, London Pride, Duchy Organic, Lancaster Bomber, and Hobgoblin. The rest I only see at pubs and because of price and my need to always try new beers I rarely buy more than once.
Hop Head
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.08.2008

Dec 28 @ 7:46 AM ET


schlafly winter esb. delicious. picked up a sixer from total wine for like 8 bucks or so.

ESBs are my fave style right now. anyone got any recos besides fuller's (which is absolutely excellent) or lefthand?

- OrangeBlack27


I had a bottle of their pumpkin ale a few months back at a friends house. It was excellent! One of the best i've had. Haven't seen much of their brews on the shelves at my usual beer stores.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Dec 28 @ 9:44 AM ET

schlafly winter esb. delicious. picked up a sixer from total wine for like 8 bucks or so.

ESBs are my fave style right now. anyone got any recos besides fuller's (which is absolutely excellent) or lefthand?

- OrangeBlack27



i've heard people talk up the rogue's, and also goose island makes an esb.
goose island stuff all used to be amazing but they got bought by bud or coors or somebody and i think their quality really suffered when they started mass producing. people have been swearing to me that the quality has come back up since then so it's worth a try probs
EricNearBuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Frig off, Ricky!, NY
Joined: 09.04.2011

Dec 28 @ 9:43 PM ET


this beer is freaking ridiculous.

it's got tons of chocolate flavor all through it, but none of the crazy sweetness i thought it would have. nice chocolate malt flavor, a decent bit of hops are present (chinook and willamette). there's a touch of sweetness, though. this is definitely a dessert beer.

will absolutely this buy again.
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131, 132, 133, 134, 135, 136, 137, 138, 139, 140, 141, 142, 143, 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162, 163, 164, 165, 166, 167, 168, 169, 170, 171, 172, 173, 174, 175, 176, 177, 178, 179, 180, 181, 182, 183, 184, 185, 186, 187, 188, 189, 190, 191, 192, 193, 194, 195, 196, 197, 198, 199, 200, 201, 202, 203, 204, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209, 210, 211, 212, 213, 214, 215, 216, 217, 218, 219, 220, 221, 222, 223, 224, 225, 226, 227, 228, 229, 230, 231, 232, 233, 234, 235, 236, 237, 238, 239, 240, 241, 242, 243, 244, 245, 246, 247, 248, 249, 250, 251, 252, 253, 254, 255, 256, 257, 258, 259, 260, 261, 262, 263, 264, 265, 266, 267, 268, 269, 270, 271, 272, 273, 274, 275, 276, 277, 278, 279, 280, 281, 282, 283, 284, 285, 286, 287, 288, 289, 290, 291, 292, 293, 294, 295, 296, 297, 298, 299, 300, 301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308, 309, 310, 311, 312, 313, 314, 315, 316, 317, 318, 319, 320, 321, 322, 323, 324, 325, 326, 327, 328, 329, 330, 331, 332, 333, 334, 335, 336, 337, 338, 339, 340, 341, 342, 343, 344, 345, 346, 347, 348, 349, 350, 351, 352, 353, 354, 355, 356, 357, 358, 359, 360, 361, 362, 363, 364, 365, 366, 367, 368, 369, 370, 371, 372, 373, 374, 375, 376, 377, 378, 379, 380, 381, 382, 383, 384, 385, 386, 387, 388, 389, 390, 391, 392, 393, 394, 395, 396, 397, 398, 399, 400, 401, 402, 403, 404, 405, 406, 407, 408, 409, 410, 411, 412, 413, 414, 415, 416, 417, 418, 419, 420, 421, 422, 423, 424, 425, 426, 427, 428, 429, 430, 431, 432, 433, 434, 435, 436, 437, 438, 439, 440, 441, 442, 443, 444, 445, 446, 447, 448, 449, 450, 451, 452, 453, 454, 455, 456, 457, 458, 459, 460, 461, 462, 463, 464, 465, 466, 467, 468, 469, 470, 471, 472, 473, 474, 475, 476, 477, 478, 479, 480, 481, 482, 483, 484, 485, 486, 487, 488, 489, 490, 491, 492, 493, 494, 495, 496, 497, 498, 499, 500, 501, 502, 503, 504, 505, 506, 507, 508, 509, 510, 511, 512, 513, 514, 515, 516, 517, 518, 519, 520, 521, 522, 523, 524, 525, 526, 527, 528, 529, 530, 531, 532, 533, 534, 535, 536, 537, 538, 539, 540, 541, 542, 543, 544  Next