Not impressed with the Senators lack of urgency in last night's game. When you have the best team (regular season) down 3 games to zero, you put them out ASAP.
- Doppleganger

Kinda like I felt after games two and three, now back to Buffalo and we'll see, still a steep climb.

Kinda like I felt after games two and three, now back to Buffalo and we'll see, still a steep climb.
- emtae

Still like Ottawa's odds. Only two teams inthe history have come back to win a seven game series, after falling behind by three games.

Still like Ottawa's odds. Only two teams inthe history have come back to win a seven game series, after falling behind by three games.


- Doppleganger

Now I'm betting that guy can put away some beer!!

I was kind of referring to the Czech beer being crap, my borther, grandpa, uncle, and cousin would kick my ass if I didnt like AB

Cecil Whitakkers > Imo's
- Docwhiskey

Obviously, you, your borther, grandpa, uncle and cousin have no idea what good beer is. That's ok, you can drink all the A-B swill you want. That only leaves the good beer for me.

Beechwood aged, gotta love it!!!

Still like Ottawa's odds. Only two teams inthe history have come back to win a seven game series, after falling behind by three games.


- Doppleganger

That's only in hockey, if you add in baseball and basketball there's probably a dozen

That's only in hockey, if you add in baseball and basketball there's probably a dozen
- emtae

Even so, I still like Ottawa's Odds. I do not think anyone was calling for a 4 or 5 game series length. Most people were seeing a 6 or 7 game series.

Buffalo has to win all of the next three, and Ottawa one. Miller almost stole two games in Ottawa, and I do not think he can steal three more in the series. If he does, then it will be the greatest goaltending display in NHL history. That is still a thin hope to build a series win on.

Even so, I still like Ottawa's Odds. I do not think anyone was calling for a 4 or 5 game series length. Most people were seeing a 6 or 7 game series.

Buffalo has to win all of the next three, and Ottawa one. Miller almost stole two games in Ottawa, and I do not think he can steal three more in the series. If he does, then it will be the greatest goaltending display in NHL history. That is still a thin hope to build a series win on.
- Doppleganger

Riddle me this: Prior to the start of the series people were saying Buffalo might have a slight edge in goaltending, some in your camp thought Emery was better because of stats. If the goalies were reversed in this series, do you think this would be going to five? Going into last night Emery's stats in the series were better yet you can't believe he has been the best goalie. I also was at a series in 1975 when the Sabres were far better that the Flyers except for one player: Bernie Parent he stole the series, it can happen! That being said I know it's a long shot and really think Ottawa closes in 6.

Riddle me this: Prior to the start of the series people were saying Buffalo might have a slight edge in goaltending, some in your camp thought Emery was better because of stats. If the goalies were reversed in this series, do you think this would be going to five? Going into last night Emery's stats in the series were better yet you can't believe he has been the best goalie. I also was at a series in 1975 when the Sabres were far better that the Flyers except for one player: Bernie Parent he stole the series, it can happen! That being said I know it's a long shot and really think Ottawa closes in 6.
- emtae

If you take into account shots allowed per game, and the blocked shots, then if Miller was playing for the Sens, the series would be over.

If Hasek had not gone to the Olympics last year, Ottawa might have gone all the way last year.

Miller almost stole game 3, he did steal game 4, and to win he would have to steal three more games. I don't know the odds on an goaltender turning in a performance like this, for five games in a row, are, so I agree it is a really long shot.

If you take into account shots allowed per game, and the blocked shots, then if Miller was playing for the Sens, the series would be over.

If Hasek had not gone to the Olympics last year, Ottawa might have gone all the way last year.

Miller almost stole game 3, he did steal game 4, and to win he would have to steal three more games. I don't know the odds on an goaltender turning in a performance like this, for five games in a row, are, so I agree it is a really long shot.
- Doppleganger

What a lot of people don't realize about Miller is that he has been making great saves in almost every game all year, when you look at stats he seems middle of the pack, but the sabres have had a knack of leaving him out to dry several times a game in every game, it's hard to put a stat on big saves then once a game he has a brain fart and there goes the shut out.

That's only in hockey, if you add in baseball and basketball there's probably a dozen
- emtae

Actually I out of baseball and basketball, only the Red Sox did it back in '04.

So only 3 pro teams have ever done it in history, 2 NHL, 1 MLB.

I think...

Anyone who served in NATO and was stationed in any of the Bases Near Hemer, Werl or Soest..........will be familiar with this local beer.

Actually I out of baseball and basketball, only the Red Sox did it back in '04.

So only 3 pro teams have ever done it in history, 2 NHL, 1 MLB.

I think...
- eastonhockey

I checked all my sources and you may be right.

Obviously, you, your borther, grandpa, uncle and cousin have no idea what good beer is. That's ok, you can drink all the A-B swill you want. That only leaves the good beer for me.

Beechwood aged, gotta love it!!!
- dorneydude

Yeah you're right the company that controls ~50% of the domestic market and ~30% of the world market doesn't know what they're doing. Remember, just because the beer costs more and has a nasty aftertaste, it doesn't necessarily make it a good beer.

Yeah you're right the company that controls ~50% of the domestic market and ~30% of the world market doesn't know what they're doing. Remember, just because the beer costs more and has a nasty aftertaste, it doesn't necessarily make it a good beer.
- Docwhiskey

So, because they control that percentage, it means that it's better tasting beer??? Seriously, what color is the sky in your world??? GM, Ford, Honda and Toyota control a lot of the market as well but are you trying to tell me you would rather drive a Focus than a Ferrarri??? A-B controls the market because they have the money to invest in those funny little commercials we see all the time. Commercials which rarely describe anything on how the beer tastes. They have a massive distribution market and enough breweries to mass produce and supply their crap to virtually anywhere. And what is wrong with aftertaste? Beer is SUPPOSED to have an aftertaste. If it didn't, it would be called water. Ask anyone who knows anything about beer and they will tell you that a determining factor in judging beer is aftertaste. Get a clue, my friend.

So, because they control that percentage, it means that it's better tasting beer??? Seriously, what color is the sky in your world??? GM, Ford, Honda and Toyota control a lot of the market as well but are you trying to tell me you would rather drive a Focus than a Ferrarri??? A-B controls the market because they have the money to invest in those funny little commercials we see all the time. Commercials which rarely describe anything on how the beer tastes. They have a massive distribution market and enough breweries to mass produce and supply their crap to virtually anywhere. And what is wrong with aftertaste? Beer is SUPPOSED to have an aftertaste. If it didn't, it would be called water. Ask anyone who knows anything about beer and they will tell you that a determining factor in judging beer is aftertaste. Get a clue, my friend.
- dorneydude

Hmm seems like I pushed a button.

I am merely pointing out that if they have that large of a share they must be doing something right. If it were just about cost of the product (which I am guessing that is whaat you were getting at talking about distribution) than keystone light would be outselling everyone. They distribute a lot and control a large portion of the market because people..gasp...like it.

Your car point is not applilcable because the price difference is too much in those cases (a few dollars for beer vs. 10s of thousands of dollars for the cars)

There is nothing wrong with aftertaste, I am merely against the nasty aftertaste most microbrews seem to have.


I also would like to point out that I haven't said anything negative about the other prodcuts, just merely stating my preference. You on the other hand seem to have something against AB, why all the anger?

I have a clue do you?

Hmm seems like I pushed a button.

I am merely pointing out that if they have that large of a share they must be doing something right. If it were just about cost of the product (which I am guessing that is whaat you were getting at talking about distribution) than keystone light would be outselling everyone. They distribute a lot and control a large portion of the market because people..gasp...like it.

Your car point is not applilcable because the price difference is too much in those cases (a few dollars for beer vs. 10s of thousands of dollars for the cars)

There is nothing wrong with aftertaste, I am merely against the nasty aftertaste most microbrews seem to have.


I also would like to point out that I haven't said anything negative about the other prodcuts, just merely stating my preference. You on the other hand seem to have something against AB, why all the anger?

I have a clue do you?
- Docwhiskey

When I say distribution, I mean A-B has the means of getting their product (I find it hard to actually call it beer) everywhere in the country. Breweries like Stone, Russian River and Weyerbacher can't do that. Naturally, if every beer/liquor store in the country carries A-B's products, they are going to control more of the market. All that means is that they have the budget to do so. Most people like Budweiser because that's all they had and that's what they are used to. They've never experienced a micro before and automatically pass it off as crap since it doesn't taste like Budweiser. The American (and some Canadian) public like drinking beer flavored water because they see that silly little commercial with the crabs bowing to the cooler of Bud on the beach. My argument is just because a company has the marketshare, doesn't mean the product they deliver is the best. It means they have benefitted the most from their resources. A-B beers are lousy (and Miller is really starting to take a bite out of their marketshare too) but they are readily available and at the right price. So please, by all means, continue to drink your Beechwood aged, zero aftertaste Budweiser. I have no problem spending a little extra for good beer.

stuff about AB.
- dorneydude

Actually while ABs market share has decreased (in 2006, they areactually up first quarter 2007), Miller's has not increased. They are losing business to the wine and spirit side of things, not other breweries. My point was just because it is readily available doesn't automatically mean that is the reason people buy it, people must also like it. As far as the tasting other beers, I have had plenty of others (I did beer tours at Resteraunts such as Old Chicago (110 beers) and Growlers (125, Im still working on it) that boast a ton of microbrews and imports and have yet to find much that I liked better than Bud Ice (my first post points those out I did enjoy, but there are a few others here and there)

Actually while ABs market share has decreased (in 2006, they areactually up first quarter 2007), Miller's has not increased. They are losing business to the wine and spirit side of things, not other breweries. My point was just because it is readily available doesn't automatically mean that is the reason people buy it, people must also like it. As far as the tasting other beers, I have had plenty of others (I did beer tours at Resteraunts such as Old Chicago (110 beers) and Growlers (125, Im still working on it) that boast a ton of microbrews and imports and have yet to find much that I liked better than Bud Ice (my first post points those out I did enjoy, but there are a few others here and there)
- Docwhiskey

Don't take anything on this thread too seriously, it was started to break up all the "serious" talk. Everybody has their favorites, I drink a lot of Molson Canadian and as my Canadian friends have pointed out it's the Budweiser of Canada. I like all different types of beers as do most people on here. I still hate your pizza though!

Even so, I still like Ottawa's Odds. I do not think anyone was calling for a 4 or 5 game series length. Most people were seeing a 6 or 7 game series.

Buffalo has to win all of the next three, and Ottawa one. Miller almost stole two games in Ottawa, and I do not think he can steal three more in the series. If he does, then it will be the greatest goaltending display in NHL history. That is still a thin hope to build a series win on.
- Doppleganger

Miller doesn't have to steal the next three if his team finally shows up like they did at times last night. The optimistic viewpoint is to say that last night finally "woke up" the Sabres and now they'll play, letting Miller not forcing himself to be Superman.

But still, Sabres will need something great to come back. But if any team can do it this day in age, I guess it would be them.

Btw, I took your advice and drank 1 beer for each period last night!

Trader Joe's Hofbrau Brock



Nothing to brag about, but a good, crisp beer - and extremely economically sound!

Yeah you're right the company that controls ~50% of the domestic market and ~30% of the world market doesn't know what they're doing. Remember, just because the beer costs more and has a nasty aftertaste, it doesn't necessarily make it a good beer.
- Docwhiskey

McDonalds has the burger market covered - their burgers suck.

Btw, I took your advice and drank 1 beer for each period last night!
- Rayzablades

Damn reverse Beer Karma

That's only in hockey, if you add in baseball and basketball there's probably a dozen
- emtae

Actually apparently there are only 3 teams in all of professional sports - the Leafs, Islanders, and Red Sox who have come from 3 games back to win a 7 game series.

500 posts on the Beer Thread, take one down and pass it around.........

500 posts on the Beer Thread, take one down and pass it around.........
- Doppleganger

Hmmm ... so many beers ... so little time ...

Hmmm ... so many beers ... so little time ...
- Garfield512

If ever anyone warranted the title of "Dann the Man" it's this guy:

http://beer.wstuph.org/

My f'n hero. Hooray Beer!