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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 3:45 PM ET
The LTIR loophole that enables a team to put a player on LTIR to get around cap restrictions, and then add that same player to the roster in the playoffs when there is no cap.
- jd250


That's not a loophole but that is an area where the league has to crack down on. A player needs to be activated as soon as he is healthy enough to play.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 21 @ 3:49 PM ET
Vancouver's GA/GP in 22/23 was 3.61. This season it is 2.71, almost a goal a game better.
- MJL


Watching them last season they were arguably more of a mess than the Flyers. And it took Tocch less than half a season to "fix"?


roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 21 @ 3:51 PM ET
That's right, I thought Torts has the hands down best coach last year also, I totally stand by this remark.
- jd250

You shouldn’t stand by this
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Feb 21 @ 3:57 PM ET
A player on waivers is still on the roster unless claimed or assigned to the AHL after clearing.
- bmeltzer


Well S.O.B. Ya learn something new every day.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 21 @ 4:03 PM ET
LOL, you have a bad recollection. What I said is that he was not a lock for the award, as numerous posters have stated. I have stated numerous times that if the Flyers make the playoffs, he'll get consideration, but he is not a lock for that either. Due to there being numerous other potential worthy coaches.
- MJL

JD is insane for believing Torts deserved to win coach of the year last season and even more insane to stand by this statement seeing how it wasn’t true or close to happening. On the other hand, you’ve pretty much said Torts is a bad coach since day one and the Flyers need to get all the young players away from him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 4:20 PM ET
Well S.O.B. Ya learn something new every day.
- Chunk


Waivers and demoting a player are two separate roster transactions. If a player is waived and clears, he can stay with the NHL team and the waivers are good for 30 days and or 10 games played.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Feb 21 @ 4:27 PM ET
that is a putrid hawks lineup. No Connor Murphy?

hakws +160 tonight

- hello it's me 2050

Murphy has been on IR for about a month.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 21 @ 4:34 PM ET
Waivers and demoting a player are two separate roster transactions. If a player is waived and clears, he can stay with the NHL team and the waivers are good for 30 days and or 10 games played.
- MJL

Care to share any of your opinions Cliff? Or is criticizing what you”ll be doing today?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 4:42 PM ET
Care to share any of your opinions Cliff? Or is criticizing what you”ll be doing today?
- ClaudeFather


Sure, I'll share an opinion Dodo! You've become a troll!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 21 @ 4:44 PM ET
Sure, I'll share an opinion Dodo! You've become a troll!
- MJL

And you’ve always been one 😂 get off your high horse
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 4:49 PM ET
And you’ve always been one 😂 get off your high horse
- ClaudeFather


Nah, just a guy talking hockey. I'm available every day. Take your best shot at knocking me off my high horse. Good luck!
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 21 @ 4:54 PM ET
Nah, just a guy talking hockey. I'm available every day. Take your best shot at knocking me off my high horse. Good luck!

- MJL

The delusion, haha. Cliff 24/7, enjoy your night feverishly responding to JD
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 5:04 PM ET
The delusion, haha. Cliff 24/7, enjoy your night feverishly responding to JD
- ClaudeFather


Proving that your nothing but a troll. You have an opportunity and a forum to prove that I'm delusional. I challenge you to do so.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 21 @ 5:35 PM ET
Proving that your nothing but a troll. You have an opportunity and a forum to prove that I'm delusional. I challenge you to do so.
- MJL

kid gloves are off. pure entertainment.

I love you cliff.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 21 @ 5:48 PM ET
LOL, you have a bad recollection. What I said is that he was not a lock for the award, as numerous posters have stated. I have stated numerous times that if the Flyers make the playoffs, he'll get consideration, but he is not a lock for that either. Due to there being numerous other potential worthy coaches.
- MJL
Talking out both sides of your mouth again? In an earlier comment you said that no one doubts that Torts will be among the top 3 nominees if the Flyers make the playoffs. And now your latest comment suggests that he is not a lock to get consideration if the Flyers make the playoffs? Pepperidge Farm remembers!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 5:51 PM ET
Talking out both sides of your mouth again? In an earlier comment you said that no one doubts that Torts will be among the top 3 nominees if the Flyers make the playoffs. And now your latest comment suggests that he is not a lock to get consideration if the Flyers make the playoffs? Pepperidge Farm remembers!

- Phillywhiteout


You're not following along well. The comments I'm referring to there were made months ago in previous conversations. As others have claimed that I have made statements that I haven't. Things are becoming more clarified now. Try and follow along.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 21 @ 5:59 PM ET
Coaches get too much credit when their teams play well, and too much blame when their teams play poorly.

In Vancouver's case, I think it was just a matter of the team finally playing up to its level of talent and some key youngsters taking the next steps. Maybe Tocchet was able to facilitate that growth or maybe he's just arrived at the right place, right time. He certainly wasn't very good in Arizona.

- Tomahawk
I'm gonna go with right place at the right time here. I really don't think Tocchet is that good of coach. The right situation fell into his lap. I was dreading the fact that I thought the Flyers were gonna hire him as coach before they hired Torts.
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Feb 21 @ 6:05 PM ET
So a bit of a test for Vancouver here...they have lost 3 straight..sitting at 70 points in 58 games played.

Edmonton, as bad as their first 30 games were, are sitting at 57 points in 52 games. 13 points back, with 6 games in hand.
Edmonton could almost catch Vancouver if they continue to play the way they have since their coaching change.

A test for Tocchett for sure.

How does this tie to Philly? Edmontons coach is Kris Knoblauch, who was an assistant here when Fletcher was in charge. He replaced Mullen as PP coach, but then Fletcher didn't resign him because for whatever reason he might of had. This was a huge failure, as Knoblauch was deemed an up and coming coach when he was hired here. Can't help but think he would have worked well with the current group.

If Edmonton can pull this off, and catch Vancouver..Knoblauch would have to be considered for the Jack Adams, no? From out of the playoffs by a long shot at Thanksgiven, to having a shot at first...would be incredible.

I also don't think Edmonton is looking for a goalie anymore, as Skinner is now 25-12-1, 2.69GAA, .910 SP.

- TheFreak
The Oil were favorites of many pundits to come out of the west at the beginning of the season, so I doubt this guy would get much consideration for the Jack Adams.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 21 @ 6:07 PM ET
The Oil were favorites of many pundits to come out of the west at the beginning of the season, so I doubt this guy would get much consideration for the Jack Adams.
- Phillywhiteout


I don't know why some think being a favorite coming into the season matters. It doesn't. Knoblauch took on a team that was floundering and turned them around. They went on a 16 game win streak. He's going to get some votes.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Feb 21 @ 6:15 PM ET
kid gloves are off. pure entertainment.

I love you cliff.

- hello it's me 2050

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 21 @ 6:24 PM ET
Would you be surprised if they got the #1 overall?...Bedard needs a running mate don't you know.

Getting Celebrini would be nuts...

https://www.tsn.ca/video/...ranchise-player%7E2869966

- TheFreak

(frank) the hawks if they pull that poop
GPerogie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hightstown, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2010

Feb 21 @ 6:35 PM ET
Talking out both sides of your mouth again? In an earlier comment you said that no one doubts that Torts will be among the top 3 nominees if the Flyers make the playoffs. And now your latest comment suggests that he is not a lock to get consideration if the Flyers make the playoffs? Pepperidge Farm remembers!

- Phillywhiteout[/quot



Have we ever had a more polarizing coach? End of the day the players are playing good hockey. Overachieving which has been years since we could say that. Torts can’t take all the credit but he surely deserves some. He might have some old school tactics but I do t think anyone really thought this team would be here and to do this with some great contributions but not a single player at a point a game average just amazing me.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 21 @ 7:00 PM ET
(frank) the hawks if they pull that poop
- 2Real


I fully expect this to happen.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Feb 21 @ 7:20 PM ET
Freakin' TnT

Wow they really want the NHL to become the NFL with the gambling
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Feb 21 @ 7:37 PM ET
Captain Coots getting the guys fired up. Ha ha
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