Let me start by saying I'm not sure how you sleep at night (in fact I'm not sure you do sleep since you seem to be on this forum 24/7) when writing statements such as this. This is the complete opposite of what you do, and I have exposed you many, many times already. You need to get a grip!

Cutter Gauthier was NEVER touted to be an elite player in this league, and the poster rightly points out many considered the Flyers pick a reach, including several on this forum (including me) that thought the Flyers should have picked Jiracek. I told you time and time again Gauthier was not a center and it was a mistake for the Flyers to push him in that direction. Now it comes out after the trade that Briere and his staff saw him as a winger. It's interesting to me that you have never mentioned this fact. You are quick to bury Briere and say he effed up because he didn't sign Gauthier right out of college, but what if Gauthier's camp got upset because Fletcher pushed the kid to play center while Briere saw him as a winger? Wouldn't that change in direction be a cause of concern? The lame excuse about the cap space is YOUR excuse. No one from Briere, to those associated with the Flyers, any hockey writer, or Gauthier's camp has come out and stated the reason Briere didn't sign Gauthier as soon as the BC season ended was because they wanted to save a year of ELC. I have offered a different possibility and you greeted that idea with your usual "intelligent and informed" debate style, by calling my several names.

And with your last statement, this again shows you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about hockey or how to build a team. What state are the Flyers in that they will ever have to kiss the butt of a 18 year old?? Hmmm .. the last I checked the Flyers are going to make the playoffs this year, in only the 2nd year of that old, archaic coach you berate on here all the time.

But hey, don't let the facts deter you from your intelligent and informed opinion. What a joke you are.
- jd250

I did actually read there was an issue with bonuses, and Briere and crew didn't want to dip in any further.

Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman reported that on Tuesday that the issue stemmed from the Flyers not signing Gauthier to a contract last year. Supposedly, the team did not want a bonus overage carrying into the 2023-24 season, and that was enough to upset Gauthier ads his camp.

Word is Philly didn’t want a bonus overage carrying into this season, so they didn’t want to sign Gauthier at the end of last year. They certainly didn’t intend it as any kind of an insult, but things were never the same after this happened.

— Elliotte Friedman (@FriedgeHNIC) January 9, 2024

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nhl/news/flyers-ducks-trade-cutter-gauthier-jamie-drysdale/5f447ec65424de1aabec7181#:~:text=Sportsnet's%20Elliotte%20Friedman%20reported%20that,upset%20Gauthier%20ads%20his%20camp.

How are we, gentlemen?

Just enjoyed a tasty porterhouse, I have a Rusty Nail in front of me, a nice playlist coming up on the obnoxiously expensive jukebox, and nobody attractive or interesting to talk to, so I’m checking in with you knuckleheads. It’s a bit early yet. Maybe a game of pool to go with the music.

Looks par for the course around here, so far.
- Hesh_

Sounds like a good start to the day! The arguments...I mean discussions should be starting soon on here. What kind of tunes on the jukebox?

Exactly, I get to watch him play a lot, and he is far from elite. As I have stated, he is not even the best player on his BC team. I got to see real elite players in college, players like Jack Eichel who were far and away the best players on the ice as a freshman each and every game, and after one season he was playing in the NHL. This kid is a good player, but he is not close to the impact player Jack Eichel was or is, not as a freshman, and not even as a sophomore. In Anaheim CG will get to play with some really good players and even an elite center in Leo Carlsson. He will probably do very well, but let's not make this kid out as more than he is. And let's also give Drysdale a chance to show what he can do because with his skill and Shaw's coaching, I think he is going to become a very, very good player for the Flyers.
- jd250

You watched Jay O'Brien play a lot and said he had the goods. That he was going to be an NHL player. You keep making statements like that, that you watch so and so play a lot. That is meaningless. Mainly because you have no clue of what you're looking at. The only reason you're making these statements is because he is no longer Flyers property, like a spurned little girl. If he was, you'd be hyping him up to no end. Just as you did with Jay O'Brien. With Ristolainen, with every move that Fletcher made, and on and on. You have no credibility. You showed up again first thing again early and within 3 posts, made a complete fool of yourself again. A daily occurrence. You are a special talent jd.

I did actually read there was an issue with bonuses, and Briere and crew didn't want to dip in any further.

Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman reported that on Tuesday that the issue stemmed from the Flyers not signing Gauthier to a contract last year. Supposedly, the team did not want a bonus overage carrying into the 2023-24 season, and that was enough to upset Gauthier ads his camp.

Word is Philly didn’t want a bonus overage carrying into this season, so they didn’t want to sign Gauthier at the end of last year. They certainly didn’t intend it as any kind of an insult, but things were never the same after this happened.

— Elliotte Friedman (@FriedgeHNIC) January 9, 2024

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nhl/news/flyers-ducks-trade-cutter-gauthier-jamie-drysdale/5f447ec65424de1aabec7181#:~:text=Sportsnet's%20Elliotte%20Friedman%20reported%20that,upset%20Gauthier%20ads%20his%20camp.
- TheFreak

You mean jd is uninformed? No way! This was well reported at the time.

7:29 am to 6:30. Do you reply from the toilet? How about a wife or girlfriend, do you find the time to take care of them. Wink wink.
- Angus4444

2 pumps and a dump

Sounds like a good start to the day! The arguments...I mean discussions should be starting soon on here. What kind of tunes on the jukebox?
- Don Nachbaur

lol..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLTchCiC0T0

Exactly, I get to watch him play a lot, and he is far from elite. As I have stated, he is not even the best player on his BC team. I got to see real elite players in college, players like Jack Eichel who were far and away the best players on the ice as a freshman each and every game, and after one season he was playing in the NHL. This kid is a good player, but he is not close to the impact player Jack Eichel was or is, not as a freshman, and not even as a sophomore. In Anaheim CG will get to play with some really good players and even an elite center in Leo Carlsson. He will probably do very well, but let's not make this kid out as more than he is. And let's also give Drysdale a chance to show what he can do because with his skill and Shaw's coaching, I think he is going to become a very, very good player for the Flyers.
- jd250

you are that weird guy at the rink everyone one knows and mocks.

You watched Jay O'Brien play a lot and said he had the goods. That he was going to be an NHL player. You keep making statements like that, that you watch so and so play a lot. That is meaningless. Mainly because you have no clue of what you're looking at. The only reason you're making these statements is because he is no longer Flyers property, like a spurned little girl. If he was, you'd be hyping him up to no end. Just as you did with Jay O'Brien. With Ristolainen, with every move that Fletcher made, and on and on. You have no credibility.
- MJL

Not really understanding this comparison. JOB is like a spurned little girl? Or JD? What’s a spurned little girl like anyway?

I did actually read there was an issue with bonuses, and Briere and crew didn't want to dip in any further.

Sportsnet's Elliotte Friedman reported that on Tuesday that the issue stemmed from the Flyers not signing Gauthier to a contract last year. Supposedly, the team did not want a bonus overage carrying into the 2023-24 season, and that was enough to upset Gauthier ads his camp.

Word is Philly didn’t want a bonus overage carrying into this season, so they didn’t want to sign Gauthier at the end of last year. They certainly didn’t intend it as any kind of an insult, but things were never the same after this happened.

— Elliotte Friedman (@FriedgeHNIC) January 9, 2024

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nhl/news/flyers-ducks-trade-cutter-gauthier-jamie-drysdale/5f447ec65424de1aabec7181#:~:text=Sportsnet's%20Elliotte%20Friedman%20reported%20that,upset%20Gauthier%20ads%20his%20camp.
- TheFreak

Why are the Flyers worried about bonus overages? Oh yeah, because they overpay and over term freakin anyone they can get their hands on. They are like the grandparents of the NHL - they can't say no

All the talk about, yall are at fault.


Tk left practice after taking hit from Staal, looks like he tweaked something.
- wcorvette

That right there is irony and so Flyers. They sign some aging caveman that has not right being on a rebuilding team (or even in the NHL) and he winds up hurting their meal ticket

Why are the Flyers worried about bonus overages? Oh yeah, because they overpay and over term freakin anyone they can get their hands on. They are like the grandparents of the NHL - they can't say no
- mr4tno

In reality, we lost Gauthier over money and that is a pretty sad statement. I was only throwing the article out there due to comments of it just being one person saying it and nobody has reported it had to do with Money. I had said back in January it had to do with the signing bonuses, and Briere not wanting to add to that. I think JD mistook MJL and I on who said it was cap related. I was just backing up the statement with a legit resource for NHL related news. Elliott Friedman is hardly a nobody in the world of hockey information.

I'll start with I don't counterpoint and dig in with insurmountable stubbornness. What I do is make an intelligent and informed opinion and debate with dedication. I'll start with this, draft ratings are subjective. You'll notice that the term I used was potential elite. Players don't always meet their potential and sometimes potential is misjudged. Making the draft subjective. There are sources who label him as a potential elite player. Now that is dealt with.

This idea that the Flyers were in the infant stages of the rebuild, doesn't hold water. When you have a lack of potential elite player prospects and you have a player you used a top 5 pick on. If he wants to start his NHL career and burn off a year of his ELC early, you give that to him. It was foolish not to. The Flyers don't seem to have any issue blowing tons of cap space on players who aren't worth it, too many to name. Were now supposed to buy that lame excuse? LOL

Yes, with the position the Flyers are in, they absolutely should've been kissing his ass! With a full lip press on! LOL.

I'll await your response with baited breath.

- MJL

This is it in a nutshell. No need to explain any further. We are going to spend that bonus overage on extensions to two very average defensemen. Also, Jones did not know Gauthier was elite because he wouldn't know elite if it bit him in the ass

This is it in a nutshell. No need to explain any further. We are going to spend that bonus overage on extensions to two very average defensemen. Also, Jones did not know Gauthier was elite because he wouldn't know elite if it bit him in the ass
- mr4tno

no matter how anyone tries to slice it it is a bad mark on the flyers for letting him get away. In my opinion anyway.

Cant wait to see what rizzo decides to do.

So the NHL gets their games put on ABC/ESPN during the weekend days while the shytestain NBA gets their games in prime time. WTF!! This is an abomination of epic proportions!!!

So the NHL gets their games put on ABC/ESPN during the weekend days while the shytestain NBA gets their games in prime time. WTF!! This is an abomination of epic proportions!!!
- Phillywhiteout

The NBA has much higher TV ratings than the NHL. Pretty simple.

A young player on Arizona, Ruzicka I think his name is, has been placed on unconditional waivers for contract termination. He posted a video on social media showing him with lines of cocaine and a credit card. You do something that stupid, you seriously have a problem.

new blob

The NBA has much higher TV ratings than the NHL. Pretty simple.
- MJL

Who cares!! Their regular season ratings aren't that much better than the NHL and you need to promote the sport that you just contracted with most recently. The NBA is what it is...a watered down mess! This is why the NHL should have stayed with NBC.

Who cares!! Their regular season ratings aren't that much better than the NHL and you need to promote the sport that you just contracted with most recently. The NBA is what it is...a watered down mess! This is why the NHL should have stayed with NBC.
- Phillywhiteout

They are much better, significantly better! Who cares ESPN does! LOL. You think the NBA is a watered down mess. That's what "who cares" should be applied to. LOL.

They are much better, significantly better! Who cares ESPN does! LOL. You think the NBA is a watered down mess. That's what "who cares" should be applied to. LOL.
- MJL

The NBA sucks! No one cares outside of die hard basketball heads. Bunch pf spoiled prima donnas making way too much money and sit out a game when they have the sniffles. Bunch of friggin sissies. Yeah, they will always get better ratings than the NHL cause ANYONE can play basketball, but it actually takes supreme athletic ability to play hockey!!

The NBA sucks! No one cares outside of die hard basketball heads. Bunch pf spoiled prima donnas making way too much money and sit out a game when they have the sniffles. Bunch of friggin sissies. Yeah, they will always get better ratings than the NHL cause ANYONE can play basketball, but it actually takes supreme athletic ability to play hockey!!
- Phillywhiteout

You're being ignorant. More people care about the NBA then they do about the NHL. That is just the simple facts. Your final comment is unintelligent.

You're being ignorant. More people care about the NBA then they do about the NHL. That is just the simple facts. Your final comment is unintelligent.
- MJL

Basketball is nothing more than a track meet with a ball. It takes very little hand eye coordination and balance. That loser station ESPN shows 85 dunks a night. You'd have to be pretty damn uncoordinated not to be able to dunk a friggin basketball if you are that big. I grew up in a basketball family, so I know all about the sport. Hockey players are athletically supreme!! Why do you think most hockey players are scratch or single handicap golfers while NBA players can barely hit the damn ball? No hand/eye required. LOL!

Basketball is nothing more than a track meet with a ball. It takes very little hand eye coordination and balance. That loser station ESPN shows 85 dunks a night. You'd have to be pretty damn uncoordinated not to be able to dunk a friggin basketball if you are that big. I grew up in a basketball family, so I know all about the sport. Hockey players are athletically supreme!! Why do you think most hockey players are scratch or single handicap golfers while NBA players can barely hit the damn ball? No hand/eye required. LOL!
- Phillywhiteout

You're being ignorant.

You're being ignorant.
- MJL

The proof is in the pudding!! I am bang on!!

The proof is in the pudding!! I am bang on!!
- Phillywhiteout

Your comments are beyond absurdly stupid.