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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 22 @ 1:51 PM ET
You're incorrect. There is no spin. My posts are in black and white. Stop being stupid.
- MJL

they are public record
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:51 PM ET
Black and white…
I'll explain the premise to you. Mitch Marner is one of the 10 best forwards in the league. He is a big time scorer and has Selke level play away from the puck. The point is that you aren't trading him for just any defenseman. If you're trading Marner for a defenseman, it better be a dam good one.

- ClaudeFather


Yep, that's my post. Now start your brain and think about what is inferred there? You're so focused on trying to get at me that you don't realize how idiotic you're making yourself look. You're better off going after roenick.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:52 PM ET
Discussion. In reality Buffalo would not entertain that.
- ClaudeFather


When you have Jack Quinn and Owen Power on deck and nobody to replace Eichel you kinda have to consider it.

I don't think Dahlin is the kind of guy that Toronto wants tho.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 22 @ 1:54 PM ET
Which is why you're not going to trade Marner for defense help. Which is my entire point. So when people post trading Marner for defense help, that's why not.

- MJL

You can 100% trade him for defensive help. Maybe a team like Carolina. For Pesce and Jarvis. Face value some might say you lose the trade but if it makes them a much deeper team on the back end. Facts are this core 4 in the playoffs has been unsuccessful and a downright failure. That’s just a spit balling trade but he can 100% be moved for defensive help.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 22 @ 1:55 PM ET
When you have Jack Quinn and Owen Power on deck and nobody to replace Eichel you kinda have to consider it.

I don't think Dahlin is the kind of guy that Toronto wants tho.

- Tomahawk

Has to be a right shot
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 22 @ 1:55 PM ET
When you have Jack Quinn and Owen Power on deck and nobody to replace Eichel you kinda have to consider it.

I don't think Dahlin is the kind of guy that Toronto wants tho.

- Tomahawk

power has been less than impressive from what I read.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 22 @ 1:57 PM ET
power has been less than impressive from what I read.
- hello it's me 2050

Lot of “promise” in Buffalo. Hasn’t led to winning hockey games. Anaheim looks to be down a similar path.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:57 PM ET
Has to be a right shot
- ClaudeFather


They already have Mo. And Dahlin doesn't really bring anything that Mo doesn't already do extremely well.

They need a Weber type. I don't think that player is out there via trade.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:57 PM ET
You can 100% trade him for defensive help. Maybe a team like Carolina. For Pesce and Jarvis. Face value some might say you lose the trade but if it makes them a much deeper team on the back end. Facts are this core 4 in the playoffs has been unsuccessful and a downright failure. That’s just a spit balling trade but he can 100% be moved for defensive help.
- ClaudeFather


LOL, well sure you can trade Marner for a defenseman but you need to get value back. You would not trade Marner for Pesce and Jarvis. Nobody, myself included has said that you can't trade him for a defenseman. My point is that you're not likely going to get the level of defenseman you need in trading Marner to make it worth the deal.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 22 @ 1:58 PM ET
They already have Mo. And Dahlin doesn't really bring anything that Mo doesn't already do extremely well.
- Tomahawk

Yup. The trade really needs to be a lesser Dman plus some depth. You’re not getting a top dog for Marner straight up so you have to go for something that makes your team overall better .
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 22 @ 2:02 PM ET
Yup. The trade really needs to be a lesser Dman plus some depth. You’re not getting a top dog for Marner straight up so you have to go for something that makes your team overall better .
- ClaudeFather


And the Leafs won't make that kind of trade b/c Marner is worth too much... as MJL has been trying to explain to you...


hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 22 @ 2:02 PM ET
Yup. The trade really needs to be a lesser Dman plus some depth. You’re not getting a top dog for Marner straight up so you have to go for something that makes your team overall better .
- ClaudeFather

a recchi/ leclair-desjardin type trade
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 22 @ 2:03 PM ET
a recchi/ leclair-desjardin type trade
- hello it's me 2050


I am praying that is what happens with TK.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 22 @ 2:07 PM ET
I am praying that is what happens with TK.
- mickel25

not a chance imo..8 year 9.5 per......unless TK decides to test free agency.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 22 @ 2:07 PM ET
And the Leafs won't make that kind of trade b/c Marner is worth too much... as MJL has been trying to explain to you...



- Tomahawk

And they’re foolish not to…
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 22 @ 2:07 PM ET
a recchi/ leclair-desjardin type trade
- hello it's me 2050

100%. But Marner is too valuable 😂
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 22 @ 2:11 PM ET
100%. But Marner is too valuable 😂
- ClaudeFather

they probably let JT walk keep the other 3.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 22 @ 2:14 PM ET
they probably let JT walk keep the other 3.
- hello it's me 2050

I think he will sign cheap. A Girouxish Ottawa deal. They’ll give Marner the world on his next contract and still have no depth or D; first round exits for eternity
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 22 @ 2:16 PM ET
I think he will sign cheap. A Girouxish Ottawa deal. They’ll give Marner the world on his next contract and still have no depth or D; first round exits for eternity
- ClaudeFather

speaking of, CC looking like another early spring on the golf course, unless he ask for a trade.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 22 @ 2:17 PM ET
speaking of, CC looking like another early spring on the golf course, unless he ask for a trade.
- hello it's me 2050

Yea, again the best player on an under achieving team. He went there too early. At the same time I could see them taking a big jump next year.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Feb 22 @ 2:18 PM ET
You have a reading comprehension problem and a lack of common sense. I'll explain the premise to you. Mitch Marner is one of the 10 best forwards in the league. He is a big time scorer and has Selke level play away from the puck. The point is that you aren't trading him for just any defenseman. If you're trading Marner for a defenseman, it better be a dam good one. The statement is not that they would or could trade Marner for Makar. Talk about clueless.
- MJL



Maybe 12-15. Just off the top of my head: McDavid, Draisaitl, Kucherov, Tkachuk, McKinnon, Matthews, Pasternak, Panarin, Hughes and Barkov. I would even rather have Willie Ny and Pettersson.

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 22 @ 2:19 PM ET


Maybe 12-15. Just off the top of my head: McDavid, Draisaitl, Kucherov, Tkachuk, McKinnon, Matthews, Pasternak, Panarin, Hughes and Barkov. I would even rather have Willie Ny and Pettersson.

- Minnyhock

Crosby still better than Marner as well. Who do you want for the playoffs, Rantanen or Marner?
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Feb 22 @ 2:21 PM ET
Crosby still better than Marner as well. Who do you want for the playoffs, Rantanen or Marner?
- ClaudeFather


Rantanen and give me Aho too.

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 22 @ 2:22 PM ET
Rantanen and give me Aho too.
- Minnyhock

Guys moving down this list quite quickly lmao
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 22 @ 2:31 PM ET


Maybe 12-15. Just off the top of my head: McDavid, Draisaitl, Kucherov, Tkachuk, McKinnon, Matthews, Pasternak, Panarin, Hughes and Barkov. I would even rather have Willie Ny and Pettersson.

- Minnyhock



Not Konecny?
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