The great one said if Mario stayed healthy, he would have broken his records.
- WhiskeyMan

As we know with Lindros, health is a major part of the game.

Not Konecny?
- MBFlyerfan

But hey, if you want to talk about one year and about a guy not having a 1C, he’s got to be in the next tier. No?

they probably let JT walk keep the other 3.
- hello it's me 2050

That's what I think too

speaking of, CC looking like another early spring on the golf course, unless he ask for a trade.
- hello it's me 2050

As has been pointed out to you numerous times this year, Giroux's play has been excellent, is almost a point a game at 35, and is in no way, shape or form responsible for Ottawa missing the playoffs this year. He has played well above his contract.

Maybe 12-15. Just off the top of my head: McDavid, Draisaitl, Kucherov, Tkachuk, McKinnon, Matthews, Pasternak, Panarin, Hughes and Barkov. I would even rather have Willie Ny and Pettersson.
- Minnyhock

Swap Pasternak with TK and you have it right
- jd250

LOL...

As has been pointed out to you numerous times this year, Giroux's play has been excellent, is almost a point a game at 35, and is in no way, shape or form responsible for Ottawa missing the playoffs this year. He has played well above his contract.
- TheFreak

As has pointed out numerous times this year, never said his production was an issue.

I think if we are to make the playoffs, it will have to be one of the top 3 spots in the Metro.

NYR
Carolina
Philly/ NJD

I don't think Philly fares well against Carolina...I don't need to point out their strengths. Even if it is NYR..I still don't like Philly's chances with that. If we get a WC spot, Philly would still be playing either NYR or Carolina....
- TheFreak

I don't fear Carolina, I really don't. I think the Flyers have matched up well against the Canes this year, and would have a decent chance of beating them.

That being said, though I would love for the team to make the playoffs and get that experience for their younger players, as well get Torts another Jack Adams award, I don't want the playoffs on the horizon in any way influencing the decisions at the deadline. If the Flyers get their price, they need to pull the trigger. I think they will.

How is Michkov doing, feel like it’s been very quiet with his news
- ClaudeFather

His season is over, not playing hockey currently.

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How can he get the Jack Adam’s award? It’s a triumvirate and there’s only one trophy.

The Canes are both a top 10 scoring team and top 10 defensively. With the way the Flyers play, I would rather play the Rangers. So are the Rangers. Both teams are very good and significantly better than the Flyers. It's pick your poison.
- MJL

The Flyers matchup horribly with the Rangers, not just this year but over the past few years. I think the Canes are a good matchup.

And they’re foolish not to…
- ClaudeFather

Would you have been willing to trade Claude Giroux in his prime for a B defenseman and some "depth"?

did you see that stiff McAvoy's OT goal last night
- THE BLACK HAND

You mean the one that was set up by blatant interference by DeBrusk that was not called?

Would you have been willing to trade Claude Giroux in his prime for a B defenseman and some "depth"?
- Tomahawk

Did we have Auston Matthews and Willie Nylander?

Did we have Auston Matthews and Willie Nylander?
- ClaudeFather

Assume that we did, would you have?

What you don’t get is you’re not getting a top Dman for him. You’re not getting Macavoy, Fox, Heiskanen, Hedman, Makar, Hughes, Dahlin. The phone is hung up before you finish your sentence. And then the drop off to the next tier of Dman is a pretty big gap with those guys so who’s left? A guy like Chabot?
- ClaudeFather

Marner for McAvoy??

was he successful at it? if so how are you measuring that success?
- hello it's me 2050

I guess it’s up to you to do your own research if you weren’t aware Risto played net front for the Sabres at times.

Assume that we did, would you have?
- Tomahawk

If the team has failed to have any playoff success 7 years in a row like the leafs did. Absolutely, without hesitation.

If the team has failed to have any playoff success 7 years in a row like the leafs did. Absolutely, without hesitation.
- ClaudeFather

So you'd be happy with trading Giroux for Jake Gardiner and Nik Kulemin? Or something along those lines? If so, that's pretty foolish.

Those kinds of trades don't often work out like the Leclair/Rico trade where the "depth" instantly develops into a 50-goal scorer.

If the team has failed to have any playoff success 7 years in a row like the leafs did. Absolutely, without hesitation.
- ClaudeFather

The Flyers did have zero playoff success from 2013 -2019. Probably cause Giroux didn't try hard enough, especially in 2013-14 and 2017-18 when he was 3rd and 4th in Hart voting.

So you'd be happy with trading Giroux for Jake Gardiner and Nik Kulemin? Or something along those lines? If so, that's pretty foolish.

Those kinds of trades don't often work out like the Leclair/Rico trade where the "depth" instantly develops into a 50-goal scorer.
- Tomahawk

Well obviously you just listed a crap trade; so not that one. But you should absolutely explore an option to solidify the D and bring in some depth by moving a key player.

I guess it’s up to you to do your own research if you weren’t aware Risto played net front for the Sabres at times.
- roenick97

so you have no answer for my response to your answer. understood.

do you think it is safe to say RR was not successful as a net front presence.

Marner for McAvoy??
- jd250

Why would the Bruins do that? Give up your 1D and create a big hole for a 1W when you have a better one in Pasta.

Well obviously you just listed a crap trade; so not that one. But you should absolutely explore an option to solidify the D and bring in some depth by moving a key player.
- ClaudeFather

That wouldn't have been considered a crap trade at the time...

That wouldn't have been considered a crap trade at the time...
- Tomahawk

Well we both know how Kumelin and Gardiner ended up so it’s a crap trade.

Well we both know how Kumelin and Gardiner ended up so it’s a crap trade.
- ClaudeFather

More than likely any b-dman and depth you'd have traded Giroux for would have turned into similar "crap".

It's the same situation with Marner.

If you trade an elite player and don't receive one in return, it's usually regrets.