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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:03 PM ET


Maybe 12-15. Just off the top of my head: McDavid, Draisaitl, Kucherov, Tkachuk, McKinnon, Matthews, Pasternak, Panarin, Hughes and Barkov. I would even rather have Willie Ny and Pettersson.

- Minnyhock


Marner is better than Hughes. Panarin and Barkov.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:06 PM ET
The Flyers matchup horribly with the Rangers, not just this year but over the past few years. I think the Canes are a good matchup.
- jd250


Both teams are a tough matchup for the Flyers.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 22 @ 4:11 PM ET
Marner is better than Hughes. Panarin and Barkov.
- MJL

Delusional Cliff
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:11 PM ET
That being said, though I would love for the team to make the playoffs and get that experience for their younger players, as well get Torts another Jack Adams award, I don't want the playoffs on the horizon in any way influencing the decisions at the deadline. If the Flyers get their price, they need to pull the trigger. I think they will.
- jd250


When Tortorella doesn't win the Jack Adams. You'll say he's the winner anyway.



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:14 PM ET
You mean the one that was set up by blatant interference by DeBrusk that was not called?
- jd250


Good goal, that's not interference. It wasn't called because it's not a penalty.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 22 @ 4:14 PM ET
so you have no answer for my response to your answer. understood.

do you think it is safe to say RR was not successful as a net front presence.

- hello it's me 2050

Why do I need to give an answer for something that I’m aware of and you aren’t? It’s very simple. Ristolainen has played the point and net front presence for the Buffalo Sabres. Why would I look for dada for his success rate? If you already have the answer, provide it. If you don’t, do your own research.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:15 PM ET
More than likely any b-dman and depth you'd have traded Giroux for would have turned into similar "crap".

It's the same situation with Marner.

If you trade an elite player and don't receive one in return, it's usually regrets.

- Tomahawk


He's not capable of understanding that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:16 PM ET
Delusional Cliff
- ClaudeFather


You've become a troll. Incapable of actually detailing why it's delusional. Only capable of rhetoric and name calling.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 22 @ 4:19 PM ET
He's not capable of understanding that.
- MJL


Case in point: Matthew Tkachuk trade.

I'm a big fan of Weegar, but even if Huberdeau didn't fall off the face of the earth there's no way Calgary could have ever hoped to win that trade. Meanwhile it basically catapulted Florida into contention.

You just don't trade elite players in quality for quantity deals.
GeorgeBailey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 08.16.2006

Feb 22 @ 4:20 PM ET
Marner is better than Hughes.
.

- MJL


Elaborate.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 22 @ 4:20 PM ET
Why do I need to give an answer for something that I’m aware of and you aren’t? It’s very simple. Ristolainen has played the point and net front presence for the Buffalo Sabres. Why would I look for dada for his success rate? If you already have the answer, provide it. If you don’t, do your own research.
- roenick97

you wonder why peeps barely respond to you? you are dumb.

you insinuated the flyers should use RR as a net front presence. I asked you why (fully aware it was tried in buffalo). your response was because he was used there. I then axed you if he was successful and if so how was he successful.

I pretty straight forward question. Yet once again you go round in circles full corky.

So i will ax you again. Was RR being used a net presence in buffalo a success?
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 22 @ 4:21 PM ET
defensemen always have a higher price tag than forwards.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:22 PM ET
Elaborate.
- GeorgeBailey


Marner is every bit as good as Hughes offensively and Marner is one of the best two way forwards in the entire league. Has been a finalist for the Selke award. Hughes is not.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 22 @ 4:22 PM ET
Case in point: Matthew Tkachuk trade.

I'm a big fan of Weegar, but even if Huberdeau didn't fall off the face of the earth there's no way Calgary could have ever hoped to win that trade. Meanwhile it basically catapulted Florida into contention.

You just don't trade elite players in quality for quantity deals.

- Tomahawk

Treivling was backed into a corner and had to make a trade, he did ok for the situation. And not to mention the team also just saw their other best player walk. Bad example.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 22 @ 4:24 PM ET
Treivling was backed into a corner and had to make a trade, he did ok for the situation. And not to mention the team also just saw their other best player walk. Bad example.
- ClaudeFather


taylor hall for adam larrson
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 22 @ 4:27 PM ET
you wonder why peeps barely respond to you? you are dumb.

you insinuated the flyers should use RR as a net front presence. I asked you why (fully aware it was tried in buffalo). your response was because he was used there. I then axed you if he was successful and if so how was he successful.

I pretty straight forward question. Yet once again you go round in circles full corky.

So i will ax you again. Was RR being used a net presence in buffalo a success?

- hello it's me 2050

Oh I’m dumb? Do you even know the definition of the word “ insinuated”? How does one insinuate and than go on to say “ fully aware it was tried in buffalo”.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 22 @ 4:27 PM ET
defensemen always have a higher price tag than forwards.
- Peter Richards


Wingers yes. Not centers
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 22 @ 4:30 PM ET
Oh I’m dumb? Do you even know the definition of the word “ insinuated”? How does one insinuate and than go on to say “ fully aware it was tried in buffalo”.
- roenick97

do the world a favor and go get snipped. never procreate
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Feb 22 @ 4:32 PM ET
Marner is better than Hughes. Panarin and Barkov.
- MJL


8th year in the NHL and hit 30 goals only twice playing with elite forwards. Barkov is better defensively and is really an elite defensive forward who scores a lot without playing with elites. Panarin and Hughes don’t have Matthews and Willy Ny. Panarin leaves room for debate but not Hughes.

roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 22 @ 4:33 PM ET
do the world a favor and go get snipped. never procreate
- hello it's me 2050


Do yourself and favor and jump off a really high building. The world was done with you along, long time ago. Which would explain why all your closest friends are here.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 22 @ 4:35 PM ET
taylor hall for adam larrson
- Peter Richards

Lol that’s a one for one bad trade
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:37 PM ET
8th year in the NHL and hit 30 goals only twice playing with elite forwards. Barkov is better defensively and is really an elite defensive forward who scores a lot without playing with elites. Panarin and Hughes don’t have Matthews and Willy Ny. Panarin leaves room for debate but not Hughes.
- Minnyhock



Marner has hit 90 plus points 3 times. Barkov once. Marner was a finalist for the Selke last season and is an elite defensive forward. Panarin and Hughes play with plenty of skilled high level players. Marner is better than Barkov because he is equal defensively and better offensively. Marner is better defensively than both Panarin and Hughes. Hughes may reach that uber elite level offensively in the future but until he does it and stays healthy, he is below Marner as a player.
BaronVonShiznit
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Desert Southwest
Joined: 09.07.2014

Feb 22 @ 4:37 PM ET
It would have to be something like Stevens for Shanahan. You just don't see those kinds of trades very much. Not because neither player was worth who they were traded for. It's just requires two teams to match up perfectly in what they need.
- Tomahawk


Not splitting hairs here, but Stevens was the NHL's punishment for the Blues signing Shanahan... it wasn't a "trade" in the technical sense.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 22 @ 4:39 PM ET
Not splitting hairs here, but Stevens was the NHL's punishment for the Blues signing Shanahan... it wasn't a "trade" in the technical sense.
- BaronVonShiznit


Oops, it was a bit before my time haha.

It just always sticks out in my mind as one of the few times when truly elite players were exchanged for each other.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Feb 22 @ 4:46 PM ET
Do yourself and favor and jump off a really high building. The world was done with you along, long time ago. Which would explain why all your closest friends are here.
- roenick97
lol
look at Lamont trying to cyber bully someone into killing themselves.

so was RR a successful next presence for buffalo when he was used in that capacity? it is ok to say you don't know.
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