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coohill
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Louisville, CO
Joined: 03.15.2007

Feb 23 @ 3:58 PM ET
It'll be interesting to see if the Penguins try to eat as much of Jake's salary as possible while sending another player with term to said team. Maybe this becomes a thing?
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Feb 23 @ 4:52 PM ET
Let me ask this question again

What does increasing the salary cap accomplish?????????Answer NOTHING

It makes the players richer but it does nothing for a return on the investment
If you double a players salary does that mean double the production.
If you think it does you are dumber than I thought you all are.

Make the GM's responsible Make them do their homework instead of just throwing money around and making everyone a part of FWS FAT WALLET SYNDROME
Make these bums do something to earn their money. One good year does not cut it
If you were good for one year in your job does your wages double HELL NO
Make these guys earn it Keep them hungry and lean The hunger is gone once the big money flow in I wish we could go back to real old time hockey instead of this crap we have today Guys who score 1o goals making millions RUBBISH Everyone thinks throwing more money at something solves the problem Clue It does not it just makes it worse
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 23 @ 5:09 PM ET
you can still trade for these players if your players are injured... you just cant ice a team that exceeds the salary cap...
- theCaseyJones


The trade deadline is well before the playoffs.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 23 @ 5:11 PM ET
Let me ask this question again

What does increasing the salary cap accomplish?????????Answer NOTHING

- broncohorvath


The salary cap ensures the 50/50 split of HRR along with escrow.
Turnitaround
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 23 @ 6:02 PM ET
ding ding ding we have a winner... how hard is that, right? seems pretty obvious to me
- Shynes57


Hard legally to enforce because technically salaries are not paid during the playoffs
The Judge
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 08.30.2021

Feb 23 @ 6:13 PM ET
So Montreal is no longer the leading candidate to trade for Guentzel? The more that I thought about that it wasn't making sense...a team already out of the playoff race outbids everyone else to add an injured American-born player that needs to waive his NTC and maybe plays 10-12 games before leaving as a UFA.

I'll keep my eye on Vegas now.

- Cooleus


Cooleus
Joined: 04.13.2021

Feb 23 @ 7:01 PM ET
Let me ask this question again

What does increasing the salary cap accomplish?????????Answer NOTHING

It makes the players richer but it does nothing for a return on the investment
If you double a players salary does that mean double the production.
If you think it does you are dumber than I thought you all are....Clue It does not it just makes it worse

- broncohorvath


Too bad there isn't a GM that has adopted your philosophy. No more doubling your salary. I want a group of players that are hungry and lean. I'm going to do my homework. So let's pretend you draft McDavid or MacKinnon or Kucherov. Start them on an ELC. What happens with their next contract? No big money for you. We're going to bridge you for 1-2 more years and keep you hungry. Then another bridge. Now you are almost UFA. You are asking for $10M x 8 years?? Are you crazy. No way. No big money long-term deals. So I'm going to just trade you for cheaper players. Great. So you trade your superstar for a couple of young stars on RFA deals. And even if you win the trade, you quickly have to trade these guys before they ask for a raise. And then instead of bringing in UFAs like Hyman or Kane to help McDavid, or instead of trading for Ekholm, you operate on a tight budget and fill out your roster with guys like Daniel Sprong and Zach Bogosian. Yeah that's the winning model. Learn how the cap works. By the way, the closest we've come to that is Arizona and Ottawa, during years when they were cash-strapped. Anytime they developed a good young player looking for a raise in-line with his peers, they were shipped out for cheaper players. That's how you finish in last place every year and become the joke of the league. Solid ideas boomer!
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Feb 23 @ 7:27 PM ET
The salary cap ensures the 50/50 split of HRR along with escrow.
- MJL


Does it make the game of hockey better? Greed never makes it better How about making the salary cap double what it is and call it a day. Maybe triple Will that make the game better Will you get triple the production and a better game because of it If you say yes you are a moron
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Feb 23 @ 7:32 PM ET
Too bad there isn't a GM that has adopted your philosophy. No more doubling your salary. I want a group of players that are hungry and lean. I'm going to do my homework. So let's pretend you draft McDavid or MacKinnon or Kucherov. Start them on an ELC. What happens with their next contract? No big money for you. We're going to bridge you for 1-2 more years and keep you hungry. Then another bridge. Now you are almost UFA. You are asking for $10M x 8 years?? Are you crazy. No way. No big money long-term deals. So I'm going to just trade you for cheaper players. Great. So you trade your superstar for a couple of young stars on RFA deals. And even if you win the trade, you quickly have to trade these guys before they ask for a raise. And then instead of bringing in UFAs like Hyman or Kane to help McDavid, or instead of trading for Ekholm, you operate on a tight budget and fill out your roster with guys like Daniel Sprong and Zach Bogosian. Yeah that's the winning model. Learn how the cap works. By the way, the closest we've come to that is Arizona and Ottawa, during years when they were cash-strapped. Anytime they developed a good young player looking for a raise in-line with his peers, they were shipped out for cheaper players. That's how you finish in last place every year and become the joke of the league. Solid ideas boomer!
- Cooleus

You missed the point too More money does not fix anything Example Democrats want more money so can stop illegal immigration More money for WHAT?
You stop the flow by enforcing the laws not more money to process the illegals
That is like have a basement full of water and hiring a whole bunch of workers to mop it up Unless you find the source of the water you cannot mop up YOU SHUT OFF THE WATER. You people never look at the long term picture THE NFL has players making 50 mill a year and are still not happy What is the point Is the game better ABSOLUTELY NOT
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Feb 23 @ 7:35 PM ET
Too bad there isn't a GM that has adopted your philosophy. No more doubling your salary. I want a group of players that are hungry and lean. I'm going to do my homework. So let's pretend you draft McDavid or MacKinnon or Kucherov. Start them on an ELC. What happens with their next contract? No big money for you. We're going to bridge you for 1-2 more years and keep you hungry. Then another bridge. Now you are almost UFA. You are asking for $10M x 8 years?? Are you crazy. No way. No big money long-term deals. So I'm going to just trade you for cheaper players. Great. So you trade your superstar for a couple of young stars on RFA deals. And even if you win the trade, you quickly have to trade these guys before they ask for a raise. And then instead of bringing in UFAs like Hyman or Kane to help McDavid, or instead of trading for Ekholm, you operate on a tight budget and fill out your roster with guys like Daniel Sprong and Zach Bogosian. Yeah that's the winning model. Learn how the cap works. By the way, the closest we've come to that is Arizona and Ottawa, during years when they were cash-strapped. Anytime they developed a good young player looking for a raise in-line with his peers, they were shipped out for cheaper players. That's how you finish in last place every year and become the joke of the league. Solid ideas boomer!
- Cooleus

Regardless of the money Take away the greed and every year there will still be a champion Why does money make it all better? I would love to hear an answer to that question Some will still win and someone will still lose They only thing that goes away is the GREED But maybe you are a proponent of GREED I feel sorry for you dimwit
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 23 @ 7:41 PM ET
Does it make the game of hockey better? Greed never makes it better How about making the salary cap double what it is and call it a day. Maybe triple Will that make the game better Will you get triple the production and a better game because of it If you say yes you are a moron
- broncohorvath



No offense but you clearly don't understand the salary cap. NHL players before the cap were getting upwards of 70% of the revenue. Now that wasn't the players fault, that was the teams fault but nonetheless. That had to be corrected. The salary cap is based on revenue. It's not just a function of doubling it or making it what you want. You're not making much sense.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 23 @ 7:42 PM ET
You missed the point too More money does not fix anything Example Democrats want more money so can stop illegal immigration More money for WHAT?
You stop the flow by enforcing the laws not more money to process the illegals
That is like have a basement full of water and hiring a whole bunch of workers to mop it up Unless you find the source of the water you cannot mop up YOU SHUT OFF THE WATER. You people never look at the long term picture THE NFL has players making 50 mill a year and are still not happy What is the point Is the game better ABSOLUTELY NOT

- broncohorvath


There wouldn't be a game if not for the salary cap, so yes, it has made the game better.
HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Nashville
Joined: 09.10.2021

Feb 23 @ 8:13 PM ET
There wouldn't be a game if not for the salary cap, so yes, it has made the game better.
- MJL


Exactly. But if you don't like the greed and high salaries, then just become a big fan of the AHL. Just a bunch of hungry guys playing for modest pay, with modest ticket prices. But when you get tired of watching Rocco Grimaldi and want to watch McDavid again, then let us all know when you're back.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 23 @ 8:19 PM ET
Exactly. But if you don't like the greed and high salaries, then just become a big fan of the AHL. Just a bunch of hungry guys playing for modest pay, with modest ticket prices. But when you get tired of watching Rocco Grimaldi and want to watch McDavid again, then let us all know when you're back.
- HockeyBuzzed



OilyJay
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.31.2015

Feb 23 @ 9:18 PM ET
I don't believe for a minute this phoney has ever lacerated his spleen.
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:41 PM ET
There wouldn't be a game if not for the salary cap, so yes, it has made the game better.
- MJL


Better Really Stats are the same but just more money being spent How is that better When is enough enough Maybe like the NFL who does not need gate revenue to survive Why not pay all of them 10 mill a year The game is the same IT is the money that makes it NOT BETTER
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:44 PM ET
Exactly. But if you don't like the greed and high salaries, then just become a big fan of the AHL. Just a bunch of hungry guys playing for modest pay, with modest ticket prices. But when you get tired of watching Rocco Grimaldi and want to watch McDavid again, then let us all know when you're back.
- HockeyBuzzed


Probably more competitive in the AHL Some guys in the NHL are just around for the paycheck In face a lot of them No incentive to play hard FWS Fat Wallets make you too comfortable Ride the buses between games
IBleedBlu1
Season Ticket Holder
St Louis Blues
Location: St Louis, MO
Joined: 06.10.2014

Feb 24 @ 12:25 AM ET
Hey Eck, no comment of the Lightning analyst TRIPP "DEAD MEAT" TRACY'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE INJURY TO MATTHEW TKACHUK AND HOW HAPPY HE WAS THAT HE GOT HURT! WELL TELL TRIPP THAT KEITH "WALT" TKACHUK IS LOOKING FOR HIM!
jb55
Joined: 07.11.2023

Feb 24 @ 6:28 AM ET
Here we go again. League needs to come up with something to address this.
- DirtyDangles


Totally agree. It's getting out of hand.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 8:06 AM ET
Better Really Stats are the same but just more money being spent How is that better When is enough enough Maybe like the NFL who does not need gate revenue to survive Why not pay all of them 10 mill a year The game is the same IT is the money that makes it NOT BETTER
- broncohorvath


Did you by any chance go to Harvard?
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 24 @ 8:24 AM ET
There are 32 GM's in the league who represent the 32 Clubs, the LTIR issue has NEVER been brought up nor discussed. That means the the GM's dont care about the LTIR issue because they know if they need to use it one day, they will be able to. The only people who have issue with it are the fans.
BernardShakey
Joined: 08.16.2016

Feb 24 @ 8:30 AM ET
Makes complete sense. Now that Eichel and Stone are “injured” they will have the cap room to add. Gary won’t do anything. As long as his “non traditional, low tax hockey markets” do well, he’s happy
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 24 @ 8:33 AM ET
Makes complete sense. Now that Eichel and Stone are “injured” they will have the cap room to add. Gary won’t do anything. As long as his “non traditional, low tax hockey markets” do well, he’s happy
- BernardShakey


Why would he need to do anything?
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 24 @ 8:33 AM ET
Let me ask this question again

What does increasing the salary cap accomplish?????????Answer NOTHING

It makes the players richer but it does nothing for a return on the investment
If you double a players salary does that mean double the production.
If you think it does you are dumber than I thought you all are.

Make the GM's responsible Make them do their homework instead of just throwing money around and making everyone a part of FWS FAT WALLET SYNDROME
Make these bums do something to earn their money. One good year does not cut it
If you were good for one year in your job does your wages double HELL NO
Make these guys earn it Keep them hungry and lean The hunger is gone once the big money flow in I wish we could go back to real old time hockey instead of this crap we have today Guys who score 1o goals making millions RUBBISH Everyone thinks throwing more money at something solves the problem Clue It does not it just makes it worse

- broncohorvath


This dude is the best

NSco1996
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Downers Grove, IL
Joined: 09.06.2015

Feb 24 @ 11:21 AM ET
Suggested fix - reduce the LTIR cap relief to where you only get 25% cap relief, or a minimum of league minimum salary, unless the injury is caused by an illegal play by an opposing player (any penalty, fine or suspension) in which case you get 100%.
- Quetzalcoatl

i think just keeping the salary cap in the playoffs is more efficient, deadline acquisitions are salary retained players
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