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jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Feb 28 @ 1:50 PM ET
How has Fortesque developed so far? Just curious if theyd dangle him in trade talks
- Slimtj100



dangly ones

Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 28 @ 1:50 PM ET
You would NEVER believe this a fan site for a team that won 10 out of their last 11 and is in first place!
- TommyGTrain

All we’re doing is trying to improve an already good team lol I just don’t understand why people have a problem with doing that. Especially this year. Yea we’re good but let’s get better

It’s getting to a point, especially on CF, where it seems like people would rather have 15-20 prospects to build on as opposed to 10-15 and maybe a Stanley cup. I mean cmon man. Like we’ll be ok with less for gods sakes
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 28 @ 2:13 PM ET
How has Fortesque developed so far? Just curious if theyd dangle him in trade talks
- Slimtj100

Not as good/noticeable as Perreault. But that's not fair to Fortescue. He's probably a guy who stays in college for 3 years. Which is fine.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 28 @ 2:16 PM ET
https://x.com/TomUrtzJr/s.../1762919447226904839?s=20

the fire rises.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 28 @ 2:16 PM ET
Not as good/noticeable as Perreault. But that's not fair to Fortescue. He's probably a guy who stays in college for 3 years. Which is fine.
- blacksheep1

Yea I just talking to someone discussing the Lindgren contract and saying that 4 years max and that’s when you’d assume Fortesque would come in and be ready for at least bottom pair
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 28 @ 2:19 PM ET
Yea I just talking to someone discussing the Lindgren contract and saying that 4 years max and that’s when you’d assume Fortesque would come in and be ready for at least bottom pair
- Slimtj100

That's a draft need. Draft more centers and d-men.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 28 @ 2:21 PM ET
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Arizona has lost 13 straight games. 📉

It's the 4th longest winless streak in Jets/Coyotes franchise history, and the second longest since the team moved to Arizona in 1996.

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Future Ranger Clayton Keller.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Feb 28 @ 2:30 PM ET
That's a draft need. Draft more centers and d-men.
- blacksheep1


Unless they do something shocking and trade for Hanafin somehow and then trade lindgrens rights in the offseason. But they’re going to probably resign him instead. Guys a warrior but we need not look further than staal and Girardi to see what could happen
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 28 @ 2:48 PM ET
Unless they do something shocking and trade for Hanafin somehow and then trade lindgrens rights in the offseason. But they’re going to probably resign him instead. Guys a warrior but we need not look further than staal and Girardi to see what could happen
- picklerick

He’s only 26. And any injuries have generally been minor. Last year what did he miss like 10-15 games? Shoulder I think. He’s gets banged up sure but he seems to like it lol his face may get uglier but who cares about that. I think one more contract is fine. Him and Fox are like brothers too and that chemistry is important
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Feb 28 @ 2:49 PM ET
He’s only 26. And any injuries have generally been minor. Last year what did he miss like 10-15 games? Shoulder I think. He’s gets banged up sure but it seems to like it lol his face may get uglier but who cares about that. I think one more contract is fine. Him and Fox are like brothers too and that chemistry is important
- Slimtj100


He’s been terrible this season
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 28 @ 2:52 PM ET
He’s been terrible this season
- picklerick

Miller has been worse, especially recently.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 28 @ 2:53 PM ET
Boomer has the Rangers at #2 in his power rankings if you care
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Feb 28 @ 2:54 PM ET
Miller has been worse, especially recently.
- Slimtj100


That’s false by any metric. Miller maybe has the bigger gaffes that stand out more but lindgren has actually been very bad. Below replacement level
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 28 @ 2:55 PM ET
That’s false by any metric. Miller maybe has the bigger gaffes that stand out more but lindgren has actually been very bad. Below replacement level
- picklerick

I’m gonna trust my eyes on this lol sorry
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 28 @ 3:01 PM ET
I’m gonna trust my eyes on this lol sorry
- Slimtj100

Both have been bad. I'm not getting into a pissing contest who's been worse.
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Feb 28 @ 3:02 PM ET
I’m gonna trust my eyes on this lol sorry
- Slimtj100

both need to be a hell of a lot better come playoff time.

if they can get some cushion or their playoff spot is secured, if anyone's going to get a rest it has to be 55
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 28 @ 3:03 PM ET
Both have been bad. I'm not getting into a pissing contest who's been worse.
- blacksheep1

I think the difference is work ethic. Lindgrens is light years better than millers. If miller worked harder and played tougher he’d be great. But he just hasn’t been doing that. He’s very soft

Lindgren plays hard every night and you know after every game you’ve gotten his best effort
mames11
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.29.2013

Feb 28 @ 3:05 PM ET
Miller has been worse, especially recently.
- Slimtj100



He hasn't been the same since he broke Goodrow's jaw with a shot in practice a few months ago. Recall when he "took time away" from the team? He wasn't mentally in the game and was shook up from the incident.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Feb 28 @ 3:06 PM ET
I think the difference is work ethic. Lindgrens is light years better than millers. If miller worked harder and played tougher he’d be great. But he just hasn’t been doing that. He’s very soft

Lindgren plays hard every night and you know after every game you’ve gotten his best effort

- Slimtj100


With even lackluster work ethic Miller has been significantly better than Lindgren, while still not being that good
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 28 @ 3:10 PM ET
I think the difference is work ethic. Lindgrens is light years better than millers. If miller worked harder and played tougher he’d be great. But he just hasn’t been doing that. He’s very soft

Lindgren plays hard every night and you know after every game you’ve gotten his best effort

- Slimtj100

Like I see both your points. Lindgren is always gonna bust his balls. While it looks like he's not doing that all the time. Miller analytically, has been better. But that's like biting your tongue or stubbing you toe. Both aren't great.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 28 @ 3:13 PM ET
With even lackluster work ethic Miller has been significantly better than Lindgren, while still not being that good
- picklerick

You don’t allow yourself to judge players by anything other than charts.

This is an example/analogy…the last minute in the game I want Lindgren out there looooooooooong before Miller. I love key, don’t get me wrong, but he’s like Kakko. They have all this talent and putting it together is like a 1 million piece jigsaw puzzle

I’m never frustrated with Lindgren based on my eyes telling me I shouldn’t be
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Feb 28 @ 3:16 PM ET
You don’t allow yourself to judge players by anything other than charts.

This is an example/analogy…the last minute in the game I want Lindgren out there looooooooooong before Miller. I love key, don’t get me wrong, but he’s like Kakko. They have all this talent and putting it together is like a 1 million piece jigsaw puzzle

I’m never frustrated with Lindgren based on my eyes telling me I shouldn’t be

- Slimtj100

Me either, but I've also watch Lindgren all year, and we've talked about it. Something with him isn't right.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 28 @ 3:22 PM ET
He hasn't been the same since he broke Goodrow's jaw with a shot in practice a few months ago. Recall when he "took time away" from the team? He wasn't mentally in the game and was shook up from the incident.
- mames11

It definitely seems like he doesn’t have a mean bone in his body which you need to have as an NHL defenseman to a certain extent. He’s still raw tho and can still develop more into that
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Feb 28 @ 3:23 PM ET
You don’t allow yourself to judge players by anything other than charts.

This is an example/analogy…the last minute in the game I want Lindgren out there looooooooooong before Miller. I love key, don’t get me wrong, but he’s like Kakko. They have all this talent and putting it together is like a 1 million piece jigsaw puzzle

I’m never frustrated with Lindgren based on my eyes telling me I shouldn’t be

- Slimtj100


I almost never look at charts. When I do I post them here, so use that as reference. but they also confirm what I’m saying. Like I said Miller has had some terrible moments. I’ve called out many many mistakes by milller on here in real time and don’t think ive mentioned lindgren at all. But on average it’s lindgren by a country mile that’s been worse. Lower ceiling and if he’s not adding defensively he’s got nothing else going on
NYR11
New York Rangers
Joined: 07.24.2021

Feb 28 @ 3:24 PM ET
I think the difference is work ethic. Lindgrens is light years better than millers. If miller worked harder and played tougher he’d be great. But he just hasn’t been doing that. He’s very soft

Lindgren plays hard every night and you know after every game you’ve gotten his best effort

- Slimtj100


See, I think Miller has more raw skill and is more gifted/talented than Lindgren. I think Lindgren is (usually) more positionally sound and has better defensive hockey IQ. Lindgren also works harder and is much tougher than Miller. Miller HAS to add some snarl to his game. He has to use his size to his advantage more
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