It's like when Roman Emperor would take over and their first task was to destroy the legacy of the previous guy
- mr.peanut

Well at least an Empire, historically, has a 300 year life span

I think the Habs (as a whole), regardless of ownership, GM’s, coaches etc…..were all depending on the past for future success.

If you want to drive somewhere and be first to get there, you can’t be looking in the rear view mirror the entire trip.
- Snots33_77

agreed, and it would seem that the Gorton/Hughes duo might be what the organization was looking for. they didn't have any ties with the team or its past, so they don't care about making moves if they consider it's for the best in a not-so-distant future.

agreed, and it would seem that the Gorton/Hughes duo might be what the organization was looking for. they didn't have any ties with the team or its past, so they don't care about making moves if they consider it's for the best in a not-so-distant future.
- Pat1993

100%. Love the addition of those 2 guys! Breath of fresh air all around.

Hahahaha!! Either way, not a fun conversation.
- Snots33_77

meh, I don't mind it. the only thing I find really annoying is when fans get mad if the habs win, that's just going too far for me loll

It's like when Roman Emperor would take over and their first task was to destroy the legacy of the previous guy
- mr.peanut

Nero? that dude was fire.

he was soooo good, after 10 years in office and his firing, Habs went into the first rebuild of their 100 years old history.

he was soooo good, after 10 years in office and his firing, Habs went into the first rebuild of their 100 years old history.

- fidopro

yes, that's exactly what I've been saying, you haven't missed the point at all!!

yes, that's exactly what I've been saying, you haven't missed the point at all!!



- Pat1993

sorry didn't read back. were you saying the same thing?

sorry didn't read back. were you saying the same thing?
- fidopro

just the ol' classic convo about MB and the trauma he's brought upon many fans lol

I respect those who've witnessed the glory days, but you also have to recognize the league has changed, and the reality simply isn't the same. we won't ever see a team win the cup 4 years in a row.. so yes the habs sure have fallen, but you can't directly compare with what they did back then imho.
- Pat1993

Other teams (ie. Pens, Avs, Chicago, Detroit, etc) have had great runs in the meantime while we were just squeezing by into the playoffs and got an early exit. We were stuck in No Man's Land for 30 freakin' years ... you'd think someone would have thought to try another approach. Total lack of vision and planning.

Bergy's years were characterised with poor drafting, inexistent player development and constant hole patching with plugs while overly relying on their only one star player (Price) ... while totally ignoring building our center line, good luck winning a Cup with this strategy.

Luckily, his last years were more succesful at the draft table but the damage was already done as we barely had any players we drafted ourselves in our lineup, they all came from other organisation.

The final straws for Molson were probably the Aho/KK, Danault and Mailloux PR disasters.

I won't even mention the bad contracts he handed over to marginal players, we're still trying to clear the mess he left over.

just the ol' classic convo about MB and the trauma he's brought upon many fans lol
- Pat1993

well, he did suck quite a lot. lol
he was good at trades, but really really bad at everything else.
no wonder he haven't found another gig. same for Timmins btw.

Other teams (ie. Pens, Avs, Chicago, Detroit, etc) have had great runs in the meantime while we were just squeezing by into the playoffs and got an early exit. We were stuck in No Man's Land for 30 freakin' years ... you'd think someone would have thought to try another approach. Total lack of vision and planning.

Bergy's years were characterised with poor drafting, inexistent player development and constant hole patching with plugs while overly relying on their only one star player (Price) ... while totally ignoring building our center line, good luck winning a Cup with this strategy.

Luckily, his last years were more succesful at the draft table but the damage was already done as we barely had any players we drafted ourselves in our lineup, they all came from other organisation.

The final straws for Molson were probably the Aho/KK, Danault and Mailloux PR disasters.

I won't even mention the bad contracts he handed over to marginal players, we're still trying to clear the mess he left over.
- Garfield512

yup, I've never said it was perfect either, and I'm fully aware it was far from it. I still find the "trauma" is way overblown every time we talk about him, that's all.

well, he did suck quite a lot. lol
he was good for trades, but really really bad at everything else.
no wonder he haven't found another gig. same for Timmins btw.
- fidopro

yup, I've never said it was perfect either, and I'm fully aware it was far from it. I still find the "trauma" is way overblown every time we talk about him, that's all.

well, he did suck quite a lot. lol
he was good for trades, but really really bad at everything else.
no wonder he haven't found another gig. same for Timmins btw.
- fidopro

Would be fun to see just how much he’s advising the GM in LA?? Lol

They might as well have purchased a Magic 8 Ball ffs.

Hahahaha!! Either way, not a fun conversation.
- Snots33_77

But still better than talking hockey with pecafan.

But still better than talking hockey with pecafan.
- Réal_Ruelle

eff the coyotes.


also, good morning.
- kicksave856

yeah, thats a wild animal, right there

yeah, thats a wild animal, right there
- deadpoulet

I'm thinking if it wasnt for the coyotes, you'd be known just as "poulet".

But still better than talking hockey with pecafan.
- Réal_Ruelle

Other teams (ie. Pens, Avs, Chicago, Detroit, etc) have had great runs in the meantime while we were just squeezing by into the playoffs and got an early exit. We were stuck in No Man's Land for 30 freakin' years ... you'd think someone would have thought to try another approach. Total lack of vision and planning.

Bergy's years were characterised with poor drafting, inexistent player development and constant hole patching with plugs while overly relying on their only one star player (Price) ... while totally ignoring building our center line, good luck winning a Cup with this strategy.

Luckily, his last years were more succesful at the draft table but the damage was already done as we barely had any players we drafted ourselves in our lineup, they all came from other organisation.

The final straws for Molson were probably the Aho/KK, Danault and Mailloux PR disasters.

I won't even mention the bad contracts he handed over to marginal players, we're still trying to clear the mess he left over.
- Garfield512

hes been gone for years and some of us have moved on

I dont see the point in living in the past (in general as well, to be honest) other than hurting yourself, really

I'm thinking if it wasnt for the coyotes, you'd be known just as "poulet".
- Réal_Ruelle

hes been gone for years and some of us have moved on

I dont see the point in living in the past (in general as well, to be honest) other than hurting yourself, really
- deadpoulet

also the Aho offer sheet turned out to be a blessing in disguise, if it wasn't for that the habs may still have been stuck with KK lol

yup, I've never said it was perfect either, and I'm fully aware it was far from it. I still find the "trauma" is way overblown every time we talk about him, that's all.
- Pat1993

It's like a therapy session ... the frustration from long time fans who've seen better has to come out somehow.

I get pissed just thinking about him but I'm slowly "healing".

It's like a therapy session ... the frustration from long time fans who've seen better has to come out somehow.

I get pissed just thinking about him but I'm slowly "healing".
- Garfield512

I swear a group therapy here could do wonders...

also the Aho offer sheet turned out to be a blessing in disguise, if it wasn't for that the habs may still have been stuck with KK lol
- Pat1993