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picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Mar 1 @ 8:06 PM ET
https://x.com/daveyupper/...&t=uyemCTfXPLjxebCnYBfx6Q

Perreault has been injured fyi
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Mar 1 @ 8:28 PM ET
https://x.com/daveyupper/status/1763712794099060764?s=46&t=uyemCTfXPLjxebCnYBfx6Q

Perreault has been injured fyi

- picklerick


Upper body… hm… hopefully nothing serious.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 1 @ 10:15 PM ET
Vatrano scored vs Devils already
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Mar 1 @ 11:10 PM ET
Vatrano scored vs Devils already
- jimbro83


So did Henrique...

I just dont like what the cost of this potential trade will be.
TheMessiah94
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.21.2007

Mar 1 @ 11:44 PM ET
Vatrano scored vs Devils already
- jimbro83

2 times so far
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 1 @ 11:47 PM ET
So did Henrique...

I just dont like what the cost of this potential trade will be.

- aecliptic

Wheels has 2. The thing with Vatrano is he gets his shot off so quick. It’s off his stick in an instant and it’s a heavy hard shot. It’s very difficult for a goalie. It’s crazy how we got him for a 4th rder and then let him go for a measly 3.6 million bucks Drury really may not know what the hell he’s doing

But his charts suck so nvm
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Mar 2 @ 6:38 AM ET
Wheels has 2. The thing with Vatrano is he gets his shot off so quick. It’s off his stick in an instant and it’s a heavy hard shot. It’s very difficult for a goalie. It’s crazy how we got him for a 4th rder and then let him go for a measly 3.6 million bucks Drury really may not know what the hell he’s doing

But his charts suck so nvm

- Slimtj100

Drury is a terrible GM that has been lucky that 2 all-star players (Panarin and Fox) wanted to play no where but NY. Without them on the roster, Drury’s mistakes would be amplified.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 2 @ 6:39 AM ET
Wheels has 2. The thing with Vatrano is he gets his shot off so quick. It’s off his stick in an instant and it’s a heavy hard shot. It’s very difficult for a goalie. It’s crazy how we got him for a 4th rder and then let him go for a measly 3.6 million bucks Drury really may not know what the hell he’s doing

But his charts suck so nvm

- Slimtj100


These charts are making people overthink things

Bottom line, Vatrano can finish, and this team struggles finishing. And he’s a good guy that fit in well when he was here briefly.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 2 @ 6:59 AM ET
Drury is a terrible GM that has been lucky that 2 all-star players (Panarin and Fox) wanted to play no where but NY. Without them on the roster, Drury’s mistakes would be amplified.
- nyrangers9479

Buch and Vatrano are gone because of your boy Goodrow. Hope you realize that. Especially Vatrano
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 2 @ 7:02 AM ET
These charts are making people overthink things

Bottom line, Vatrano can finish, and this team struggles finishing. And he’s a good guy that fit in well when he was here briefly.

- jimbro83

They take all common sense away, charts

Anyway, with each passing day Vatranos price goes up so it may be best to stay away idk. I feel like he may cost Schneider ultimately and we know how little taste we have for that RHD is what they covet apparently
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 2 @ 7:25 AM ET
We piling on Chris Drury? All aboard this train, I'll make as stops as a conductor has to.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Mar 2 @ 7:34 AM ET
They take all common sense away, charts

Anyway, with each passing day Vatranos price goes up so it may be best to stay away idk. I feel like he may cost Schneider ultimately and we know how little taste we have for that RHD is what they covet apparently

- Slimtj100


Vatrano doesn’t have as many “expected goals” because when he shoots it the first time it goes in
bullethead7
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 07.26.2007

Mar 2 @ 7:34 AM ET
Yeah I don't really want Rempe fighting reaves but we know it'll happen. My hope is that the kid holds his own and nothing bad happens as we know what reaves can do. Question is though, do they play him? Theyve got Detroit and Tampa breathing down their necks and I honestly think they need the win more. Idk if anyone has the stats but I feel like they were doing better while reaves was out
- MeltingPlastic


Reaves sucked at the start of the season....a guaranteed minus every game....and was unplayable. He has been a different player since returning from injury and this 4th line combination has been very effective. He is a lock to play, especially with Rempe in the lineup. I highly doubt he starts anything, but should Rempe want to dance on Hockey Night in Canada, I expect he will oblige him.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 2 @ 8:04 AM ET
Reaves sucked at the start of the season....a guaranteed minus every game....and was unplayable. He has been a different player since returning from injury and this 4th line combination has been very effective. He is a lock to play, especially with Rempe in the lineup. I highly doubt he starts anything, but should Rempe want to dance on Hockey Night in Canada, I expect he will oblige him.
- bullethead7

If I had to say one thing maybe Lavy has said to Rempe is not do the staged thing. Let it come during the game if it happens, game flow thing. Let it happen naturally. He’s good thats what is crazy about it, he has skills to be effective. Hes directly led to two goals simply by being near the crease, and he can surprisingly skate well for a big man
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Mar 2 @ 8:47 AM ET
Vatrano doesn’t have as many “expected goals” because when he shoots it the first time it goes in
- jimbro83

Which suggests that Vatrano might revert back to his average. This isn't some hocus-pocus, voodoo ceremony.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Mar 2 @ 9:19 AM ET
Wheels has 2. The thing with Vatrano is he gets his shot off so quick. It’s off his stick in an instant and it’s a heavy hard shot. It’s very difficult for a goalie. It’s crazy how we got him for a 4th rder and then let him go for a measly 3.6 million bucks Drury really may not know what the hell he’s doing

But his charts suck so nvm

- Slimtj100


Yea well, we only had like $73 in cap space to sign guys so we really couldnt do anything.
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Mar 2 @ 9:27 AM ET
Vatrano doesn’t have as many “expected goals” because when he shoots it the first time it goes in
- jimbro83


It’s like you’re right there. So close to it you can touch it. But is it just out of your reach? Or will you seize it with everything you’ve got?
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Mar 2 @ 9:30 AM ET


Every one of these guys who takes the quote out of context for clicks is a clown
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Mar 2 @ 9:33 AM ET


Every one of these guys who takes the quote out of context for clicks is a clown

- picklerick


https://fb.watch/qyYyBXtdpb/?mibextid=tUvUA8
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 2 @ 9:37 AM ET
It’s like you’re right there. So close to it you can touch it. But is it just out of your reach? Or will you seize it with everything you’ve got?
- picklerick

It amazing you guys wanna die on this hill 🤷🏻‍♂️
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 2 @ 9:38 AM ET
Yea well, we only had like $73 in cap space to sign guys so we really couldnt do anything.
- aecliptic

Well he should’ve bought out goodrow then and signed Vatrano. That was logical and the right thing to do at the time. But intangibles
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Mar 2 @ 9:44 AM ET
It amazing you guys wanna die on this hill 🤷🏻‍♂️
- Slimtj100


This comment had less to do with vatrano and more to do with how expected goals and actual goals work/relate to each other and what the implications of having more actual goals than expected are.

Like the observation that a player doesn’t have a higher expected goals because he scores on so many of his shots proves the point that the results are abnormal lol. Its the opposite point

Ideally a players xG and G are fairly even. That means they’re scoring how they should be. If they have a higher xG than G (laf for example) that means the goals should be coming, and vice versa. Its not a perfect science but it is statistics
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 2 @ 9:49 AM ET
This comment had less to do with vatrano and more to do with how expected goals and actual goals work/relate to each other and what the implications of having more actual goals than expected are.

Like the observation that a player doesn’t have a higher expected goals because he scores on so many of his shots proves the point that the results are abnormal lol. Its the opposite point

- picklerick
just the fact that anyone has an issue with them getting him as a player is abnormal lol you don’t wanna give up the assets for him ok, because he will cost a lot, but he as a player would cure every ill the top 6 has.

You guys simply can’t be reasoned with regarding charts/data/analytics…you have no room for common sense
picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Mar 2 @ 9:51 AM ET
just the fact that anyone has an issue with them getting him as a player is abnormal lol you don’t wanna give up the assets for him ok, because he will cost a lot, but he as a player would cure every ill the top 6 has.
- Slimtj100


I don’t want to talk about Franklin anymore. I wasn’t trying to just now. I was talking xG. If we trade for him I hope I’m so wrong that you make fun of me forever.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 2 @ 9:54 AM ET
I don’t want to talk about Franklin anymore. I wasn’t trying to just now. I was talking xG. If we trade for him I hope I’m so wrong that you make fun of me forever.
- picklerick

I would just advise that not every single player should be judged by charts/data etc. I’ve learned to accept them to a certain extent, but you guys man, you get sooooo overboard with them. It’s like cocaine to you. Literally nothing else matters

Just get someone I can’t wait to see who it is that they get
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