TheFreak
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Location: Duncan, BC Joined: 12.06.2019
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I’m not saying the Flyers will take a run at Tarasenko or anyone along those lines (they shouldn’t), I sure do miss the days of a deadline add, such as Tony Amonte or Adam Oates. - roenick97
One of the worst trades in Philly history. For what? 12 games? |
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And they were pegged to be a bottom 5 team. Torts just doing a phenomenal job. - ClaudeFather
The Flyers are getting unbelievably lucky despite coaching in a manner that is costing us above average prospects |
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Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA Joined: 03.20.2020
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I wont have a problem if they don't trade Laughton, Frost, Atkinson or any player with term at the deadline. Those are players you SHOULD wait for the best deal possible and if what you want isn't met, they can be dealt at the draft or revisited at the deadline next year etc.
With Walker and Seeler, when you see the contracts and term they are apparently looking for, you trade them for the best deal you are offered. End of statement. In fact I would take them walking for nothing (at least you get cap space) rather than signing them to those contracts. - MBFlyerfan
Agreed. I'm thinking it's better to keep Walker/Seeler than sell them too low if they intend to make the PO's. Then, let them walk at the end of the year if they want too much money. Either way, they get them for fair prices on shorter term deals or they get some salary cap relief. Personally, I'd like to see them traded to stock draft assets for future use, but there can be a win/win from the Flyer's perspective. This is particularly true in light of the fact that a 2nd is probably the best they can get, and 2nd rounders have a small chance at ever playing in the NHL on a regular basis. |
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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Agreed. I'm thinking it's better to keep Walker/Seeler than sell them too low if they intend to make the PO's. Then, let them walk at the end of the year if they want too much money. Either way, they get them for fair prices on shorter term deals or they get some salary cap relief. Personally, I'd like to see them traded to stock draft assets for future use, but there can be a win/win from the Flyer's perspective. This is particularly true in light of the fact that a 2nd is probably the best they can get, and 2nd rounders have a small chance at ever playing in the NHL on a regular basis. - Letterkenney
I am not sure that is true. But 2nds also have value in making trades or packaging them to move up in a draft.
I still will contend I think Walker is still moved. Seeler I think they want to keep at their price. And I could see them using cap space to facilitate a deal and acquire picks
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Agreed. I'm thinking it's better to keep Walker/Seeler than sell them too low if they intend to make the PO's. Then, let them walk at the end of the year if they want too much money. Either way, they get them for fair prices on shorter term deals or they get some salary cap relief. Personally, I'd like to see them traded to stock draft assets for future use, but there can be a win/win from the Flyer's perspective. This is particularly true in light of the fact that a 2nd is probably the best they can get, and 2nd rounders have a small chance at ever playing in the NHL on a regular basis. - Letterkenney
getting nothing has a zero chance. small > zero
now based on what "jonesy" said and the fact their is no rebuild you keep them. |
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Tomahawk
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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This is particularly true in light of the fact that a 2nd is probably the best they can get, and 2nd rounders have a small chance at ever playing in the NHL on a regular basis. - Letterkenney
It's like 20-25% that a 2nd-rounder pans out, depending on your criteria of success. That's not really low odds.
Those odds are probably better than the Flyers winning many games in the POs. |
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WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 04.27.2018
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But if it's a rebuild, does it matter?
I think Campbell has a little more track record then Peterson. Didn't Peterson get paid off one strong season? Not sure so correct me if I am wrong. - J35Bacher
Campbell has 3 years left on his contract. Flyers would be looking for a rental.
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TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Duncan, BC Joined: 12.06.2019
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I rather deal walker separately. Unless it id real good value coming back.
Not sure that package does it. Broberg is more of a suspect than prospect. No issue taking a chance with him mind you. - hello it's me 2050
Not true, numerous sources from TSN, Sportsnet and The Hockey News have covered Broberg and his level of play. By all accounts, he is more than ready to be a regular NHLer. |
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Not true, numerous sources from TSN, Sportsnet and The Hockey News have covered Broberg and his level of play. By all accounts, he is more than ready to be a regular NHLer. - TheFreak
coming up on 5 years for his draft. no longer a prospect to me. Well then he has been on the market for many months. unless they are getting bad offers doesn't seem much interest. |
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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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coming up on 5 years for his draft. no longer a prospect to me. Well then he has been on the market for many months. unless they are getting bad offers doesn't seem much interest. - hello it's me 2050
Maybe it could be another Coburn deal. Give the guy a regular role and see if he can thrive. He is only 22 so you acquire another youngish defender to build with York and Drysdale. |
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Maybe it could be another Coburn deal. Give the guy a regular role and see if he can thrive. He is only 22 so you acquire another youngish defender to build with York and Drysdale. - J35Bacher
could be. not against acquiring him at all. at a solid cost. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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priceless! I wasn't asking for me, I was asking for a friend. - jd250
When are you ever going to get serious with yourself and this sport?
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Agreed. I'm thinking it's better to keep Walker/Seeler than sell them too low if they intend to make the PO's. Then, let them walk at the end of the year if they want too much money. Either way, they get them for fair prices on shorter term deals or they get some salary cap relief. Personally, I'd like to see them traded to stock draft assets for future use, but there can be a win/win from the Flyer's perspective. This is particularly true in light of the fact that a 2nd is probably the best they can get, and 2nd rounders have a small chance at ever playing in the NHL on a regular basis. - Letterkenney
Honestly, when the Flyers stop ridiculously overvaluing just making the playoffs, maybe they'll get somewhere. I do know that a 2nd round pick has a substantial greater odds of playing in the NHL on a regular basis over not having a pick.
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roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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You make up nicknames for people based on TV shows that haven't been in the public lexicon in 30+ years yet being called a boomer is lame. Well at least it's current. - Flyerz74
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JESPER FAST AND ANTTI RAANTA - BINGO!
No thanks. |
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roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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One of the worse trades in Philly history. For what? 12 games? - TheFreak
What can I say. I liked Adam Oates. |
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Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA Joined: 03.20.2020
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I am not sure that is true. But 2nds also have value in making trades or packaging them to move up in a draft.
I still will contend I think Walker is still moved. Seeler I think they want to keep at their price. And I could see them using cap space to facilitate a deal and acquire picks - J35Bacher
Did you see where I wrote "Personally, I'd like to see them traded to stock draft assets for future use,..."? |
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Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA Joined: 03.20.2020
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It's like 20-25% that a 2nd-rounder pans out, depending on your criteria of success. That's not really low odds.
Those odds are probably better than the Flyers winning many games in the POs. - Tomahawk
Like I said in the post, I'd rather they trade them and stock draft picks as future assets, but I can also see it from the Flyer's perspective. |
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I've spent the last couple months super agitated by posters (on all boards) and podcasters consistently hammering on the "same old flyers brass" and "I guess the rebuild is over" poop. The whole time I was waiting for this deadline (and off-season) to circle back and enjoy the crow buffet. I REALLY LIKE Danny and Keith Jones as dudes. Keith Jones is legit one of my favorite people related to Philadelphia sports. When they all continued to double down on the fact they were gonna keep their eye on the prize and build this team the right way, I wanted to believe them SO MUCH.
I've been a Flyers fan for a long time, and while i've been frustrated I've never truly felt betrayed before. I know the trade deadline isn't the ONLY place to make moves for the future, but if they not only fail to get interesting assets at the deadline, but also RESIGN benign players for larger than necessary contracts....i'm gonna feel cheated and lied to. Fingers crossed DB comes through with a 4th QTR comeback on Friday.
JIC....anyone with Photoshop skills able to make a PHILADELPHIA LIARS logo? |
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Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA Joined: 03.20.2020
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Honestly, when the Flyers stop ridiculously overvaluing just making the playoffs, maybe they'll get somewhere. I do know that a 2nd round pick has a substantial greater odds of playing in the NHL on a regular basis over not having a pick. - MJL
I don't disagree. That's why I wrote "Personally, I'd like to see them traded to stock draft assets for future use,..." |
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Agreed. I'm thinking it's better to keep Walker/Seeler than sell them too low if they intend to make the PO's. Then, let them walk at the end of the year if they want too much money. Either way, they get them for fair prices on shorter term deals or they get some salary cap relief. Personally, I'd like to see them traded to stock draft assets for future use, but there can be a win/win from the Flyer's perspective. This is particularly true in light of the fact that a 2nd is probably the best they can get, and 2nd rounders have a small chance at ever playing in the NHL on a regular basis. - Letterkenney
True but you can take the 2nd from this year and potential 2nd from a Walker trade, package those 2 2nds and try to move into the late first.
Wasn't too long ago the Flyers did just that and that late 1st rounder was Konecny. |
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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No thanks. - Pelle31Forever
too late no take backsies |
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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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When are you ever going to get serious with yourself and this sport? - MJL
When you learn to lighten up and have more fun. |
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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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Honestly, when the Flyers stop ridiculously overvaluing just making the playoffs, maybe they'll get somewhere. I do know that a 2nd round pick has a substantial greater odds of playing in the NHL on a regular basis over not having a pick. - MJL
Making the playoffs in extremely valuable when a team is trying to build a winning culture and develop their younger players. I don't think Briere is over-valuing making the playoffs to a point that will stop him from making deals for the future of this team. If it did then I would say the Flyers are over-valuing making the playoffs this year and are back to short sighted thinking. |
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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Making the playoffs in extremely valuable when a team is trying to build a winning culture and develop their younger players. I don't think Briere is over-valuing making the playoffs to a point that will stop him from making deals for the future of this team. If it did then I would say the Flyers are over-valuing making the playoffs this year and are back to short sighted thinking. - jd250
You don't have enough younger players on the roster yet.
Like, guys drafted in 2017 aren't "Young" anymore. They're in their prime. |
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