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hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 7 @ 2:29 PM ET
Seems like an easy decision, not withstanding the locker room challenge the AVs noted. I can see them sending him down to send a message and letting the group who has been playing a chance to prove they can win. That said, it should be a short leash, they lose a game or two, make the change.

I want the Flyers in the playoffs, if I am betting, they are not but go for it.

- wcorvette

he is a vet who is gonna get paid regardless. what message you sending?
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Mar 7 @ 2:29 PM ET
I know they have no chance to win a Cup this year, but holding a playoff spot all year and punting it rubs me the wrong way. I want to see playoff hockey, regardless if it’s only one round. I understand the trade. A first round pick is a good return for Walker, even with Johansen attached. (I’d play him)
- PLindbergh31

Another player Torts went all LaZy HaYes on.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 2:31 PM ET
Maybe he’s that bad of a guy, who knows. It really can’t hurt to try him in the lineup. If your team is that fragile that he would ruin the room, you didn’t have a strong room to begin with.
- ClaudeFather


Right, who knows. I agree completely. How can one guy ruin a good room? If he becomes an issue, they can remove him. If he clears waivers, they can send him down without having to put him on waivers for 30 day and or 10 games. If he's such a bad guy, why would you want him with your AHL team and your developing players?
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:35 PM ET
Antti Raanta on waivers. I wonder if the Flyers put in a claim?
- MBFlyerfan


The hell happened to that guy's game?
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 7 @ 2:42 PM ET
Well if he’s buried in LHV I think it saves like 1.3 mil of cap space. So maybe this is to preserve cap space through the TDL just in case there’s another trade. Just a guess. Also apparently he doesn’t see eye to eye with Toets.
- mikeyo27

interesting thought.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 7 @ 2:43 PM ET
like RR
- hello it's me 2050

Come on .. $2,.7M is much easier to move vs. $5.1M
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 7 @ 2:44 PM ET
Seeler's contract is for 4 years. Having a NTC for the first two years doesn't make the other two years disappear. Seeler does not have a NMC. He has a NTC. A player with a NTC can demoted at any time.
- MJL

for the first two years. After that the Flyers have flexibility.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 7 @ 2:45 PM ET
So in order to get a first round pick that will be in the range of 26-30, they hold their nose and take on a player they have no interest in playing? More dead money.
- PLindbergh31

My understanding is the Flyers could have got Colorado's 2024 1st round pick much easier, but the Flyers valued their 2025 1st round pick, because they wanted two picks next season and the 2025 draft is projected to be a deeper draft, thus the price went up.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 7 @ 2:46 PM ET
for the first two years. After that the Flyers have flexibility.
- jd250

your justification defending this organization cracks me up.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 7 @ 2:47 PM ET
your justification defending this organization cracks me up.
- hello it's me 2050

Its fact, not justification! After two years the Flyers have full flexibility with Seeler, so I look at this as a 2 year deal which I am fine with.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 7 @ 2:48 PM ET
Antti Raanta on waivers. I wonder if the Flyers put in a claim?
- MBFlyerfan

He's cheap, I would.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 7 @ 2:50 PM ET
Its fact, not justification! After two years the Flyers have full flexibility with Seeler, so I look at this as a 2 year deal which I am fine with.
- jd250

what is a fact is it is a 4 year deal. your facts are distorted.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Mar 7 @ 2:52 PM ET
I do see a trend, but Drysdale is still very young. I have seen many players his age get injured earlier in their careers, but as they got bigger, stronger, and developed better nutritional and work-out habits, go on to have long and healthy careers. It's just too early to label Drysdale as injury prone.
- jd250


Please name a few..I am curious as to the extent of the injuries..season enders?

Just curious.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 7 @ 2:52 PM ET
My understanding is the Flyers could have got Colorado's 2024 1st round pick much easier, but the Flyers valued their 2025 1st round pick, because they wanted two picks next season and the 2025 draft is projected to be a deeper draft, thus the price went up.
- jd250


My understanding? Is that a new way of saying I have no clue, but if I had to guess?
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 7 @ 2:54 PM ET
The pick is top 10 protected. So if the pick is in the top 10, it is moved to 2026. Very simple concept.
- ClaudeFather


There’s the lack of maturity again. By the way, keep calling MJL Cliff. As if you understand there reference. It’s adorable.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 7 @ 2:57 PM ET
There’s the lack of maturity again. By the way, keep calling MJL Cliff. As if you understand their reference. It’s adorable.
- roenick97

What character from cheers would you be?
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 7 @ 2:57 PM ET
I know they have no chance to win a Cup this year, but holding a playoff spot all year and punting it rubs me the wrong way. I want to see playoff hockey, regardless if it’s only one round. I understand the trade. A first round pick is a good return for Walker, even with Johansen attached. (I’d play him)
- PLindbergh31

My feelings exactly.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 7 @ 2:57 PM ET
What character from cheers would you be?
- ClaudeFather

You tell me. Big fan?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 7 @ 2:58 PM ET
There’s the lack of maturity again. By the way, keep calling MJL Cliff. As if you understand there reference. It’s adorable.
- roenick97

And the lack of any knowledge is very apparent from you, do you think you understand the top 10 condition now?
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 7 @ 2:59 PM ET
And the lack of any knowledge is very apparent from you, do you think you understand the top 10 condition now?
- ClaudeFather

Ohh, I don’t have Claudefather time. I actually have to work and when I’m done work, I have more obligations. Crazy, right?

Why didn’t you type this under the original response?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 7 @ 3:00 PM ET
Its fact, not justification! After two years the Flyers have full flexibility with Seeler, so I look at this as a 2 year deal which I am fine with.
- jd250

They can send him down any time in the four years if he turns into a pumpkin and save a little bit on the cap.

I have also seen many players waive their NTC if the destination is favorable. I don’t think the 4 years is overly problematic though would have preferred less.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 7 @ 3:02 PM ET
Ohh, I don’t have Claudefather time. I actually have to work and when I’m done work, I have more obligations. Crazy, right?

Why didn’t you type this under the original response?

- roenick97

You’re on here significantly more than I am bub. Sorry your comprehension is so inept.
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Mar 7 @ 3:03 PM ET
A strong locker room is created by being a competitive team. By winning. When a team struggles, frustration seeps in and causes issues. It's human nature. Just build a team with talent and skill with quality people and the room takes care of itself. At least for a period of time. It ebbs and flows with the team.
- MJL


Wrong, its more than that. The basis of a strong locker room is the personalities and how they handle adversity has a lot to do with it. Winning helps. but theres a lot more to it than that. I dont expect you to understand
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 3:04 PM ET
for the first two years. After that the Flyers have flexibility.
- jd250



You're trying to somehow justify or let yourself off the hook by pretending due to the NTC, that it somehow turns the contract from 4 years to 2 years. So you don't have to criticize it based on your previous opinion that you only wanted two years for Seeler. That is illogical and simply fantasy. Why does a player like Seeler get any trade protection anyway?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 7 @ 3:05 PM ET
My understanding is the Flyers could have got Colorado's 2024 1st round pick much easier, but the Flyers valued their 2025 1st round pick, because they wanted two picks next season and the 2025 draft is projected to be a deeper draft, thus the price went up.
- jd250


Do you have any information to back this up?
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