Why Biere didnt require them to retain is puzzling
- Bayareaflyer

We have a cheap owner. He ain't retaining sh!t.

RYJO could have been had for nothing….no takers. Maybe, just maybe he’s done.
- landros 2

Exactly! This has nothing to do with Torts. The guy is finished in this league, plain and simple.

You’re off base here
- Just5

Based on what?

IMO, this is a balance they are willing to strike. Gained some assets, sent a UFA off, focus on plan for draft and offseason and give the team the best shot in the playoffs this year.

For me, it still remains to be seen what decisions they make here, but for all the guys that have worked hard and as a team and grew this year, it does benefit them to have more veterans to support them for the playoffs. Guys like attard and Ginning might have to wait their turn until next year.

You and others may not agree with that approach but that’s how I see it. I’m indifferent on it. Not necessarily thrilled with that plan but I don’t think it’s something that completely abandons the rebuild since it will only be for the stretch run here.
- funmaster18

Ginning by all reports is going to leave and go back to Europe. I'm not big on Attard but he did okay last night. He should play more. See if there is a chance for him.

You're wrong. You don't know my position. You're also not a spokesman for anyone. I'll give you a perfect example of how I don't think it's just about playing all young players. I'm one of the few people who wanted Couturier re-signed and not traded. One of the biggest reasons why is that the Flyers are weak at center. I wanted him to take on a lot of the heavy lifting at the center spot, so players who weren't ready for that workload. Weren't elevated to a role they weren't ready for, such as Frost and potentially hurting their development. Plus his ability to make players around him better when healthy. A player like that greatly helps with the rebuild.
As far as Brink is concerned. As a rebuilding team, it makes zero sense to scratch Brink while playing players like Deslauriers and Atkinson.
Yes, if the team is making the playoffs, we want all the young players to get the experience of it. So why trade for Johnson? LOL. You're going against your own criticism of my position. Yes, I want them all to get the experience if they make the playoffs. Including Zamula and Brink. Even Ginning and Attard if neccessary. So what is your issue?


One move does not make a rebuild. The Flyers wanted to re-sign Walker but at the right price. They traded Walker because they didn't want to meet his price.
- MJL

Thank you for admitting you fully wanted coots resigned. And as it was pointed out mma y times back then the reasons you wanted him resigned could’ve EASILY been filled with a cheap low term vet signing. That there was NO REASON to give coots that horrible deal.

Thank you for proving how dumb the signing was and those that wanted it.


And exactly how has it turned out so far. Missing 2 years and doing poop this year? So he hasn’t even done what you wanted him signed for. Laughable.

You were wrong and still are wrong.

Ginning is have a down year compared to last. He probably needles more seasoning. Plus i heard he may go back home
- WhiskeyMan

Ginning may very well need more seasoning. However last night, he didn't look afraid. He played aggressively and physical. Very small sample but I'd like to see more. Maybe give him a taste. Show him that he is in the picture. Maybe he doesn't leave.

IMO, this is a balance they are willing to strike. Gained some assets, sent a UFA off, focus on plan for draft and offseason and give the team the best shot in the playoffs this year.

For me, it still remains to be seen what decisions they make here, but for all the guys that have worked hard and as a team and grew this year, it does benefit them to have more veterans to support them for the playoffs. Guys like attard and Ginning might have to wait their turn until next year.

You and others may not agree with that approach but that’s how I see it. I’m indifferent on it. Not necessarily thrilled with that plan but I don’t think it’s something that completely abandons the rebuild since it will only be for the stretch run here.
- funmaster18

Really really well said. I couldn’t articulate this. I don’t love it, but I also don’t hate it. They clearly felt they owed it to the players to at least give them a chance. Still left with a first.

Why? Because the Flyers got a depth center and a depth defenseman to reward this group for having a great season and playing their butts off? You really don't have a clue what you are talking about. All they gave up was Allison (who was never going to play for the Flyers) and a 4th round pick, which has what, a 3% of even making the NHL? Think for a moment, why would Briere go out and get a RHS defenseman at the deadline? The answer is because he knows Risto and Drysdale will not be back this year from their injuries. There is nothing wrong with what the Flyers are doing. Nothing at all. Briere said he would do as much yesterday if something came up.
- jd250

Your first mistake is thinking its about rewarding this group. It's not and it doesn't do that. If anyone needs to be rewarded, it's all of the players who have played all year in the organization. Brink and Zamula. Even AHL players who they can play. It doesn't matter that Drysdale and Ristolainen won't be back. It's not about what they gave up. It's about what they're doing. No reason to bring in another washed up vet. A team committed to the rebuild doesn't do that. They did it because winning now is more important to them.

And on another note. There was no chance in hell, that even if he was healthy, that Ristolainen was getting traded at the deadline. Was never going to happen.

He's a good player. Not saying the Flyers should keep him beyond this season but he will improve forward depth.
- jd250

If he is a good player, why wouldn't the Flyers want to keep him? Reality is you don't have a clue about the player. Other than what you heard.

Alright guys, I’m out. Enjoy your Friday night.

If they could get two more points tomorrow night that would really be something.

Thank you for admitting you fully wanted coots resigned. And as it was pointed out mma y times back then the reasons you wanted him resigned could’ve EASILY been filled with a cheap low term vet signing. That there was NO REASON to give coots that horrible deal.

Thank you for proving how dumb the signing was and those that wanted it.


And exactly how has it turned out so far. Missing 2 years and doing poop this year? So he hasn’t even done what you wanted him signed for. Laughable.

You were wrong and still are wrong.
- Stayin alive

Something is seriously wrong with you. I have never denied or backtracked off of the opinion that I wanted Couturier re-signed.

There isn't a player that can easily be signed that do what Couturier can do. You're wrong.

Couturier has been a big part of the teams resurgence and why they're in a playoff spot. Without him, it would've never happened.

By the way, according to your rule that you NEVER EVER, LOL, sign a player at 30 to an 8 year deal unless he is a hall of fame player. The reigning Cup champions just traded for a 30 year old player that is in the first year of a 8 year deal with a 8.1M AAV. Thomas Hertl, who is not a hall of fame player. I guess they aren't aware of your rules. You haven't got the first clue.

Gurianov Heard he is meeting team in Tampa, not going right to Lehigh. kind of interesting.

DOes anyone know if Gurianov was used on PP in Dallas?
- J35Bacher

He did. Has a nice one-timer from he right side.

Why do some assume Laughton is going to be traded in the offseason? He is a player the team loves.
- StepfordSam

Basically can consider him a franchise player at this point.

If a team offers a first, he is gone.
- WhiskeyMan

Didn't a team already offer DB a 1st for Laughts and he declined?

Didn't a team already offer DB a 1st for Laughts and he declined?
- Tomahawk

Rumored the Blues did but never really confirmed

Really really well said. I couldn’t articulate this. I don’t love it, but I also don’t hate it. They clearly felt they owed it to the players to at least give them a chance. Still left with a first.
- Flyers1218

- funmaster18

Why do they have to bring in washed up vets and also play vets that have no future over younger players to give the team a chance?

Your first mistake is thinking its about rewarding this group. It's not and it doesn't do that. If anyone needs to be rewarded, it's all of the players who have played all year in the organization. Brink and Zamula. Even AHL players who they can play. It doesn't matter that Drysdale and Ristolainen won't be back. It's not about what they gave up. It's about what they're doing. No reason to bring in another washed up vet. A team committed to the rebuild doesn't do that. They did it because winning now is more important to them.

And on another note. There was no chance in hell, that even if he was healthy, that Ristolainen was getting traded at the deadline. Was never going to happen.
- MJL

We don’t yet know who sits for Gurianov. And with Johnson, as of today a player that likely won’t be here next year anyway will have to sit. At worst, two players have to sit. Maybe it ends up being one, or none, if Johnson doesn’t play well or brought in for insurance.

I don’t think it’s fair to say they aren’t committed to a rebuild based on the moves they made. Their rebuild strategy goes beyond this season and you don’t have to play all youth for it to qualify.

Nic D over anyone? Horrible decision and makes me shake my head.

Erik Johnson over Attard or Ginning when you already have Zamula and York in, is more about not starting to lose game and be less competitive all because of injuries. They’ve played hard to get where they are and I think Briere is trying to keep them afloat to get into the playoffs since they earned it. He’s not reversing course to win it all this year.

And again, I understand anyone disagreeing with those decisions, but I don’t think that translates into not being committed to a rebuild. We aren’t dealing in absolutes.

I do wish, however, regardless of the moves they made that Nic D would take a seat. Staal can be their 7th as well for now to let Attard or Ginning to stay in the lineup. Once Seeler is healthy, see who is playing well and make your choice from there.

Why do they have to bring in washed up vets and also play vets that have no future over younger players to give the team a chance?
- MJL

I just replied to another one of your posts, but I agree with you generally. If they brought in older vets to play along with guys like Nic D or even Staal, it’s a bit more frustrating for me.

My hope is this enables them to sit some one like Nic D that brings absolutely nothing. If he plays, this new guy plays and Brink is still scratched, I will be frustrated for sure.

Well two things I know to be true. People lie, and people lie all the time.
Jones did the radio tour on 97.5 and WIP and lied through his teeth. If you listened he said multiple times the playoffs were not the goal. Obviously that wasn’t true.
Chicago tanked last year for Bedard, and this year again for the number one pick and I suspect are already keeping a locker ready for Mesi next year. The Flyers? Content drafting scrubs.
Ask yourself this. How many number one centers and D men are drafted at 17, 30?
How many get traded for those late picks?
Five decades and counting.

Well two things I know to be true. People lie, and people lie all the time.
Jones did the radio tour on 97.5 and WIP and lied through his teeth. If you listened he said multiple times the playoffs were not the goal. Obviously that wasn’t true.
Chicago tanked last year for Bedard, and this year again for the number one pick and I suspect are already keeping a locker ready for Mesi next year. The Flyers? Content drafting scrubs.
Ask yourself this. How many number one centers and D men are drafted at 17, 30?
How many get traded for those late picks?
Five decades and counting.
- TEAGLE

One thing I will say, I truly believe the playoffs were not the goal this year (realistically) until they started and kept playing well and found themselves where they are the week of the trade deadline.

I'm not him, but let me give it a shot. Poehling is fine and relatively young. Did you see the game last night? Who is he really holding back at this time? Guys like Atkinson and ND should be moved out of the lineup for younger guys. The Seeler deal should have been 3M AVV for 3 years. They gave him one year too many, but they can probably eat the last year of that contract if needed.
- Phillywhiteout

Point is they are falling in love with their own players

Danny Briere on Scott Laughton:

"I did listen. We had a lot of teams interested in him. Not good enough for us to let a player like that go that's critical to the development of the locker room."

Locker room? Huh. Someone show him stats that show games are won on the ice, not the locker room. Just ask G and Jake

I haven't read any timeline about Risto's return. At least with Drysdale, there is a chance he can be back this season. After the Ellis sitiation, I'm leery about the vagueness of Risto's timeline to return.

Basically can consider him a franchise player at this point.
- Tomahawk

Yea, Laughton is a trooper. And versetaile as the potato 🥔