why'd you think allison was a good fit
- 2Real

I never said he was. Clearly not part of the plan. But why even bother with a lazy Russian?

1. Being in the playoff atmosphere is how players begin to gain experience. Taking some shifts but if it's short lived as you suggest, then it could easily be crushing to lose 4 in a row to a young player especially if they made some crucial mistake that led to losing. Or how about the pressure of high stakes hockey? Easy to let it overwhelm you and end up making mistakes. I don't disagree that they need some playing experience but better to insulate.


- Aaron_85

If losing a playoff series crushes a young player. Then chances are that he doesn't have the mental fortitude to be a good player if he is that fragile. Mistakes are how a player learns and is part of gaining experience. If you insulate a player, how is he ever going to get better. You get better in almost everything from failure and learning from failure.

2. That's on you bro. That's how YOU present yourself if me, and the DMs I got while being a mod about you, indicate. You can blame everyone else but maybe look in a mirror and reflect on yourself. That's a narcissistic viewpoint (which proves my original comment correct about you) that you'd just blame everyone else. It isn't healthy. Take some accountability.
I have no issue having conversations, ones with you just gotta be short because you'll beat a dead horse into glue to ENSURE your point is the last one anyone thinks about.


- Aaron_85

No, it's on you. You instigated this part of the conversation that was uncalled for. You can criticize my opinion all you want. It's not narcissistic at all to say that I'm not responsible for your view point. You posted a comment that was not necessary. Stop being a hypocrite and and practice what you preach and be accountable for yourself. I'm definitely stubborn and argumentative. I know that about myself. However you have to ability to not respond and walk away. Again, how you can be accountable. I exercise that ability every single day

I'm no longer a mod because of the incessant whining you did in DMs.
- Aaron_85

You're being a hypocrite and being narcissistic by blaming someone else for your failure. You're not a moderator anymore because you couldn't handle it and sucked at it. You thought you were better than everyone else and you lacked integrity. Have some accountability for your failure.

Your first mistake is thinking its about rewarding this group. It's not and it doesn't do that. If anyone needs to be rewarded, it's all of the players who have played all year in the organization. Brink and Zamula. Even AHL players who they can play. It doesn't matter that Drysdale and Ristolainen won't be back. It's not about what they gave up. It's about what they're doing. No reason to bring in another washed up vet. A team committed to the rebuild doesn't do that. They did it because winning now is more important to them.

And on another note. There was no chance in hell, that even if he was healthy, that Ristolainen was getting traded at the deadline. Was never going to happen.
- MJL

You're looking at things from a fan's perspective. We know watching this team that though they play hard and will be a hard out if they make the playoffs, they lack the high end talent needed to make a serious playoff run. But players don't look at things that way. Players want to play hockey and believe in themselves, and thus believe they can win against any team at any time. This is how they are wired and this is partially why they have made it to the NHL. Players that don't believe usually don't make it past high school, and I am an example of that. So as fans we know this team needs to rebuild and think towards to future, and this management also knows it, but players don't care about rebuilds, they just want to play and win. Getting to the playoffs is the goal of every hockey team no matter what the circumstances. This Flyers team is good and is in good position to make the playoffs, so why not go for it? The Flyers did not give up anything for the future, did they? They still have 10 draft picks this year, and the players they picked up are depth players that will be off the books at the end of this season. This is a weak draft so whether the Flyers pick 15th or 25th really will not matter at all also. And yes, whether you want to believe it or not, playing meaningful games down the stretch and into a playoff series is HUGE for player development. Think about it, how many players on this roster have experienced playoff hockey? Maybe 7 players? This is big for players like Brink, Foerster, Frost, Farabee, etc.

You're looking at things from a fan's perspective. We know watching this team that though they play hard and will be a hard out if they make the playoffs, they lack the high end talent needed to make a serious playoff run. But players don't look at things that way. Players want to play hockey and believe in themselves, and thus believe they can win against any team at any time. This is how they are wired and this is partially why they have made it to the NHL. Players that don't believe usually don't make it past high school, and I am an example of that. So as fans we know this team needs to rebuild and think towards to future, and this management also knows it, but players don't care about rebuilds, they just want to play and win. Getting to the playoffs is the goal of every hockey team no matter what the circumstances. This Flyers team is good and is in good position to make the playoffs, so why not go for it? The Flyers did not give up anything for the future, did they? They still have 10 draft picks this year, and the players they picked up are depth players that will be off the books at the end of this season. This is a weak draft so whether the Flyers pick 15th or 25th really will not matter at all also. And yes, whether you want to believe it or not, playing meaningful games down the stretch and into a playoff series is HUGE for player development. Think about it, how many players on this roster have experienced playoff hockey? Maybe 7 players? This is big for players like Brink, Foerster, Frost, Farabee, etc.
- jd250

Your first sentence was claiming that I'm looking at things from a fan's perspective. Then followed up with " we know watching this team". I stopped reading at that point with that level of stupidity. No reason to read further.

I thought this place was a joke to you and you were going to go away forever because you didn't need it? Guess addictions to being a bumhole on the internet is too good.

Get out of your moms basement. Spring is here! (So will Flyer playoff hockey!)
- Aaron_85

I live in nice size house shorty. one you will never have.

still spewing nonsense. have you had any recent meltdowns on the leafs board recently? shocked you haven't ended it yet.

I have a question for you. How do players actually get playoff experience? The Flyers playoff journey this season, if they make it, is likely to be a short one. Not enough games to negatively affect a player and crush his confidence in my opinion. The Flyers have a coach who like most coaches, favors veterans but with Tortorella, it's to an extreme. Giving him more options to scratch young players instead of developing them and getting them experience. Which is what should happen on a team that is supposedly rebuilding.
- MJL

Have you looked at the standings lately? The Islanders have two games in hand and have a cupcake schedule, while the Flyers 8 of their next 9 games play Boston twice, Tampa, Toronto twice, the Rangers, Florida yet again and Carolina. The Flyers are already playing playoff games.

that is 100% false
- hello it's me 2050

I'm going with the first guy is right.
Mostly because you think differently.
How often were you beaten as a child?

Your first sentence was claiming that I'm looking at things from a fan's perspective. Then followed up with " we know watching this team". I stopped reading at that point with that level of stupidity. No reason to read further.
- MJL

I doubt that is true, but if it if is true, you are either ignorant or you really can't argue about what I posted, it simply was just too factual and made too much sense for even you.

If losing a playoff series crushes a young player. Then chances are that he doesn't have the mental fortitude to be a good player if he is that fragile. Mistakes are how a player learns and is part of gaining experience. If you insulate a player, how is he ever going to get better. You get better in almost everything from failure and learning from failure.



No, it's on you. You instigated this part of the conversation that was uncalled for. You can criticize my opinion all you want. It's not narcissistic at all to say that I'm not responsible for your view point. You posted a comment that was not necessary. Stop being a hypocrite and and practice what you preach and be accountable for yourself. I'm definitely stubborn and argumentative. I know that about myself. However you have to ability to not respond and walk away. Again, how you can be accountable. I exercise that ability every single day




You're being a hypocrite and being narcissistic by blaming someone else for your failure. You're not a moderator anymore because you couldn't handle it and sucked at it. You thought you were better than everyone else and you lacked integrity. Have some accountability for your failure.
- MJL

I agree with you on all counts

I'm going with the first guy is right.
Mostly because you think differently.
How often were you beaten as a child?
- Pompous

when it was warranted, why?

You're looking at things from a fan's perspective. We know watching this team that though they play hard and will be a hard out if they make the playoffs, they lack the high end talent needed to make a serious playoff run. But players don't look at things that way. Players want to play hockey and believe in themselves, and thus believe they can win against any team at any time. This is how they are wired and this is partially why they have made it to the NHL. Players that don't believe usually don't make it past high school, and I am an example of that. So as fans we know this team needs to rebuild and think towards to future, and this management also knows it, but players don't care about rebuilds, they just want to play and win. Getting to the playoffs is the goal of every hockey team no matter what the circumstances. This Flyers team is good and is in good position to make the playoffs, so why not go for it? The Flyers did not give up anything for the future, did they? They still have 10 draft picks this year, and the players they picked up are depth players that will be off the books at the end of this season. This is a weak draft so whether the Flyers pick 15th or 25th really will not matter at all also. And yes, whether you want to believe it or not, playing meaningful games down the stretch and into a playoff series is HUGE for player development. Think about it, how many players on this roster have experienced playoff hockey? Maybe 7 players? This is big for players like Brink, Foerster, Frost, Farabee, etc.
- jd250

so you had the talent just didn't believe?

here is the thing, the flyers are clearly looking to make the playoffs. so in that sense the EJ deal makes sense and no issue with it as that is the route they are taking.

just dont give me this rebuilding cap when many knew/know it was BS.

Pick a path (right or wrong) just don't pull another Ronald Hextall lack of plan.

I said months ago attard and ginning are not in the future plans. they have probably already made that determination. could one or both surprise and grab a spot? possibly though they likely won get that shot if all are somewhat healthy. Looking at the long game I would rather them play to find out 100%. You still need to have cheap contracts in your lineup. Definitely on the bottom pair and 4th line. Flyers seem adverse to this concept.
- hello it's me 2050

I need to see more of Ginning and Attard, but my first impression from the other night was mixed. I liked Ginning more from his size and physical aspect which I think the Flyers need right now, but I was concerned about the skating of both players. You have to skate well to be effective in the modern NHL and I have concerns about both. But need to see more.

Again, why can't a rebuilding team make the playoffs? Why does every rebuild need to look like Chicago or Buffalo?

so you had the talent just didn't believe?
- hello it's me 2050

I definitely had confidence issues looking back, but no, I didn't have the size or skating ability to get to the next level and I knew it. Still I enjoyed playing and have nice memories.

Have you looked at the standings lately? The Islanders have two games in hand and have a cupcake schedule, while the Flyers 8 of their next 9 games play Boston twice, Tampa, Toronto twice, the Rangers, Florida yet again and Carolina. The Flyers are already playing playoff games.
- jd250

No, they're not. The playoffs start in April. They're playing important games but not playoff games. The Islanders schedule is not a cupcake schedule. You're wrong.

I doubt that is true, but if it if is true, you are either ignorant or you really can't argue about what I posted, it simply was just too factual and made too much sense for even you.
- jd250

When you start out with that hypocrisy in the first two sentences when knowing your history and level of knowledge of the sport. Why would anyone continue reading further? I seriously doubt that there was a single fact in that nonsense. You don't know what a fact actually is.

I need to see more of Ginning and Attard, but my first impression from the other night was mixed. I liked Ginning more from his size and physical aspect which I think the Flyers need right now, but I was concerned about the skating of both players. You have to skate well to be effective in the modern NHL and I have concerns about both. But need to see more.

Again, why can't a rebuilding team make the playoffs? Why does every rebuild need to look like Chicago or Buffalo?
- jd250

They have 10 picks in the top 100 over the next two drafts. This is big for this organization.

I need to see more of Ginning and Attard, but my first impression from the other night was mixed. I liked Ginning more from his size and physical aspect which I think the Flyers need right now, but I was concerned about the skating of both players. You have to skate well to be effective in the modern NHL and I have concerns about both. But need to see more.

Again, why can't a rebuilding team make the playoffs? Why does every rebuild need to look like Chicago or Buffalo?
- jd250

Attard is a good skater. I don't know what you're looking at. Ginning was aggressive and up on the play. Neither player has a skating issue. It's like you copy and paste skating issues. It's your standard fall back.

Nobody has said that a rebuilding team can't or shouldn't make the playoffs. What is being said is that a rebuilding team shouldn't prioritize making the playoffs over rebuilding and playing the younger players.

I need to see more of Ginning and Attard, but my first impression from the other night was mixed. I liked Ginning more from his size and physical aspect which I think the Flyers need right now, but I was concerned about the skating of both players. You have to skate well to be effective in the modern NHL and I have concerns about both. But need to see more.

Again, why can't a rebuilding team make the playoffs? Why does every rebuild need to look like Chicago or Buffalo?
- jd250

their skating looked fine to me didn't see anything that stood out on a negative way. neither one may never be an nhl player. just would like to find out is all. clearly the flyers have another agenda.

being a 7/8 seed playoff team leaves you in medicrityville. if your rebuilding and make the playoffs fine no issue. flyers are not rebuilding. you put stock in everything they say when it suits your narrative. you leave all the other stuff out that shows/says they are not rebuilding.

this deadline did the flyers add any players/prospects for the future? outside the walker deal very unimpressed with danny boy.

They have 10 picks in the top 100 over the next two drafts. This is big for this organization.
- landros 2

seeing their draft record doesn't get me all warm and fuzzy!!

You're a complete and utter fool who can't read. Read what I posted. I did not post that Couturier is THE reason. I posted he is a big part of the reason for the teams resurgence.
I never posted that he has produced no offense while centering Farabee and Konecny. He had 35 points on the season and probably will get around 45-50 points. That's not no offense.
You've never had a clue of how good of a player Couturier is and never will. Couturier played almost 18 minutes against Florida in the win.

Why doesn't the team management of the Cup champions know about your NEVER EVER rule?

As usual, you don't have squat.
- MJL

He’s not a big part of anything. Laughable you think he is a BIG part.

If he’s such a BIG part why is he on the 4th line? Exactly….

It’s you who doesn’t understand… and his points are a byproduct of tk and others. He isn’t the driving force. Watch the tape. Again why is he on the 4th line.

I’m well aware of what a good player coots USED TO BE BUT NO LONGER IS


But by all means try to push this narrative to justify his extension until he’s no longer a flyer. It’s all you got. Just ignore the fact he’s currently playing on the 4th line which clearly proves otherwise.

seeing their draft record doesn't get me all warm and fuzzy!!
- hello it's me 2050

Last years looks very promising. I also see a couple of kids in the NCAA , Bump and McLaughlin that have produced really well to start their careers.

Denver Barkley whom they just signed has been the best player on the ice offensively for the London Knights all year. He is a bit smaller but reminds me of Konecny. Add in Bonk….who already was rock steady defensively as a RH d man….he’s taken off offensively this year and to me now is a legit high end prospect.

Obviously there’s Michkov…there’s the other two young goalies in Russia. Zavragin and Kolosov. Another kid to watch is Carson Bjarnson a G for the Brandon Wheatkings. Had a SO last night. I think he will be Canada’s go to guy next year for the world JR.s…he should have been there this year with Barkey….politics BS.

I’m actually liking their current pipeline and their last couple of drafts….

What the hell is going on with Detroit? Looks like we may not have to worry what the isles do
- Just5

They are struggling with Larkin out. He will be back soon and all will be well

He’s not a big part of anything. Laughable you think he is a BIG part.

If he’s such a BIG part why is he on the 4th line? Exactly….


- Stayin alive

He played 17:16 in the Florida game. Konecny and Tippett were the only forwards who played more.

It’s you who doesn’t understand… and his points are a byproduct of tk and others. He isn’t the driving force. Watch the tape. Again why is he on the 4th line.

I’m well aware of what a good player coots USED TO BE BUT NO LONGER IS


- Stayin alive

You've never been able to accurately assess Couturier as a player and it's the same here. Couturier is not a 4th line player. Couturier had a solid first half of the season and was a big part of the Flyers success. His play as dropped off some as he is reportedly banged up. He is still a good player.

But by all means try to push this narrative to justify his extension until he’s no longer a flyer. It’s all you got. Just ignore the fact he’s currently playing on the 4th line which clearly proves otherwise.
- Stayin Alive

He had the 3rd highest minutes played for forwards in the Florida game. His most frequent linemates in that game were Konecny, Foerster, Tippett and Farabee. That is the most current information. As usual, you're uninformed.

He played 17:16 in the Florida game. Konecny and Tippett were the only forwards who played more.



You've never been able to accurately assess Couturier as a player and it's the same here. Couturier is not a 4th line player. Couturier had a solid first half of the season and was a big part of the Flyers success. His play as dropped off some as he is reportedly banged up. He is still a good player.




He had the 3rd highest minutes played for forwards in the Florida game. His most frequent linemates in that game were Konecny, Foerster, Tippett and Farabee. That is the most current information. As usual, you're uninformed.
- MJL

Cool…. And his previous 5 games? 12 min 14 min 14 min 12 min 15 min.

Even torts said coots comments after a game were a f u to him.

I didn’t say he was a 4th line player I said he’s playing on the 4th line. Which is a fact.

He is essentially playing like all would’ve expected in last half of his extension but in the first half of the extension. GREAT!!!

And many people said that was a strong possibility yet you admittedly wanted him resigned.

And you still defend it. Just admit dude YOU WERE WRONG.

NOPE DOUBLE DOWN BECAUSE YOU CANT BE WRONG.

I thought this place was a joke to you and you were going to go away forever because you didn't need it? Guess addictions to being a bumhole on the internet is too good.

Get out of your moms basement. Spring is here! (So will Flyer playoff hockey!)
- Aaron_85