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BaronVonShiznit
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Desert Southwest
Joined: 09.07.2014

Mar 8 @ 2:14 PM ET
maybe rr JD and seeler are more hurt then lead to belive?

he isnt worth a 4th on the surface, dumb move.

- hello it's me 2050


That was my guess... that they're not expecting any of these guys to be back in the near future and picked up "insurance."
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 8 @ 2:14 PM ET
bottom line is I doubt they told him he will not play much. He will play unless he just flat out stinks. then maybe he comes out.

so comparing the 2 is a bad comparison.

- hello it's me 2050


You never know, you might fall in love with him in a couple games.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 8 @ 2:16 PM ET
So Gurianov for Allison and Erik Johnson for a 4th.

I hope Wade finds his way in Nashville.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 8 @ 2:18 PM ET
No goalies traded yet. If NJ doesn't get a goalie. I think they're toast this year.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Mar 8 @ 2:19 PM ET
No goalies traded yet. If NJ doesn't get a goalie. I think they're toast this year.
- MJL


They got Jake Allen
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Mar 8 @ 2:19 PM ET
No goalies traded yet. If NJ doesn't get a goalie. I think they're toast this year.
- MJL


Jersey got Allen out of Montreal..not much of an upgrade
26912 PP1
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 10.05.2023

Mar 8 @ 2:21 PM ET
You're wrong and if you actually knew my position. You wouldn't be so wrong.
- MJL
The entire free world knows your position. Thats never been a mystery to anyone. Every time a kid gets scratched that means, they are not rebuilding. We get it. Personally, I would rather have Jake Allen for a 3 than Johnson for a 4, but whatever. The flyers traded a good right puckmoving top 4 dman while in a playoff race which could seriously jep their chances of making it. They are rebuilding, but cant we at least try to make the playoffs now that we got our 1st rd pick? Dont we want Frost, Tippett, York, Foerster, Drysdale, Ersson and others in the playoffs?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 8 @ 2:21 PM ET
They got Jake Allen
- mickel25


I didn't see that listed. Today?
bradster
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.18.2009

Mar 8 @ 2:22 PM ET
Veteran who brings culture to the team and adds to the standard. Allows Tortorella to over play him and to scratch more young players?
- MJL


Imagine what the flyers record would be if Torts did all the coaching that you want him to do. Although most think he has this team overachieving, and no one predicted we would be in a playoff spot, pretty sure we would be undefeated or at least leading the division if he did what you want him to do. Leaving alot of points on the table.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 8 @ 2:22 PM ET
So Gurianov for Allison and Erik Johnson for a 4th.

I hope Wade finds his way in Nashville.

- MBFlyerfan


There we go, Gurianov fills out the playoff roster!


Farabee-Frost-Tippett
Gurianov-Couturier-Konecny
Foerster-Laughton-Brink
Cates-Poehling-Hathaway

Sanheim-Drysdale
York-Johnson
Seeler-Zamula

Ersson
Sandstrom

Scratched:
Johansen, Atkinson, Deslaurier
Staal, Ristolainen
Petersen
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Mar 8 @ 2:22 PM ET
I didn't see that listed. Today?
- MJL


Yep. 50% retained for a conditional 3rd round pick.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Mar 8 @ 2:22 PM ET
What am I missing? A 4th for Erik Johnson? And did the Flyers do Buffalo a favor by taking on that salary for the remainder of the year? So at the moment we have healthy:
Staal, Johnson, Sanheim, York, Zemula, Ginning & Attard. Seeler, JD and RR timetables for return unknown. So… who’s the current #7 or or or is Brink and Lyz gonna be benched for the 11/7 roster playoff push?
26912 PP1
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 10.05.2023

Mar 8 @ 2:24 PM ET
What am I missing? A 4th for Erik Johnson? And did the Flyers do Buffalo a favor by taking on that salary for the remainder of the year? So at the moment we have healthy:
Staal, Johnson, Sanheim, York, Zemula, Ginning & Attard. Seeler, JD and RR timetables for return unknown. So… who’s the current #7 or or or is Brink and Lyz gonna be benched for the 11/7 roster playoff push?

- mikeyo27
no we will be playing 9d and 9 o when all get healthy
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 8 @ 2:24 PM ET
Does Erik Johnson have years left on his deal? Not sure I get this one but maybe some other vet is headed out.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Mar 8 @ 2:25 PM ET
Just what the Flyers need, a 36 year old slug on the back end.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 8 @ 2:26 PM ET
Does Erik Johnson have years left on his deal? Not sure I get this one but maybe some other vet is headed out.
- hereticpride

Nope this season only.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Mar 8 @ 2:26 PM ET
Does Erik Johnson have years left on his deal? Not sure I get this one but maybe some other vet is headed out.
- hereticpride


He's a free agent after this season.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Mar 8 @ 2:27 PM ET
no we will be playing 9d and 9 o when all get healthy
- 26912 PP1


Ooooohhhhhhhh! Well now that makes sense 😂
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 8 @ 2:27 PM ET
Does Erik Johnson have years left on his deal? Not sure I get this one but maybe some other vet is headed out.
- hereticpride




UFA coming up. Strictly a depth signing IMO.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 8 @ 2:28 PM ET
The entire free world knows your position. Thats never been a mystery to anyone. Every time a kid gets scratched that means, they are not rebuilding. We get it. Personally, I would rather have Jake Allen for a 3 than Johnson for a 4, but whatever. The flyers traded a good right puckmoving top 4 dman while in a playoff race which could seriously jep their chances of making it. They are rebuilding, but cant we at least try to make the playoffs now that we got our 1st rd pick? Dont we want Frost, Tippett, York, Foerster, Drysdale, Ersson and others in the playoffs?
- 26912 PP1


You're wrong. You don't know my position. You're also not a spokesman for anyone. I'll give you a perfect example of how I don't think it's just about playing all young players. I'm one of the few people who wanted Couturier re-signed and not traded. One of the biggest reasons why is that the Flyers are weak at center. I wanted him to take on a lot of the heavy lifting at the center spot, so players who weren't ready for that workload. Weren't elevated to a role they weren't ready for, such as Frost and potentially hurting their development. Plus his ability to make players around him better when healthy. A player like that greatly helps with the rebuild.
As far as Brink is concerned. As a rebuilding team, it makes zero sense to scratch Brink while playing players like Deslauriers and Atkinson.
Yes, if the team is making the playoffs, we want all the young players to get the experience of it. So why trade for Johnson? LOL. You're going against your own criticism of my position. Yes, I want them all to get the experience if they make the playoffs. Including Zamula and Brink. Even Ginning and Attard if neccessary. So what is your issue?


One move does not make a rebuild. The Flyers wanted to re-sign Walker but at the right price. They traded Walker because they didn't want to meet his price.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Mar 8 @ 2:28 PM ET
What am I missing? A 4th for Erik Johnson? And did the Flyers do Buffalo a favor by taking on that salary for the remainder of the year? So at the moment we have healthy:
Staal, Johnson, Sanheim, York, Zemula, Ginning & Attard. Seeler, JD and RR timetables for return unknown. So… who’s the current #7 or or or is Brink and Lyz gonna be benched for the 11/7 roster playoff push?

- mikeyo27

I'll say this much, there is going to be some serious competition to get onto the blueline and stay there. Particularly, as guys get healthy. Popcorn may be required.
I assume that the Phantoms will need some guys to play, right?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 8 @ 2:29 PM ET
HAd to read up on Gurianov.

#12 overall in 2015.

A 20 goal season.

26 years old.

UFA after this season.

The kind of reclamation project that may fit the teams timeline.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 8 @ 2:30 PM ET
What the what!!? Why did they get another D? Depth C or G, sure. But what the what?!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 8 @ 2:30 PM ET
Need bodies to block shots. Larger ones preferable. Welcome EJ
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Mar 8 @ 2:31 PM ET
do you think they acquired Johnson to not play him? you think the coach would disrespect him like that? make him pack up to sit the bench?
- hello it's me 2050

Do they owe him an explanation? They traded for him, so he has no choice but to play the role that is mapped for him.

Staal is different as he was a free agent obviously.
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