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Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 13 @ 11:29 AM ET
No one on the planet hates Stevens more than I do, but comparing Rempe to him is just dumb. Yes, they both targeted heads. 100%, but Stevens did so in a different time and his hits were borderline. Also he could actually play the game at a very high level. Stevens could also fight. Rempe does absolutely nothing productive out there other than purposely trying to distro head injuries which the league supposedly was trying to migrate away from. Other teams are wasting their time trying to fight him. He now is getting too scared to fight, anyway. I would just run Panarin or Fox. That's the way you solve this nonsense.
- 26912 PP1

You couldn’t be more wrong

This is proof this is all bs because guys like you have seen nothing he’s done other than a few fights and a flying elbow. He has changed our 4th line into a line that can actually score by being in from of the goalie. It’s 4 times now and he had one puck that was a millimeter from crossing the goal line

Just watch the games he’s in, and EVERY TEAM and FAN would want him on their team which is most ironic part of all this
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Mar 13 @ 11:34 AM ET
That is a tough statement to back up. Are you his therapist, breaking client/doctor privilege?
Again, you guys revere Stevens for his big hits. The only difference between the Bastian hit and most of Stevens was that this one wasn't in the middle of the ice. Maybe Rempe will learn some control from it. Maybe Bastian will learn to keep his head up.

- Tonybere


First off, Scott Stevens last checked somebody in the 2003-2004 season. So that's 20 years ago. And big hits and elbowing someone in the head aren't the same thing.

Secondly, if you're going to do this type of crap plays and you are asked to go you go. That's the basic code. Rempe declining was a chickenpoop move. Not because I'm anyone's therapist but that what has been done for decades in hockey.

And lastly, the hit on Bastian wasn't legal which is why Rempe was penalized and ejected. It's not a matter of Bastian learning to keep his head up. That's just ridiculous.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 13 @ 11:52 AM ET
I think the only fair way to handle this is to permanently ban 8 random Rangers players
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

Mar 13 @ 11:53 AM ET
I think the only fair way to handle this is to permanently ban 8 random Rangers players
- eichiefs9


Should probably suspend Torts and fire Babcock just for good measure.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Mar 13 @ 11:56 AM ET
The worst part about this for Rempe is he is actually useful and not a plug. Not the typical big goon. If you think that it is most likely bc you're emotional about the player being injured.

Rempe being that big will have to learn how to hit in a safe manner. I do not think he was targeting Siegs head but he came in reckless and uncontrolled which is on him. I hope he changes the narrative so people can see his is a useful player on the 4th line and not just a dirty player or fighter. He needs to learn how to pick his spots better and better technique bc of his size.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Mar 13 @ 11:57 AM ET
First off, Scott Stevens last checked somebody in the 2003-2004 season. So that's 20 years ago. And big hits and elbowing someone in the head aren't the same thing.

Secondly, if you're going to do this type of crap plays and you are asked to go you go. That's the basic code. Rempe declining was a chickenpoop move. Not because I'm anyone's therapist but that what has been done for decades in hockey.

And lastly, the hit on Bastian wasn't legal which is why Rempe was penalized and ejected. It's not a matter of Bastian learning to keep his head up. That's just ridiculous.

- Queenie_5_hole


Rempe did not need to fight Macdermid in the beginning of the game. Could he have after the hit on Siegs, sure but the refs were not letting that happen
gmarz16
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick, NJ
Joined: 07.21.2013

Mar 13 @ 12:02 PM ET
Scott Steven, NHL Hall of Fame player. 1,635 games, 4...That's F-O-U-R elbowing penalties, or one every 408 games. Suspended twice for a total of four games in 22 seasons. Hit clean but hard. His hits would be penalized today, but he doesn't play today. For the ignorant fans calling Stevens dirty, does anyone remember Trouba hitting Meier in the playoffs last season? That was a Stevens hit. Defending rempe because he has to learn to keep his elbows down? Oh I guess he's new at hockey. He didn't learn that in Juniors or the AHL I guess.

Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 13 @ 12:09 PM ET
First off, Scott Stevens last checked somebody in the 2003-2004 season. So that's 20 years ago. And big hits and elbowing someone in the head aren't the same thing.

Secondly, if you're going to do this type of crap plays and you are asked to go you go. That's the basic code. Rempe declining was a chickenpoop move. Not because I'm anyone's therapist but that what has been done for decades in hockey.

And lastly, the hit on Bastian wasn't legal which is why Rempe was penalized and ejected. It's not a matter of Bastian learning to keep his head up. That's just ridiculous.

- Queenie_5_hole


Stevens "big hits" WERE elbows to the head. That was exactly my point.
Yes, I feel like Rempe should have answered the call after the hit, too. But, he didn't and he's been told repeatedly over the last week not to just fight every chance he gets. So, while I think he should have (and will on Apr. 3) I can understand why he might not.
While we're at it, I did not like anything about the play on Sieganthaler. Rempe should have accepted that his hit was not going to land and braced for impact on the boards. But, I'm not going to pigeonhole a kid with 10 games under his belt and lots to learn because of one play.
And my other point was that if Bastian kept his head up, that hit would not have been illegal because contact would have been initiated with the torso and there was no elbow, no leaving the feet, etc... Rempe needs to learn control because of his size, but every player on the ice needs to be responsible for the situations they put themselves in.
Komisaurus Rex
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Oil Country -- Not a chyna vassal state, ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Mar 13 @ 12:21 PM ET
Rempe makes the Rangers must see TV every night and into the playoffs. These guys are good for the sport and the fans love them.


A 41 save shutty for Preems in his first game as a full time NHLer and Wawa starting to heat up.



Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 13 @ 12:46 PM ET
Come on Ek, put up a new blog. This one has gone to $hit
- Crushers68

Disagree. Just getting good.
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Mar 13 @ 1:12 PM ET
I think we need more tough guys in the league Too many princesses and prima donnas Time for things to get rough and ready to rumble
Bring back the good old days OLD TIME HOCKEY instead of Spoiled brats and greed
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Mar 13 @ 1:14 PM ET
Scott Steven, NHL Hall of Fame player. 1,635 games, 4...That's F-O-U-R elbowing penalties, or one every 408 games. Suspended twice for a total of four games in 22 seasons. Hit clean but hard. His hits would be penalized today, but he doesn't play today. For the ignorant fans calling Stevens dirty, does anyone remember Trouba hitting Meier in the playoffs last season? That was a Stevens hit. Defending rempe because he has to learn to keep his elbows down? Oh I guess he's new at hockey. He didn't learn that in Juniors or the AHL I guess.
- gmarz16


He is so tall and big his elbows without raising them are even with most players heads As they used to say Keep your head up or face the consequences
gmarz16
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick, NJ
Joined: 07.21.2013

Mar 14 @ 1:31 AM ET
He is so tall and big his elbows without raising them are even with most players heads As they used to say Keep your head up or face the consequences
- broncohorvath


Are you seriously going with that? You're as much of a disgrace as he is...or you're blind. I mean literally blind. Seigenthaler's head was up, or did you conveniently miss that little aspect of the play as well?
gmarz16
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick, NJ
Joined: 07.21.2013

Mar 14 @ 1:46 AM ET
Stevens "big hits" WERE elbows to the head. That was exactly my point.

- Tonybere



So you're saying that in 1,600+ games the ref's just missed all those elbows you saw? You're so blind with your rempe love that you can't admit the obvious. It was a blatantly dirty hit and deserved at least the suspension he got. You're not going to pigeonhole him though because he's only played 10 games. That's mighty charitable of you. I guess rempe just learned how to play hockey and wasn't fully aware of the no elbowing a guy in the head rule.

You also mention that the other guy is responsible for not putting himself in a situation to get hit like that, and that's true for things like coming over the middle with your head down. Timo Meier in the playoffs last year got his clock cleaned by Trouba. Good, hard, clean hit. Brendan Smith broke Bedard's jaw, another good hit. The kind Scott Stevens used to throw, but in rangerworld his four elbowing penalties in 22 years made him dirty. Tell me, what should Seigenthaler have done? He dodged the hit. Should the player not only have to dodge the hit but also be far enough away that he won't get hit with a cheap elbow? Maybe he needs to be a stick length away from the rempe so he doesn't get slashed in the head...Thoughts?

One more thing...You just go up 2-0, have all the momentum, take a stupid penalty, run away from a fight, then wave at the opponent as your tossed out of the game. If the Devils weren't so inept lately that could have been the game right there. Doesn't matter though, rempe's still a hero, right?
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Mar 14 @ 7:52 AM ET
Then why was he chirping and following Rempe around before the elbow to Siegenthaler? Was he inviting him to tea? Fitzgerald went out and acquired him specifically to go after Rempe.
- dashripdot


Dude, come on. He was chirping at him because he almost decapitated Nate Bastian the game before. Exactly as he should’ve.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 14 @ 8:38 AM ET
So you're saying that in 1,600+ games the ref's just missed all those elbows you saw? You're so blind with your rempe love that you can't admit the obvious. It was a blatantly dirty hit and deserved at least the suspension he got. You're not going to pigeonhole him though because he's only played 10 games. That's mighty charitable of you. I guess rempe just learned how to play hockey and wasn't fully aware of the no elbowing a guy in the head rule.

You also mention that the other guy is responsible for not putting himself in a situation to get hit like that, and that's true for things like coming over the middle with your head down. Timo Meier in the playoffs last year got his clock cleaned by Trouba. Good, hard, clean hit. Brendan Smith broke Bedard's jaw, another good hit. The kind Scott Stevens used to throw, but in rangerworld his four elbowing penalties in 22 years made him dirty. Tell me, what should Seigenthaler have done? He dodged the hit. Should the player not only have to dodge the hit but also be far enough away that he won't get hit with a cheap elbow? Maybe he needs to be a stick length away from the rempe so he doesn't get slashed in the head...Thoughts?

One more thing...You just go up 2-0, have all the momentum, take a stupid penalty, run away from a fight, then wave at the opponent as your tossed out of the game. If the Devils weren't so inept lately that could have been the game right there. Doesn't matter though, rempe's still a hero, right?

- gmarz16


Ummm. Ummm..., I guess you missed the part where I said Rempe's ELBOW on Seiganthaler was bad and he has to learn how to play in this league without that sort of thing? Or my post saying it was indefensible?
As for Stevens, I'm sure your statistical investigation was exhaustive. But, predatory is predatory and I know what I saw for a decade. Dude hit guys in the head and it was intentional. Messier did the same thing and so did many others in that age.
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