Think the Sabres believe they still have a shot at the playoffs, hope they play that way vs Isles.
- wcorvette

We need them to win.

Frost has scored 50% of his points against playoff teams this season.
- MJL

Past 10 games he’s been bad. Points in 3 of 10. Non existent in most. But great job against San Jose.

Past 10 games he’s been bad. Points in 3 of 10. Non existent in most. But great job against San Jose.
- ClaudeFather

I think I watched a phantoms game Tuesday

Frost has scored 50% of his points against playoff teams this season.
- MJL

as you like to say, half he teams make the playoffs. is that such a great accomplishment?

I think I watched a phantoms game Tuesday
- Just5

Yea. That was a tough watch

Funny to think that this team that has the Authentics so excited about the future isn't even doing as well as the 15-16 and 17-18 Flyers under Hakstol.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...intPct&page=0&pageSize=50
- Feanor

love that youre using your boy Striker's venacular here

The past draft looks like it was really good. No reason to assume the next two will be duds. Also just because this team is fighting for a playoff spot this year doesn’t mean they won’t be picking in the top 10 the next two. This is a very shallow team, a few injuries can easily sink it and there are more talented teams behind them that are just having a bad season and could rebound next year.
- psuhockey

It does look good. Michkov is the only potential elite prospect they have. Maybe the best we can hope for again is the same unintended consequences from Fletcher in that their plan massively fails and the Flyers reap the benefit? The Flyers don't have an issue getting good players. They have an issue getting elite players. How do you get those players? Maybe the Flyers get lucky and get an elite player with a later pick. Maybe not. Do you believe that the Flyers are going to make all of those picks? That they aren't going to use those assets in trades to escalate?
The reality is that the Flyers current path is most likely going to put them right back into the worst position an NHL team can be in. A decent team that can make the playoffs with no chance to legitimately contend. Up against the cap. Worsening their draft position. I'm not sure why most fans don't get that. So easily captured and starved for even minor success. To the point where they get excited about a team that is barely above .500.

Past 10 games he’s been bad. Points in 3 of 10. Non existent in most. But great job against San Jose.
- ClaudeFather

I disagree that he has been bad in the past 10 games. Frost has 6 points in the past 10 games.

Would you have preferred that Frost not make a great pass on the first goal and not score a PP goal so the Flyers lose the game? There were a bunch of posters calling the SJ game a must win. Frost delivered in the game. Don't let that get in the way of your narrative though.

What would you rather be. A non playoff team with a high level prospect base and potential 1C and #1 defenseman and 40M in cap space? Or the bubble playoff team with no realistic chance at the Cup, only one potential elite prospect and a very muddled cap position?
- MJL

Been hearing this same crap about the Sabres for ions and what has it meant. More and more mediocrity. Big whoop!

If it is a question of overall young talent I am taking the Sabres all day. Tage Thompson and that defense group are a great start.

Sabres have been managed worse than the Flyers for over the last decade.
- mickel25

I’d agree. Flip the coaches, and Buffalo probably has a better record than us, with the flyers having a worse record than Buffalo

Been hearing this same crap about the Sabres for ions and what has it meant. More and more mediocrity. Big whoop!
- Phillywhiteout

A team is better off being in that position then the one the Flyers are headed for.

No #1 Dman on the team now or in the system

A #1 C that is a HUGE maybe in the system. Only if he can successfully navigate changing positions to C full time and if geopolitical relations don’t get in the way (not trending the right way)

Yes 4 first round picks in the next 2 years. While I am encouraged with Flahr’s team and his drafting, 3 of those picks are very likely to be pick 20 or lower in the draft and 2 coming in a weaker than usual draft especially in the 20’s (this years).

Long term anchor contracts to navigate (risto, coots)

2 dmen that the team is counting on to be a big part of the picture that are undersized. (York, drysdale). Look around recent Stanley cup teams. Doesn’t happen unless you’re talking premium skill with small size on the back end. Need dmen to play heavy and punishing games on the boards in the playoffs. Still value in that.
- Just5

A team can get great defensemen well after the top 10 so there is no reason they can’t hit on one with a late first or second. The top rookie defenseman in the NHL this year was the 45th overal choice.

1C is harder to get after the top 10 but supposedly next year’s draft is deep in centers and I think the Flyers will come back to earth next season.

Couturier’s contract is too long but Ristolainen’s is done in 3 years so that’s not really awful if the focus is on the future.

I don’t think it is a bad as many are making it out to be. Yes they are going to have to get a little lucky but so does every team that wins a cup.

It does look good. Michkov is the only potential elite prospect they have. Maybe the best we can hope for again is the same unintended consequences from Fletcher in that their plan massively fails and the Flyers reap the benefit? The Flyers don't have an issue getting good players. They have an issue getting elite players. How do you get those players? Maybe the Flyers get lucky and get an elite player with a later pick. Maybe not. Do you believe that the Flyers are going to make all of those picks? That they aren't going to use those assets in trades to escalate?
The reality is that the Flyers current path is most likely going to put them right back into the worst position an NHL team can be in. A decent team that can make the playoffs with no chance to legitimately contend. Up against the cap. Worsening their draft position. I'm not sure why most fans don't get that. So easily captured and starved for even minor success. To the point where they get excited about a team that is barely above .500.
- MJL

Wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?

Been hearing this same crap about the Sabres for ions and what has it meant. More and more mediocrity. Big whoop!
- Phillywhiteout

Youve been hearing theyre electrically charged particles?

love that youre using your boy Striker's venacular here
- THE BLACK HAND

lol..

A team is better off being in that position then the one the Flyers are headed for.
- MJL

Then perhaps you should start become a Sabres fan and join their message board....I'm sure there's at least one out there. You can enlighten their handful of fans on how much better they are than the Flyers.

A team can get great defensemen well after the top 10 so there is no reason they can’t hit on one with a late first or second. The top rookie defenseman in the NHL this year was the 45th overal choice.

1C is harder to get after the top 10 but supposedly next year’s draft is deep in centers and I think the Flyers will come back to earth next season.

Couturier’s contract is too long but Ristolainen’s is done in 3 years so that’s not really awful if the focus is on the future.

I don’t think it is a bad as many are making it out to be. Yes they are going to have to get a little lucky but so does every team that wins a cup.
- psuhockey

flyers draft track record says otherwise

flyers value diff traits then that of elite centers. My guess is the trade for guy of the kadri ilk or what not.

They will def 100% go after a big name this summer. whether they get that player is another story

No #1 Dman on the team now or in the system

A #1 C that is a HUGE maybe in the system. Only if he can successfully navigate changing positions to C full time and if geopolitical relations don’t get in the way (not trending the right way)

Yes 4 first round picks in the next 2 years. While I am encouraged with Flahr’s team and his drafting, 3 of those picks are very likely to be pick 20 or lower in the draft and 2 coming in a weaker than usual draft especially in the 20’s (this years).

Long term anchor contracts to navigate (risto, coots)

2 dmen that the team is counting on to be a big part of the picture that are undersized. (York, drysdale). Look around recent Stanley cup teams. Doesn’t happen unless your talking premium skill with small size on the back end. Need dmen to play heavy and punishing games on the boards in the playoffs. Still value in that.
- Just5

Michkov will NOT play center. He is a wing, and should be a wing. The team would be crazy to try that IMO.

I have lots of friends in Buffalo and they're still laughing that we took Risto off their hands and now Johnson.
- Briere

And please tell your friends that we are laughing at them for supporting a team that has Epically Sucked for over a decade despite having multiple number 1 picks and picking in the top 10 just about every year! Good job Buffalo!

I disagree that he has been bad in the past 10 games. Frost has 6 points in the past 10 games.

Would you have preferred that Frost not make a great pass on the first goal and not score a PP goal so the Flyers lose the game? There were a bunch of posters calling the SJ game a must win. Frost delivered in the game. Don't let that get in the way of your narrative though.
- MJL

Points in 3 of 10 Cliff, lot of losses in those 10 games. He’s been bad.

No #1 Dman on the team now or in the system

A #1 C that is a HUGE maybe in the system. Only if he can successfully navigate changing positions to C full time and if geopolitical relations don’t get in the way (not trending the right way)

Yes 4 first round picks in the next 2 years. While I am encouraged with Flahr’s team and his drafting, 3 of those picks are very likely to be pick 20 or lower in the draft and 2 coming in a weaker than usual draft especially in the 20’s (this years).

Long term anchor contracts to navigate (risto, coots)

2 dmen that the team is counting on to be a big part of the picture that are undersized. (York, drysdale). Look around recent Stanley cup teams. Doesn’t happen unless your talking premium skill with small size on the back end. Need dmen to play heavy and punishing games on the boards in the playoffs. Still value in that.
- Just5

Quinn Hughes is only 5'10". Also there have been plenty of really good to elite players drafted in the 1st round mid 20s .. Pastrnak, Giroux, TK, just to name a few. Don't be so pessimistic, this forum needs more optimism.

I disagree that he has been bad in the past 10 games. Frost has 6 points in the past 10 games.

Would you have preferred that Frost not make a great pass on the first goal and not score a PP goal so the Flyers lose the game? There were a bunch of posters calling the SJ game a must win. Frost delivered in the game. Don't let that get in the way of your narrative though.
- MJL

Frost had a great game against San Jose, how about we see him do it now in the next 7 games also?

Michkov will NOT play center. He is a wing, and should be a wing. The team would be crazy to try that IMO.
- MBFlyerfan

Agreed, the last thing we want to do is bog Michkov down with more defensive responsibilities. We need him to just think about offense. It's enough that he will have to adapt to a smaller rink and less space.

What would you rather be. A non playoff team with a high level prospect base and potential 1C and #1 defenseman and 40M in cap space? Or the bubble playoff team with no realistic chance at the Cup, only one potential elite prospect and a very muddled cap position?
- MJL

You left out the bubble teams culture.

Past 10 games he’s been bad. Points in 3 of 10. Non existent in most. But great job against San Jose.
- ClaudeFather

Month of March (6 games).....

MF 1-3
OT 3-1
TF 0-2
JF 2-0
NC 0-1
GH 1-0
SL 1-1
SC 0-0
RP 1-1

Except for TK, they all seem to have their disappearing moments. For some reason Frost is held to a higher standard.