Letterkenney
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Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA Joined: 03.20.2020
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There's the operative word: "yet."
This past TDL hasn't given me a lot of faith moving forward. They'll always put winning above rebuilding. - Pelle31Forever
A lot of teams have rebuilt and don’t have a Cup. Vegas looks like they’ve broken the mold. They swing for the fences all the time. They get proven players to come there. Forget about development. Let other teams develop and just bring in the players you need. I’m sure they’ll eventually pay a price. But how many Cups will they have by then? Cap management is king.
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ClaudeFather
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: South Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.23.2007
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The NHL gift-wrapped Vegas from jump. Hockey in the desert is stupid and so is that silly ass town. They gave Vegas so much with the expansion draft that they had to alter the rules immediately by the time Seattle got in. I wonder if the league's going to bother fixing the Kucherov, then Stone, now Stone again LTIR rule in the offseason. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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these players suck man, 4 other players is a lot on this team. - ClaudeFather
Points per player for the Flyers last 40 games.
Konecny 34
Farabee 30
Frost 28
Tippett 24
Couturier 17
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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The NHL gift-wrapped Vegas from jump. Hockey in the desert is stupid and so is that silly ass town. They gave Vegas so much with the expansion draft that they had to alter the rules immediately by the time Seattle got in. I wonder if the league's going to bother fixing the Kucherov, then Stone, now Stone again LTIR rule in the offseason. - Pixote Andolini
I don't see that as the case. Vegas was smarter than the rest of the GM's around the league. They earned that. They've made some great trades and signings also. I don't think the league feels they need to fix the rule.
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Points per player for the Flyers last 40 games.
Konecny 34
Farabee 30
Frost 28
Tippett 24
Couturier 17 - MJL
I guess Frost has done his production with less icetime than the 3 other guys. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I guess Frost has done his production with less icetime than the 3 other guys. - THE EVIL WITHIN
I don't know. To note, that is not for the last 40 games those players have played. It's for the Flyers last 40 games played. For example, Konecny missed some games in that time frame.
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The NHL gift-wrapped Vegas from jump. Hockey in the desert is stupid and so is that silly ass town. They gave Vegas so much with the expansion draft that they had to alter the rules immediately by the time Seattle got in. I wonder if the league's going to bother fixing the Kucherov, then Stone, now Stone again LTIR rule in the offseason. - Pixote Andolini
Not many if any of the poundants had Vegas in the playoffs in their first season. And Eichel & MAF may be the only recognizable "star" players they ever had. 4 great lines, hard work. |
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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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It certainly matter swhen looking at overall skill and talent. A player doesn't always use that skill and talent to the best of their ability. Give some facts on what makes Frost more skilled then Tippett then. - MJL
Overall I think Frost is more skilled than Tippet. First Frost is better defensively, not that that is hard by any means. Frost is a good skater, obviously has better vision on the ice, clearly a better passer and has a sneaky good shot that is not as dangerous as Tippet's but I think is more accurate. Tippet is a better power and straight line skater, probably better than anyone on the Flyers team, has better 1 on 1 capability than Frost, is bigger, stronger and has a harder shot, but not an accurate shot. Both players have good hands but suffer from inconsistency game to game. When I put it all together, I would say Frost has a slight edge over Tippet in the skill department. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Overall I think Frost is more skilled than Tippet. First Frost is better defensively, not that that is hard by any means. Frost is a good skater, obviously has better vision on the ice, clearly a better passer and has a sneaky good shot that is not as dangerous as Tippet's but I think is more accurate. Tippet is a better power and straight line skater, probably better than anyone on the Flyers team, has better 1 on 1 capability than Frost, is bigger, stronger and has a harder shot, but not an accurate shot. Both players have good hands but suffer from inconsistency game to game. When I put it all together, I would say Frost has a slight edge over Tippet in the skill department. - jd250
I don't see any facts. Just opinions. The simple fact that Tippett was drafted 10th overall while Frost was drafted 27th overall. Tippett was ranked 7th in NA skater rankings going into the draft. Clearly points out that the consensus opinion is that Tippett was considered the more talented player at the draft. You've made a bad argument. |
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TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Duncan, BC Joined: 12.06.2019
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Overall I think Frost is more skilled than Tippet. First Frost is better defensively, not that that is hard by any means. Frost is a good skater, obviously has better vision on the ice, clearly a better passer and has a sneaky good shot that is not as dangerous as Tippet's but I think is more accurate. Tippet is a better power and straight line skater, probably better than anyone on the Flyers team, has better 1 on 1 capability than Frost, is bigger, stronger and has a harder shot, but not an accurate shot. Both players have good hands but suffer from inconsistency game to game. When I put it all together, I would say Frost has a slight edge over Tippet in the skill department. - jd250
So does this mean you would give Frost an 8 year deal at the same annual cost as Tippett? Or is he worth more as a center who is better defensively? |
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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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I don't see any facts. Just opinions. The simple fact that Tippett was drafted 10th overall while Frost was drafted 27th overall. Tippett was ranked 7th in NA skater rankings going into the draft. Clearly points out that the consensus opinion is that Tippett was considered the more talented player at the draft. You've made a bad argument. - MJL
We are not talking about the draft nimrod, we are talking about RIGHT NOW! Right now I think Frost is the 2nd most skilled player on the Flyers, only behind TK. Prove me wrong. |
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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 01.12.2018
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So does this mean you would give Frost an 8 year deal at the same annual cost as Tippett? Or is he worth more as a center who is better defensively? - TheFreak
No, because though Frost has the skill, he has not demonstrated that he can play consistently nor has he demonstrated he can put up the points that deserve that type of deal. With Tippet, though he has also been inconsistent and also hasn't put up the points, he has demonstrated that he has the potential to be a 40+ goal scorer in this league, and furthermore the ability to take over games. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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We are not talking about the draft nimrod, we are talking about RIGHT NOW! Right now I think Frost is the 2nd most skilled player on the Flyers, only behind TK. Prove me wrong. - jd250
So in your knuckle head opinion, Frost who was ranked well below Tippett in terms of talent and skill in the draft. Has since then, grown and developed his talent and skill at a faster rate and has now surpassed Tippett in terms of skill? That's good to know. I should bookmark this. I don't need to prove you wrong. Your posts do that themselves. With every response you dig a deeper hole. You're just to stupid to realize it.
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ForeverFlyer16
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Lou Nolan for Flyers Hall of Fame , NJ Joined: 11.03.2006
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That's some funny sheet!
BTW... who the hell would want 10,000 bobbleheads? We'll probable start seeing illegal aliens carrying them across the border in another few weeks. - Letterkenney
Columbus flea market... ebay? 🙉 🙈 🙊 |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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No, because though Frost has the skill, he has not demonstrated that he can play consistently nor has he demonstrated he can put up the points that deserve that type of deal. With Tippet, though he has also been inconsistent and also hasn't put up the points, he has demonstrated that he has the potential to be a 40+ goal scorer in this league, and furthermore the ability to take over games. - jd250
Wow, where to begin. Frost has produced points at the same level basically as Tippett has. While also being a superior all around player than Tippett. He doesn't deserve the same contract due to displaying the same inconsistency that Tippett has. Except for this mythical idea you have that Tippett has the potential to be a 40+ goal scorer? It seems as though and this is certainly no surprise. That you don't have a clue of what it takes to be a 40 goal scorer in this league. Tippett has yet to show that he can score 30 goals in this league, let alone 40+. Tippett is lacking in a lot of areas that he would drastically have to improve on offensively to score 40+ goals. Again, you're living in fantasy land. How many games has Tippett taken over in his Flyers career?
The kicker of it all is that you're not even aware of how you're contradicting yourself. You fall right into it and you have no clue that you even did. It's hysterical. Every single day, as sure as the sun will come up. |
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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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According to Eklunds buzztron, Toronto is going to go 16-1-1 the rest of the way. Come on boys, lets prove him wrong by making them go 15-2-1. |
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roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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Yep, Sanheim is the 40th highest paid defenseman in the NHL. Its not that bad a deal . - MBFlyerfan
If Sanheim plays the most minutes nightly, he’s going to get the most touches on a team that has no choice but to score by committee. Sanheim isn’t an ideal top pair guy. Make no mistake, Sanheim is having a nice year but the only player that was ever holding him back was himself. |
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roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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Overall I think Frost is more skilled than Tippet. First Frost is better defensively, not that that is hard by any means. Frost is a good skater, obviously has better vision on the ice, clearly a better passer and has a sneaky good shot that is not as dangerous as Tippet's but I think is more accurate. Tippet is a better power and straight line skater, probably better than anyone on the Flyers team, has better 1 on 1 capability than Frost, is bigger, stronger and has a harder shot, but not an accurate shot. Both players have good hands but suffer from inconsistency game to game. When I put it all together, I would say Frost has a slight edge over Tippet in the skill department. - jd250
I think this probably your more fair assessment of the two players. I also don’t think anyone needs to bring up the draft year of 2017. Obviously the Nolan Patrick year. Ryan Poehling was drafted two spots ahead of Frost. So take that for what it’s worth. |
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roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Canada, MI Joined: 12.23.2006
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wtf is up with the 7:30 start? |
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MBFlyerfan
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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wtf is up with the 7:30 start? - roenick97
Frakking ESPN exerting its control.
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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine. Joined: 03.15.2009
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wtf is up with the 7:30 start? - roenick97
“Hockey night” on ESPN+/HULU |
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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: PA Joined: 05.22.2008
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Michkov will NOT play center. He is a wing, and should be a wing. The team would be crazy to try that IMO. - MBFlyerfan
I thought that was the plan?
I’m not for that. I say let him do what he does also |
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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Be nice from now on, NJ Joined: 03.17.2006
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I thought that was the plan? - Just5
That may have been the plan for Gauthier. The Michkov playing center thing was the St. Petersburgh douche/coach trying something. He played wing all season for Sochi.
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