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Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Mar 14 @ 4:03 PM ET
When it rains it pours


https://twitter.com/pengu...tatus/1768262286244790701

- MBFlyerfan


That's some funny sheet!

BTW... who the hell would want 10,000 bobbleheads? We'll probable start seeing illegal aliens carrying them across the border in another few weeks.
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Mar 14 @ 4:04 PM ET
There's the operative word: "yet."

This past TDL hasn't given me a lot of faith moving forward. They'll always put winning above rebuilding.

- Pelle31Forever


A lot of teams have rebuilt and don’t have a Cup. Vegas looks like they’ve broken the mold. They swing for the fences all the time. They get proven players to come there. Forget about development. Let other teams develop and just bring in the players you need. I’m sure they’ll eventually pay a price. But how many Cups will they have by then? Cap management is king.


ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 14 @ 4:04 PM ET
Past 10 games he has 6 points. Only 4 other players on the team have more.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...ssists&page=0&pageSize=50

Past ~140 games he's been as about good as Farabee and Tippett at producing points, and much better defensively than the carrot top with the $50m contract.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...ssists&page=0&pageSize=50

- Feanor

these players suck man, 4 other players is a lot on this team.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 14 @ 4:18 PM ET
The NHL gift-wrapped Vegas from jump. Hockey in the desert is stupid and so is that silly ass town. They gave Vegas so much with the expansion draft that they had to alter the rules immediately by the time Seattle got in. I wonder if the league's going to bother fixing the Kucherov, then Stone, now Stone again LTIR rule in the offseason.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 4:26 PM ET
these players suck man, 4 other players is a lot on this team.
- ClaudeFather


Points per player for the Flyers last 40 games.

Konecny 34
Farabee 30
Frost 28
Tippett 24
Couturier 17


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 4:28 PM ET
The NHL gift-wrapped Vegas from jump. Hockey in the desert is stupid and so is that silly ass town. They gave Vegas so much with the expansion draft that they had to alter the rules immediately by the time Seattle got in. I wonder if the league's going to bother fixing the Kucherov, then Stone, now Stone again LTIR rule in the offseason.
- Pixote Andolini


I don't see that as the case. Vegas was smarter than the rest of the GM's around the league. They earned that. They've made some great trades and signings also. I don't think the league feels they need to fix the rule.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Mar 14 @ 4:39 PM ET
Points per player for the Flyers last 40 games.

Konecny 34
Farabee 30
Frost 28
Tippett 24
Couturier 17

- MJL

I guess Frost has done his production with less icetime than the 3 other guys.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 4:43 PM ET
I guess Frost has done his production with less icetime than the 3 other guys.
- THE EVIL WITHIN


I don't know. To note, that is not for the last 40 games those players have played. It's for the Flyers last 40 games played. For example, Konecny missed some games in that time frame.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Mar 14 @ 4:46 PM ET
The NHL gift-wrapped Vegas from jump. Hockey in the desert is stupid and so is that silly ass town. They gave Vegas so much with the expansion draft that they had to alter the rules immediately by the time Seattle got in. I wonder if the league's going to bother fixing the Kucherov, then Stone, now Stone again LTIR rule in the offseason.
- Pixote Andolini

Not many if any of the poundants had Vegas in the playoffs in their first season. And Eichel & MAF may be the only recognizable "star" players they ever had. 4 great lines, hard work.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 14 @ 4:57 PM ET
It certainly matter swhen looking at overall skill and talent. A player doesn't always use that skill and talent to the best of their ability. Give some facts on what makes Frost more skilled then Tippett then.
- MJL

Overall I think Frost is more skilled than Tippet. First Frost is better defensively, not that that is hard by any means. Frost is a good skater, obviously has better vision on the ice, clearly a better passer and has a sneaky good shot that is not as dangerous as Tippet's but I think is more accurate. Tippet is a better power and straight line skater, probably better than anyone on the Flyers team, has better 1 on 1 capability than Frost, is bigger, stronger and has a harder shot, but not an accurate shot. Both players have good hands but suffer from inconsistency game to game. When I put it all together, I would say Frost has a slight edge over Tippet in the skill department.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 5:00 PM ET
Overall I think Frost is more skilled than Tippet. First Frost is better defensively, not that that is hard by any means. Frost is a good skater, obviously has better vision on the ice, clearly a better passer and has a sneaky good shot that is not as dangerous as Tippet's but I think is more accurate. Tippet is a better power and straight line skater, probably better than anyone on the Flyers team, has better 1 on 1 capability than Frost, is bigger, stronger and has a harder shot, but not an accurate shot. Both players have good hands but suffer from inconsistency game to game. When I put it all together, I would say Frost has a slight edge over Tippet in the skill department.
- jd250


I don't see any facts. Just opinions. The simple fact that Tippett was drafted 10th overall while Frost was drafted 27th overall. Tippett was ranked 7th in NA skater rankings going into the draft. Clearly points out that the consensus opinion is that Tippett was considered the more talented player at the draft. You've made a bad argument.
TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Duncan, BC
Joined: 12.06.2019

Mar 14 @ 5:05 PM ET
Overall I think Frost is more skilled than Tippet. First Frost is better defensively, not that that is hard by any means. Frost is a good skater, obviously has better vision on the ice, clearly a better passer and has a sneaky good shot that is not as dangerous as Tippet's but I think is more accurate. Tippet is a better power and straight line skater, probably better than anyone on the Flyers team, has better 1 on 1 capability than Frost, is bigger, stronger and has a harder shot, but not an accurate shot. Both players have good hands but suffer from inconsistency game to game. When I put it all together, I would say Frost has a slight edge over Tippet in the skill department.
- jd250


So does this mean you would give Frost an 8 year deal at the same annual cost as Tippett? Or is he worth more as a center who is better defensively?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 14 @ 5:33 PM ET
I don't see any facts. Just opinions. The simple fact that Tippett was drafted 10th overall while Frost was drafted 27th overall. Tippett was ranked 7th in NA skater rankings going into the draft. Clearly points out that the consensus opinion is that Tippett was considered the more talented player at the draft. You've made a bad argument.
- MJL

We are not talking about the draft nimrod, we are talking about RIGHT NOW! Right now I think Frost is the 2nd most skilled player on the Flyers, only behind TK. Prove me wrong.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 14 @ 5:36 PM ET
So does this mean you would give Frost an 8 year deal at the same annual cost as Tippett? Or is he worth more as a center who is better defensively?
- TheFreak

No, because though Frost has the skill, he has not demonstrated that he can play consistently nor has he demonstrated he can put up the points that deserve that type of deal. With Tippet, though he has also been inconsistent and also hasn't put up the points, he has demonstrated that he has the potential to be a 40+ goal scorer in this league, and furthermore the ability to take over games.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 5:37 PM ET
We are not talking about the draft nimrod, we are talking about RIGHT NOW! Right now I think Frost is the 2nd most skilled player on the Flyers, only behind TK. Prove me wrong.
- jd250


So in your knuckle head opinion, Frost who was ranked well below Tippett in terms of talent and skill in the draft. Has since then, grown and developed his talent and skill at a faster rate and has now surpassed Tippett in terms of skill? That's good to know. I should bookmark this. I don't need to prove you wrong. Your posts do that themselves. With every response you dig a deeper hole. You're just to stupid to realize it.
ForeverFlyer16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lou Nolan for Flyers Hall of Fame , NJ
Joined: 11.03.2006

Mar 14 @ 5:44 PM ET
That's some funny sheet!

BTW... who the hell would want 10,000 bobbleheads? We'll probable start seeing illegal aliens carrying them across the border in another few weeks.

- Letterkenney



Columbus flea market... ebay? 🙉 🙈 🙊
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 5:44 PM ET
No, because though Frost has the skill, he has not demonstrated that he can play consistently nor has he demonstrated he can put up the points that deserve that type of deal. With Tippet, though he has also been inconsistent and also hasn't put up the points, he has demonstrated that he has the potential to be a 40+ goal scorer in this league, and furthermore the ability to take over games.
- jd250



Wow, where to begin. Frost has produced points at the same level basically as Tippett has. While also being a superior all around player than Tippett. He doesn't deserve the same contract due to displaying the same inconsistency that Tippett has. Except for this mythical idea you have that Tippett has the potential to be a 40+ goal scorer? It seems as though and this is certainly no surprise. That you don't have a clue of what it takes to be a 40 goal scorer in this league. Tippett has yet to show that he can score 30 goals in this league, let alone 40+. Tippett is lacking in a lot of areas that he would drastically have to improve on offensively to score 40+ goals. Again, you're living in fantasy land. How many games has Tippett taken over in his Flyers career?

The kicker of it all is that you're not even aware of how you're contradicting yourself. You fall right into it and you have no clue that you even did. It's hysterical. Every single day, as sure as the sun will come up.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 14 @ 6:21 PM ET
According to Eklunds buzztron, Toronto is going to go 16-1-1 the rest of the way. Come on boys, lets prove him wrong by making them go 15-2-1.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 14 @ 6:32 PM ET
Yep, Sanheim is the 40th highest paid defenseman in the NHL. Its not that bad a deal .
- MBFlyerfan

If Sanheim plays the most minutes nightly, he’s going to get the most touches on a team that has no choice but to score by committee. Sanheim isn’t an ideal top pair guy. Make no mistake, Sanheim is having a nice year but the only player that was ever holding him back was himself.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 14 @ 6:39 PM ET
Overall I think Frost is more skilled than Tippet. First Frost is better defensively, not that that is hard by any means. Frost is a good skater, obviously has better vision on the ice, clearly a better passer and has a sneaky good shot that is not as dangerous as Tippet's but I think is more accurate. Tippet is a better power and straight line skater, probably better than anyone on the Flyers team, has better 1 on 1 capability than Frost, is bigger, stronger and has a harder shot, but not an accurate shot. Both players have good hands but suffer from inconsistency game to game. When I put it all together, I would say Frost has a slight edge over Tippet in the skill department.
- jd250


I think this probably your more fair assessment of the two players. I also don’t think anyone needs to bring up the draft year of 2017. Obviously the Nolan Patrick year. Ryan Poehling was drafted two spots ahead of Frost. So take that for what it’s worth.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 14 @ 7:06 PM ET
wtf is up with the 7:30 start?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 14 @ 7:10 PM ET
wtf is up with the 7:30 start?
- roenick97



Frakking ESPN exerting its control.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 14 @ 7:10 PM ET
wtf is up with the 7:30 start?
- roenick97

“Hockey night” on ESPN+/HULU
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 14 @ 7:11 PM ET
Michkov will NOT play center. He is a wing, and should be a wing. The team would be crazy to try that IMO.
- MBFlyerfan


I thought that was the plan?

I’m not for that. I say let him do what he does also
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 14 @ 7:12 PM ET
I thought that was the plan?
- Just5



That may have been the plan for Gauthier. The Michkov playing center thing was the St. Petersburgh douche/coach trying something. He played wing all season for Sochi.
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