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Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 19 @ 8:16 PM ET
Your ignorance is astounding. Some very key points. The first is that I can factually prove that Konecny is a 1st line player which separates it from being an opinion. Either yours or mine. You can't offer any facts that prove that I was wrong on the Couturier situation. Lastly and perhaps most important is your repeated use the word absolutely. That is incorrectly applied by you based on the fact that I have stated, numerous times, that anyone who believed that the Flyers should've traded Couturier, were not wrong in my opinion. I've stated this to you numerous times. No matter how many times I refer to that fact, it doesn't sink into your brain. So how can it be absolute? Couturier being scratched by this coach has zero bearing on this in my opinion.
- MJL


#1 my tk comment was sarcasm. I agree he’s a top line winger. Maybe on some teams he wouldn’t be the TYPE top line winger they’d want but he is absolutely a top line winger.

As far as coots the facts are clear as day of why it was wrong. Even if you were willing to deal with the back end of contract not being good for the front part being worth it what more proof is needed? 2 years missed. Low production once back. Reduced minutes. And now benching. What more proof could you possibly need?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 8:16 PM ET
Would have been nice for the OK player to make Samsanov make a save there on a break away.
- jd250



He did make a save. Or did you just ignore the replay?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 19 @ 8:17 PM ET
He did make a save. Or did you just ignore the replay?
- MBFlyerfan

Farabee missed the net
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Mar 19 @ 8:18 PM ET
Tippet putting it in 5th gear.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 8:18 PM ET
Farabee missed the net
- jd250



No, Samsonov got a piece of it.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 19 @ 8:19 PM ET
See that play by Tippet? That is why you put up with the defensive liabilities.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 19 @ 8:20 PM ET
No, Samsonov got a piece of it.
- MBFlyerfan
According to JJ and Bouch, he missed the net.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 19 @ 8:20 PM ET
$100 bucks says Torts doesn't win the Jack Adams.
- MBFlyerfan

Are you hoping too?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 19 @ 8:20 PM ET
How many near goals have there been in this game? A little too back and forth for my taste against this team.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 8:21 PM ET
According to JJ and Bouch, he missed the net.
- jd250


And according to the replay, he got a a piece of it.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 8:21 PM ET
Are you hoping too?
- jd250



No, just showing that you are full of crap. Take the bet if you are so sure.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 19 @ 8:21 PM ET
See that play by Tippet? That is why you put up with the defensive liabilities.
- jd250


No you don't. You correct those liabilities and make him a better player.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 19 @ 8:22 PM ET
I am really impressed with Zamula as he has developed nicely this year. He looked very good against Boston the other night, playing over 20 minutes in the game. I guess Torts and Shaw know a little about how to develop a player, eh?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 19 @ 8:22 PM ET
#1 my tk comment was sarcasm. I agree he’s a top line winger. Maybe on some teams he wouldn’t be the TYPE top line winger they’d want but he is absolutely a top line winger.

As far as coots the facts are clear as day of why it was wrong. Even if you were willing to deal with the back end of contract not being good for the front part being worth it what more proof is needed? 2 years missed. Low production once back. Reduced minutes. And now benching. What more proof could you possibly need?

- Stayin alive


It's an 8 year contract. Give him time.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 19 @ 8:22 PM ET
100% agree with this. Reminds me of when Buffalo made playofffs with the hardest working team in hockey with Ted Nolan as coach.

Respect the effort and all and sometimes semi entertaining but never gonna win cup. Which should be the goal

- Stayin alive

Agree with what? That a coach’s methods eventually fall on deaf ears and Torts like every other coach in the history of the league has a shelf life….that’s some ground breaking observation there.
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 19 @ 8:24 PM ET
That they aren't scrubs is exactly why you explore trades. Neither are players that you shop and take the best offer. You have to get the correct value, especially for Konecny. There is no doubt that they're going to extend Konecny.
- MJL

Like I said the absolute worst thing you can do is extend them. (Tk)

See coots (how’s that turning out)


And yes you definitely want correct value. No doubt. Totally agree. And only a moron like Fletcher wouldn’t get at least close to correct value. But what is worse than getting correct value or any value for that matter is extending long term especially for where this team sits
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 19 @ 8:26 PM ET
I am really impressed with Zamula as he has developed nicely this year. He looked very good against Boston the other night, playing over 20 minutes in the game. I guess Torts and Shaw know a little about how to develop a player, eh?
- jd250


All year you've been criticizing Zamula. They know how to coach defense. That's about it.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 19 @ 8:27 PM ET
Agree with what? That a coach’s methods eventually fall on deaf ears and Torts like every other coach in the history of the league has a shelf life….that’s some ground breaking observation ther.
- landros 2

So true ..

Oh .. see how smart I sound ... NHL players will eventually tune out their coach and need another voice .. it will happen .. you just watch
Stayin alive
Joined: 06.10.2021

Mar 19 @ 8:28 PM ET
That they aren't scrubs is exactly why you explore trades. Neither are players that you shop and take the best offer. You have to get the correct value, especially for Konecny. There is no doubt that they're going to extend Konecny.
- MJL


I also agree there probably is no doubt they will extend tk. I am holding out hope at draft only because I love the idea of mm and that move kept me in for now and bought time with me. However I need tk moved and laughts. Hart gone for other reason but wanted no part of his extension

Sadly this team never learns. Hopefully they prove me wrong. I’d be happy
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 19 @ 8:28 PM ET
The difference is with some coaches and the really good ones is that a team will have some real success before he runs his course with his team. That's not going to happen with Tortorella. That is the point that in the time until that happens. The Flyers aren't going anywhere.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 19 @ 8:29 PM ET
All year you've been criticizing Zamula. They know how to coach defense. That's about it.
- MJL

Prove it .. go back in your archives and show me just 1 post where I have criticized him. I posted back in pre-season when I watched the Flyers play the Bruins live that two of the best players for the Flyers were Zamula and Poehling.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 19 @ 8:31 PM ET
With Frost in the middle this is the best this PP has looked all season
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 8:32 PM ET
With Frost in the middle this is the best this PP has looked all season
- jd250




Nifty pass he made to York there
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Mar 19 @ 8:32 PM ET
Atta boy Ersson
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 19 @ 8:32 PM ET
One of those games Tippett has been a force
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