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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 20 @ 11:49 AM ET
Couturier's agent is not going to let this lie, so I expect the Flyers to be making leadership changes over the summer. I don't think the first captain in the "New Era of Orange" is going to last more than a few months.

"Sean Couturier is an ideal choice to be the next leader of the Philadelphia Flyers," said Briere. "Sean was drafted here and has made Philadelphia his home. I have personally seen his development from a responsible forward to one of the best two-way centermen in the game and a playoff performer. The adversity he has had to overcome has only strengthened his proven leadership. In this New Era of Orange with Dan Hilferty, Keith Jones and John Tortorella at the helm, we couldn't be more proud to call him captain."

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https://theathletic.com/5...mpaign=nhltw&source=nhltw

“Throughout last year and at the beginning of (this) year, in the conversations with Sean, he always told me that Tortorella and him had a pretty good relationship,” Lupien said. “As soon as we get through that character, he’s a pretty funny guy. And the conversations are good with him, and he knows what the team wants and what he wants from him.

“From my point of view, when I saw the news (Couturier was scratched), I’m like, I really hope the communication why and the reasons why are really clear. I hope he’s going to get an explanation soon because he’s the captain, a leader of the team, and he has ‘Philadelphia’ tattooed on his chest since he got drafted. That’s why he wanted to sign there and to sign a long contract. I hope he’s going to get that respect from John Tortorella.”

“Sean won’t learn anything by being in the bleachers tonight,” Lupien said. “He’s not a second-year pro that went through a cold streak. Sean is a leader and the captain of this team, so by putting him in the bleachers, for a player, he’s going to be ashamed to be there tonight. If there’s no communication of why between the two, in 2024, from my perspective, it ain’t always good to coach and establish regimental fear. And these guys are in the playoff picture.

“With your captain, you have to work together as a team. You want to send a message to the other guys, it has to go through your captain and your assistant. So now you’re not communicating with him. So, OK, what’s next?”
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 20 @ 11:49 AM ET
one top center doe snot turn it into a strength.
- hello it's me 2050

Sure it does ... consider with a true 1C, Frost is your 2C (if he keeps his play up), Couts is 3C and Poehling is 4C .. that is pretty strong IMO
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 20 @ 11:51 AM ET
You mean a guy like Gauthier? Oh wait...
- Phillywhiteout

He's not a center ... at least not a good one
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 20 @ 11:51 AM ET
He's not a center ... at least not a good one
- jd250


Has two good shoulders, though.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 20 @ 11:54 AM ET
I don't think the first captain in the "New Era of Orange" is going to last more than a few months.
- Feanor


Briere is really close with Coots, he's basically like a son to him.

Get your popcorn ready.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 20 @ 11:54 AM ET
Briere is full of crap. He is either delusional or is simply being untruthful.
- MJL

Or is being manipulated by Torts and Jones .. he's trapped, there is nowhere to run, nowhere to hide
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 20 @ 11:59 AM ET
Frost
anti-lame
Joined: 11.02.2021

Mar 20 @ 11:59 AM ET
“We want accountability!”



“Wait, not for that guy though!”
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 20 @ 11:59 AM ET
Yeah I think Torts is donezo after this season. I have never seen Coots as upset as he was when he spoke to the media yesterday. Torts clearly crossed a line. If Coots pushes hard enough I think Torts is done as the coach.
- mickel25

What do you think Briere and Jones would prefer, looking for another coach or getting out from under Couturier's contract?
mr4tno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.29.2017

Mar 20 @ 11:59 AM ET
Got his eye poked by ND.
- MBFlyerfan

If you listened to Jackson he absolutely demolished him with a right...
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 20 @ 12:01 PM ET
https://twitter.com/BDubi...5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Mar 20 @ 12:03 PM ET
[quote=Feanor]

A tweet embedded in the same article from Villemaire:

"Sean Couturier is the first Captain in the NHL to be healthy scratched since Ed Jovanoksi in 2013-14

(Excluding when players are rested int he last few games of the season"


MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 20 @ 12:03 PM ET
you have strongly implied it .. both last night during the game and this morning
- jd250


LOL, you're wrong again. I specifically said that the Flyers got the better of the puck luck in the game. Not that they were the only team with puck luck. You should review.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 20 @ 12:03 PM ET
What do you think Briere and Jones would prefer, looking for another coach or getting out from under Couturier's contract?
- jd250


Briere will be the first casualty of any internal power struggle.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 20 @ 12:04 PM ET
“Sean won’t learn anything by being in the bleachers tonight,” Lupien said. “He’s not a second-year pro that went through a cold streak. Sean is a leader and the captain of this team, so by putting him in the bleachers, for a player, he’s going to be ashamed to be there tonight. If there’s no communication of why between the two, in 2024, from my perspective, it ain’t always good to coach and establish regimental fear. And these guys are in the playoff picture.

“With your captain, you have to work together as a team. You want to send a message to the other guys, it has to go through your captain and your assistant. So now you’re not communicating with him. So, OK, what’s next?”
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Mar 20 @ 12:04 PM ET
[quote=Feanor]
Is this suppose to be a bad thing?
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Mar 20 @ 12:04 PM ET
https://twitter.com/BDubi17/status/1770441442743275752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1770441442743275752%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
- hello it's me 2050

hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 20 @ 12:05 PM ET
Sure it does ... consider with a true 1C, Frost is your 2C (if he keeps his play up), Couts is 3C and Poehling is 4C .. that is pretty strong IMO
- jd250

in your opinion not mine
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 20 @ 12:06 PM ET
https://twitter.com/BDubi17/status/1770441442743275752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1770441442743275752%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=
- hello it's me 2050


Who does Dubi think Torts is... Jon Cooper?
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Mar 20 @ 12:06 PM ET
Who does Dubi think Torts is... Jon Cooper?
- Tomahawk



Does Torts even know what X / Twitter is?!?
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Mar 20 @ 12:07 PM ET
So does he scratch him again Thursday? Or was one game enough for Couturier to figure out what this coach wants?



- J35Bacher


I'd be kinda shocked if this isn't a one time thing.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 20 @ 12:07 PM ET
Briere will be the first casualty of any internal power struggle.
- Tomahawk

I think if it happens danny boy resigns.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Mar 20 @ 12:08 PM ET
Wouldn't remotely say he looked like a genius. One-goal game, late third period. Not a single Flyers center has won even half the draws. You've scratched your best faceoff guy to "give your team the best lineup to win".

That is didn't end up being costly is a credit to the players on the ice. The coach gets none. He easily could have come away looking bad.

- bmeltzer

Adding Cout's PK qualities that were missed last night to the list above.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 20 @ 12:08 PM ET
I'd be kinda shocked if this isn't a one time thing.
- Pelle31Forever

if torts plays him next game it will look like torts caved in...so he sits again imo
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 20 @ 12:08 PM ET
What do you think Briere and Jones would prefer, looking for another coach or getting out from under Couturier's contract?
- jd250



If they're smart they will look for a new coach as soon as possible.


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