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Thoughts on off season trades below?
To Philadelphia: Josh Norris, Jakob Chychrun
To Ottawa: Sean Couturier, Oliver Bonk, + pick/prospect
To Anaheim: Joonas Korpisalo
To Ottawa: John Gibson - AlfieisKing
Crack is one hell of a drug
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GrimmdaGoalie
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 01.07.2016
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Wondering if our goalies will ever post a 0.900 or above again.
What is the answer going into next season with these duds. Do we buy out Forsberg and send Korpisalo to the ECHL for the remainder of his contract and just eat his salary? - OttawaB
I think we all agree that something has to be done at the goaltender position. Again. Just don't know what it is. Or if anything can be done. With the term left, the Korpo contract is pretty much untradeable unless we add something to it or make it part of a bigger deal. Like Korpo and Chychrun for a bad contract and something we need.
Before they made the deal with SJ and picked up Allen, I was wondering if there was a deal to be had with NJ...Korpo and Chychrun and Thomson for Marino and Vitacek.
I personally think Chychrun has more value at the trade deadline next year. And desperate teams might take a chance on Korpo. I'm stunned the Kings are getting what they are out of Talbot. If Talbot got hurt before the deadline, maybe they would have asked about Korpo.
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Rang
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Joined: 08.21.2006
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I know it was boring jargon, but Staois is right that there could be some interesting names out there after the playoffs in terms of coaches...hell maybe players. - AdamFrench
I think if the Leafs lose in the first round Marner will be available. He would be the most skilled player on your team, by quite a bit.
It would cost you however a name you don't want to give up. Brady Tkachuk.
Essentially trading some skill and lots of power forward characteristics for elite skill you currently don't have ( Stutzle maybe some day but not now). |
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OttawaB
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 08.02.2016
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I think if the Leafs lose in the first round Marner will be available. He would be the most skilled player on your team, by quite a bit.
It would cost you however a name you don't want to give up. Brady Tkachuk.
Essentially trading some skill and lots of power forward characteristics for elite skill you currently don't have ( Stutzle maybe some day but not now). - Rang
That will never happen. Why do we want a sub 6foot player whose points are partly driven by the fact he plays with Matthews. Marner is not "driver". The Sens have already stated that the building of this team is around what Brady Tkachuk brings. Ottawa wants big, fast, hard to play against. In short, we don't want short and fast with little to no jam. Ottawa is already too easy to play against ..... we need more Brady like players. Besides all of this, we don't want a guy that will expect 11-12 million a year. Ridiculous. Especially since we have Brady for 5-6 more years at a tad over $8 million. |
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That will never happen. Why do we want a sub 6foot player whose points are partly driven by the fact he plays with Matthews. Marner is not "driver". The Sens have already stated that the building of this team is around what Brady Tkachuk brings. Ottawa wants big, fast, hard to play against. In short, we don't want short and fast with little to no jam. Ottawa is already too easy to play against ..... we need more Brady like players. Besides all of this, we don't want a guy that will expect 11-12 million a year. Ridiculous. Especially since we have Brady for 5-6 more years at a tad over $8 million. - OttawaB
Dear god, no. Leafs would never do this. The amount of assets that Ottawa would need to attach to Tkachuk would be crazy
Marner is a Selke candidate who also has the ability to put up 100 points each year. Tkachuk has done nothing but lead a team that hasn’t made the playoffs in forever
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OttawaB
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 08.02.2016
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Dear god, no. Leafs would never do this. The amount of assets that Ottawa would need to attach to Tkachuk would be crazy
Marner is a Selke candidate who also has the ability to put up 100 points each year. Tkachuk has done nothing but lead a team that hasn’t made the playoffs in forever - AxlRose91
Tkachuk is exactly the type of player Toronto needs for a lengthy Cup run. Marner gives you nothing in the nitty gritty playoffs.
So you can take Brady Tkachuk AND Chychrun. But it will cost you a future .... we get Marner, Fraser Minten, Easton Cowan, Connor Timmins, and the first round draft pick in 2024. If you want to dance with the devil .........
But Tkachuk gives you the jam you need to advance. Marner is just eye candy for the stats sheet.
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Tkachuk is exactly the type of player Toronto needs for a lengthy Cup run. Marner gives you nothing in the nitty gritty playoffs.
So you can take Brady Tkachuk AND Chychrun. But it will cost you a future .... we get Marner, Fraser Minten, Easton Cowan, Connor Timmins, and the first round draft pick in 2024. If you want to dance with the devil .........
But Tkachuk gives you the jam you need to advance. Marner is just eye candy for the stats sheet. - OttawaB
What are Brady’s playoff stats like? Better than reg season?
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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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Crack is one hell of a drug - AxlRose91
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OttawaB
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 08.02.2016
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Hey ... I can make ridiculous suggestions as well.
From the Ottawa Senators ...
OTTAWA – Ottawa Senators president of hockey operations and general manager Steve Staios announced today that the team has signed forward Stephen Halliday to a two-year, entry-level contract which will commence with the 2024-25 season. For the duration of 2023-24, Halliday has signed an amateur tryout agreement and will report to the American Hockey League’s Belleville Senators.
A native of Ajax, Ont., Halliday, 21, recently completed his second season of college eligibility with the Ohio State University (Big-10) Buckeyes, where he led the team in both assists (26) and points (36) while ranking second in goals (10). He also registered 30 penalty minutes while skating in each of Ohio State's 38 games.
“Stephen showcases a good combination of size and skill which is going to be invaluable to him as he progresses in pro hockey,” said Staios. “As a playmaker who enjoyed success at the collegiate level, we’re pleased with his progress and that he’s made the decision to start his professional career with the Ottawa Senators’ organization.”
A 2024 Hobey Baker Award nominee, Halliday skated in all 78 games for which he was eligible over the course of his two-season collegiate career with Ohio State and recorded 77 points (19 goals, 58 assists) and 49 penalty minutes over that span.
Drafted by the Senators in the fourth round (104th overall) of the 2022 NHL Draft, Halliday led the Buckeyes in scoring in each of his two collegiate campaigns. |
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Rang
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Joined: 08.21.2006
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That will never happen. Why do we want a sub 6foot player whose points are partly driven by the fact he plays with Matthews. Marner is not "driver". The Sens have already stated that the building of this team is around what Brady Tkachuk brings. Ottawa wants big, fast, hard to play against. In short, we don't want short and fast with little to no jam. Ottawa is already too easy to play against ..... we need more Brady like players. Besides all of this, we don't want a guy that will expect 11-12 million a year. Ridiculous. Especially since we have Brady for 5-6 more years at a tad over $8 million. - OttawaB
OK then run it back again and hope it works out better somehow |
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Bartacus
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.08.2019
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OK then run it back again and hope it works out better somehow - Rang
In fairness, this statement applies to both of these teams. |
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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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NJD tonight and EDM tomorrow - c'mon 0 points this weekend! #teamtank |
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NJD tonight and EDM tomorrow - c'mon 0 points this weekend! #teamtank - AlfieisKing
great news that the ARI/SEA game got to OT with ARI winning thus have a 3 point lead over the sens and SEA 9 point, now MTL needs to go on a winning streak |
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GrimmdaGoalie
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 01.07.2016
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NJD tonight and EDM tomorrow - c'mon 0 points this weekend! #teamtank - AlfieisKing
This seems oddly familiar.... |
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david22
Ottawa Senators |
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Joined: 04.15.2008
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great news that the ARI/SEA game got to OT with ARI winning thus have a 3 point lead over the sens and SEA 9 point, now MTL needs to go on a winning streak - Mithos
Let's assume they don't get Celebrini, who should they take around 4 or 5?
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...t-rankings-march-edition/ |
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Let's assume they don't get Celebrini, who should they take around 4 or 5?
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...t-rankings-march-edition/ - david22
Artyom Levshunov or Zayne Parekh.
PIT will be given Celebrini by the NHL because the Crosby era is almost over just like the NHL gave Bedard to CHI because the Kane/Toews era was over. the draft is a sham, the NHL chooses who gets 1st OA |
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OttawaB
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 08.02.2016
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OK then run it back again and hope it works out better somehow - Rang
Kind of an inane remark. So what you are saying is that Ottawa should change it up by trading one of their best players for Mitch Marner, ..... otherwise we are just running it back again. Well, to change it up why don't we trade you Josh Norris for Marner. That way we are changing it up.
I'm surprised you just didn't ask us for Sanderson to "change it up". What Ottawa needs, Toronto doesn't have. We need goalies and a big mobile defensive right handed defenceman. Coincidentally, just what Toronto needs. |
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someone tell the sens that winning is not part of the grand plan! |
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GrimmdaGoalie
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 01.07.2016
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someone tell the sens that winning is not part of the grand plan! - Mithos
Looks like the Jake Allen Experiment isn't going to pay off in NJ.
NJ can look at this game as the nail in their coffin for the season. |
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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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Jacques Martin was hired around Christmas. Since Dec 31 (think his first game back from injury), Chabot has been back to his former self, before DJ took over 5 years ago.
Thomas Chabot - last 33 games played - 8 goals, 23 points
Over 82 games that's 20 goals, 57 points |
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AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Canada, ON Joined: 11.05.2007
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someone tell the sens that winning is not part of the grand plan! - Mithos
Exactly. Habs need to start winning, wtf is St. Louis doing with these guys. |
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someone tell the sens that winning is not part of the grand plan! - Mithos
Hard to know what the grand plan is right now. Some of the stats they were mentioning last night are more than a bit concerning... 20 games since they last scored 5+ goals, and 15 games since they won a game in regulation? Both of those streaks are more than twice as long as the next longest stretches from any part of the season. Not to mention that they also only scored 4+ goals in regulation in 2 of those 20 games, which is a major problem for a team seemingly built to out-score their problems. Factor in their terrible PP%, and a major change to the forward group would hardly be surprising, in addition to their D/G issues. And short of winning the draft lottery, what they need in the short-term isn't coming from this draft, and what they need in the long-term prospect-wise isn't dependent on a top-10 pick. |
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spazzbot
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Location: Maple Zombie Joined: 02.14.2013
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Branstrom,docker can both hit the road. Imo they are a big part of whats wrong with the D.. the only arguement for them to stay is their servicable at their pay rate. Thats not acceptable for a bottom 5 team. |
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OttawaB
Ottawa Senators |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 08.02.2016
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Any draft pick the Sens get will most likely take 2-4 years to develop to be able to play in the NHL. I'm not even convinced that Celebrini is NHL ready at this point. If I drafted him I would get him to go play in the Swiss league for a season rather then send him back to college.
At this point, I'm of the belief that it will be another 2-3 years of development to get this team ready for contention. That goaltending and defence will take a bit of time to change.
Initially I could see them either trade or buyout Forsberg (1 year left). I doubt that Hamonic (buyout his final season, can't bury him in Belleville), Brannstrom (trade), and Chychrun (trade) will be gone. It will take time to get the defence ready. As for goaltending, Sogaard isn't ready yet (will he ever be ready ?) so we need to go get a goalie through trade (nothing worthwhile in free agency). |
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5G on 16 shots... did EDM decide to follow the sens playbook, wow, OTT will finish 7th OA. |
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