You’ve preached not caring about squeaking into the playoffs just to make the playoffs….build a Stanley cup contender or tank.

Holding out the way you have, wouldn’t it indicate you believe they are a contender?

With the understanding of the current direction under Adams, heading into year 5, how close do you think they are to raising the cup?

How long is their window open?

Who do look to in tight situations to come up clutch and snatch victory from defeat?
- washedup20

I want them to squeak in because I’m tired of hearing about the drought.

I’m hoping that it will bring back some rational hockey talk on these threads.

Mediocrity is the worst place to be in professional sports, the reason why I’m not throwing myself off the peace bridge right now is because they have a strong young core, the #1 prospect pool in the league, and roster/salary cap flexibility.

They aren’t the Islanders who have an old roster with everyone signed until age 80.

They aren’t the Red Wings who paid Compher and Copp too much money for too many years and have a bunch of other aging veteran stop gaps.

Flyers are well on their way to creating another mid roster for the next decade after retooling to attempt to get themselves out of the never ending cycle of doom.

Washington and Pittsburgh are on their last breath.

Tampa isn’t too far behind.

The Sabres are really set up well for the next decade plus if they can just put the finishing touches on what they have

Does anyone have any confidence in current leadership putting finishing touches together? I don’t. Until the top of the org chart changes, nothing changes.

The Sabres are really set up well for the next decade plus if they can just put the finishing touches on what they have
- Swedish_Jesus

finishing touches on what?

a soft, undersized perimeter team with a crappy D despite pretty much everyone picked in the first round including 3 picked in the top 4, 2 first overall

I mean they can be close to sneaking to the 8th seed but that is nothing like icing a team that is prepped for constant playoff success

this team would get pushed around by st mary's of the blind hockey team

I want them to squeak in because I’m tired of hearing about the drought.

I’m hoping that it will bring back some rational hockey talk on these threads.

Mediocrity is the worst place to be in professional sports, the reason why I’m not throwing myself off the peace bridge right now is because they have a strong young core, the #1 prospect pool in the league, and roster/salary cap flexibility.

They aren’t the Islanders who have an old roster with everyone signed until age 80.

They aren’t the Red Wings who paid Compher and Copp too much money for too many years and have a bunch of other aging veteran stop gaps.

Flyers are well on their way to creating another mid roster for the next decade after retooling to attempt to get themselves out of the never ending cycle of doom.

Washington and Pittsburgh are on their last breath.

Tampa isn’t too far behind.

The Sabres are really set up well for the next decade plus if they can just put the finishing touches on what they have
- Swedish_Jesus

Dude, they have had a strong prospect pool for 10 years and a decent foundation to build off most of those Years. They don't know what to do with it, just a Horribly Run Organization. And it doesn't matter about other Franchises because the only way the Cycle stops is if the Sabres make it Happen.

Might want to re-read a lot of those odds my guy lol.

Arizona at 69%, Minnesota at 63%, Detroit and New Jersey at 73% a piece.

Philly and Nashville both at 29%.

Thanks for proving my point LOL
- Swedish_Jesus

Both with much better odds even today to make it then the less than 1% Sabres

We were never close with the exception of a few game stretch where we of course puked on ourselves

Watch Tage go on a bender to finish the Year. Finally almost looks himself the last 5 games or so.

Both with much better odds even today to make it then the less than 1% Sabres

We were never close with the exception of a few game stretch where we of course puked on ourselves
- sbroads24

The Sabres are 3-4 in their last 7 games.That’s why they will miss the playoffs.

Plain and simple.

Would it have been nice to string some more wins together in October and November ? Absolutely.

They left points on the table against the Ducks when they completely dominated a hockey game and managed to lose.

They had a 2-1 lead after 2 periods over the Jets and lost in regulation for the first time in over two calendar years after leading after 2.

Donnie Meatstick possibly costed them a point by throwing Skinner out there in OT our last meeting against the Leafs.

Then we have the most recent 3-4 stretch over the past 7 where they blew leads against Detroit and Edmonton.

That’s 4-6 points in the standings right there and the KeyBank Centre would be rocking tonight.

Not because the season ended in (frank)ing November, Jesus H (frank)

The Sabres are 3-4 in their last 7 games.That’s why they will miss the playoffs.

Plain and simple.

Would it have been nice to string some more wins together in October and November ? Absolutely.

They left points on the table against the Ducks when they completely dominated a hockey game and managed to lose.

They had a 2-1 lead after 2 periods over the Jets and lost in regulation for the first time in over two calendar years after leading after 2.

Donnie Meatstick possibly costed them a point by throwing Skinner out there in OT our last meeting against the Leafs.

Then we have the most recent 3-4 stretch over the past 7 where they blew leads against Detroit and Edmonton.

That’s 4-6 points in the standings right there and the KeyBank Centre would be rocking tonight.

Not because the season ended in (frank)ing November, Jesus H (frank)
- Swedish_Jesus

Would you like a cookie or something?

Both with much better odds even today to make it then the less than 1% Sabres

We were never close with the exception of a few game stretch where we of course puked on ourselves
- sbroads24

Kevin Adams is revolutionizing the sport of Hockey. Just remember that.

If I told you in November that the Oilers would win 16 games in a row and that Nashville would rattle off an 18 game point streak would you have believed me ?

You conveniently ignored that also in the last blog when this was brought up.

Imagine telling a Panthers fan they were going to be playing in a Stanley Cup final in November of last year ?

But, but, but they never won 3 in a row in October, who gives a frank they play 82 games for a reason.
- Swedish_Jesus

You're either blind, outright lying, or shooting from the hip.
https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=187148&page=2

You must be lying because you responded....

What evidence was there to show Nashville had a 16 game point streak in them in Nov/Dec ?

Nashville has nothing to do with the Sabres, we are talking Sabres.

But a 6 game W streak in November,
Then winning 8 of 10 in December run.

Thanks for proving my point.
Take the L.

Good on you for retaining hope when realists lost that hope in Nov/Dec....and realists were correct

Another beat my chest moment brought to you by Ion.

Your response in the next post after mine

The “realists” were dead quiet during the 10-5-1 stretch the Sabres were on prior to that defining matinee game in Detroit this past Saturday.

Why ? Because the season wasn’t over in November/December.

Fear porn sells.

My response:

I was in the "i am confident they'll prove me right...I'll be onboard when they get in"
They proved me right, and you were wrong, period. Take the L.

It was fun to see them try to climb out of the abyss, and it reaffirmed that they can play well at times...they just didn't have it in them to do what was necessary. Maybe they shouldn't have dug the abyss by coming into the season ready to go.

Takeaways,
-they have some good players who perform when things are going well.
-they don't have a leader yet who will pull the team forward by demanding excellence and accountability....that drives inconsistency
-the coaching staff held the team back with horrible decisions and inability to adjust.
- - 26 HDCA vs Canucks (Levi saved there asses while the rest threw up on themselves), 19 HDCA vs Oilers....the team quit on themselves

Overall, the team is flawed in critical areas and I have very little hope the necessa4y changes will be delivered. Although, a new roof is coming!!!!



Lastly you still don't know therifference between Possibility" and "Probability"...
It's still possible for the Sabres to win the cup...you should place a bet on it.

Watch Tage go on a bender to finish the Year. Finally almost looks himself the last 5 games or so.
- Buff36

Good, build trade value by somewhat salvaging the year. Go Tage!

The Sabres are 3-4 in their last 7 games.That’s why they will miss the playoffs.

Plain and simple.

Would it have been nice to string some more wins together in October and November ? Absolutely.

They left points on the table against the Ducks when they completely dominated a hockey game and managed to lose.

They had a 2-1 lead after 2 periods over the Jets and lost in regulation for the first time in over two calendar years after leading after 2.

Donnie Meatstick possibly costed them a point by throwing Skinner out there in OT our last meeting against the Leafs.

Then we have the most recent 3-4 stretch over the past 7 where they blew leads against Detroit and Edmonton.

That’s 4-6 points in the standings right there and the KeyBank Centre would be rocking tonight.

Not because the season ended in (frank)ing November, Jesus H (frank)
- Swedish_Jesus

It was a one sided statistical improbability since November. Backed by years of data based on where teams lined up in the standings on American Thanksgiving

They missed the playoffs because they have been a .500 team all season long and did not afford themselves room for the errors you pointed out. The team is flawed big time and unless they go back to outscoring all of their deficiency it is much more than finishing touches needed.

When you posted the other day about all of our prospects I asked you what your plan is to make them a playoff team next year but you didn't answer. Getting younger is not the answer

#32,436 - poor drafting, I was told yesterday.

Seriously though, in order:
1. Roster - GM did not properly construct a winning roster
2. Coaches - relied heavily on washed Vets, line combinations, in-game adjustments lacking, lack of effective preparation, failed system implementation...and my favorite, they wilted under self-imposed pressure
9. PP - their 5v5 game was OK, could have improved for sure. Their PP was dreadful and cost them valuable goals turning close games into losses and no OT points.
10. Defense - way too many HDCA given up.they don't defend well in front of their net. Ties back to 2 and 1.
13. Over achieve / down to Earth fall - false sense of where the roster was by GM in offseason...ties back to 1.
- IonSabres

Laying out what we all know is great.

If you’re a fan next year, the limited options used by the existing GM will be the focus. The failures will magnify and the compounding failures will be significant.

You continue to repeat what was known a year ago. You continue to sound like someone who hasn’t been paying attention.

There will be no large scale changes, but please continue to harp on last seasons problems.

Predictions made.

NYR blew their load and killed their future acquiring Kane and co and only had a one year shot.
Boston was going to start to suck (multiple years)
Tampa would suck (multiple years)
Florida couldn’t maintain their success.
NJ and Buffalo would overtake the conference they were just waiting for the other teams to bow out.

Also last offseason was going to be the “no excuses summer” which lasted about 1 month before the excuses started.

I want them to squeak in because I’m tired of hearing about the drought.

I’m hoping that it will bring back some rational hockey talk on these threads.

Mediocrity is the worst place to be in professional sports, the reason why I’m not throwing myself off the peace bridge right now is because they have a strong young core, the #1 prospect pool in the league, and roster/salary cap flexibility.

They aren’t the Islanders who have an old roster with everyone signed until age 80.

They aren’t the Red Wings who paid Compher and Copp too much money for too many years and have a bunch of other aging veteran stop gaps.

Flyers are well on their way to creating another mid roster for the next decade after retooling to attempt to get themselves out of the never ending cycle of doom.

Washington and Pittsburgh are on their last breath.

Tampa isn’t too far behind.

The Sabres are really set up well for the next decade plus if they can just put the finishing touches on what they have
- Swedish_Jesus

A lot of fluff, your last paragraph is pure imagination

It was a one sided statistical improbability since November. Backed by years of data based on where teams lined up in the standings on American Thanksgiving

They missed the playoffs because they have been a .500 team all season long and did not afford themselves room for the errors you pointed out. The team is flawed big time and unless they go back to outscoring all of their deficiency it is much more than finishing touches needed.

When you posted the other day about all of our prospects I asked you what your plan is to make them a playoff team next year but you didn't answer. Getting younger is not the answer
- ieetbred

Thank. You.

Even worse than arguing about when the season was really shot is how little improvement they needed to make it this year

Topped off by management and staff that couldn't achieve such little improvement being brought back

The Sabres are 3-4 in their last 7 games.That’s why they will miss the playoffs.

Plain and simple.

Would it have been nice to string some more wins together in October and November ? Absolutely.

They left points on the table against the Ducks when they completely dominated a hockey game and managed to lose.

They had a 2-1 lead after 2 periods over the Jets and lost in regulation for the first time in over two calendar years after leading after 2.

Donnie Meatstick possibly costed them a point by throwing Skinner out there in OT our last meeting against the Leafs.

Then we have the most recent 3-4 stretch over the past 7 where they blew leads against Detroit and Edmonton.

That’s 4-6 points in the standings right there and the KeyBank Centre would be rocking tonight.

Not because the season ended in (frank)ing November, Jesus H (frank)
- Swedish_Jesus

This is hilarious, pure Gold!
You continue to prove the point. The probability of them going on a 4 game win streak 5 times over the past 23 games was 0.01%...and guess what? They (frank)ing wilted every gd time! Smart people play probabilities. People who think they are smart, give lots of hope to extreme possibilities then pull poop out of their ass and proclaim to eveyone it could have been gold.

Holy fvck dude, you continue to dig an abyss...just like your Sabres did in Oct - Dec, which once again, lived up to the historical probability that they were cooked.

They have won 3 in a row twice, 1 in Feb and 1 in March. Yet you held to the belief that if they won 20 of 23 games (example, but serves the purpose very well) they could beat 6 other teams for the wc2 position.

You're either blind, outright lying, or shooting from the hip.
https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=187148&page=2

You must be lying because you responded....


Nashville has nothing to do with the Sabres, we are talking Sabres.

But a 6 game W streak in November,
Then winning 8 of 10 in December run.

Thanks for proving my point.
Take the L.

Good on you for retaining hope when realists lost that hope in Nov/Dec....and realists were correct

Another beat my chest moment brought to you by Ion.

Your response in the next post after mine


My response:

I was in the "i am confident they'll prove me right...I'll be onboard when they get in"
They proved me right, and you were wrong, period. Take the L.

It was fun to see them try to climb out of the abyss, and it reaffirmed that they can play well at times...they just didn't have it in them to do what was necessary. Maybe they shouldn't have dug the abyss by coming into the season ready to go.

Takeaways,
-they have some good players who perform when things are going well.
-they don't have a leader yet who will pull the team forward by demanding excellence and accountability....that drives inconsistency
-the coaching staff held the team back with horrible decisions and inability to adjust.
- - 26 HDCA vs Canucks (Levi saved there asses while the rest threw up on themselves), 19 HDCA vs Oilers....the team quit on themselves

Overall, the team is flawed in critical areas and I have very little hope the necessa4y changes will be delivered. Although, a new roof is coming!!!!



Lastly you still don't know therifference between Possibility" and "Probability"...
It's still possible for the Sabres to win the cup...you should place a bet on it.
- IonSabres

Arizona and Minnesota had double the probability that Nashville had to make the playoffs on December 1st.

That’s why they play the games.

I applaud MoneyPuck for displaying these odds, and they don’t just throw poop at the well to see if it sticks. They do use the underlyings of the respective teams and use strength of schedule amongst other things.

The issue is, when dealing with so many different variables, it’s nearly impossible to accurately predict a sport with endless permutations possible.

Edmonton and Nashville had lower odds than Arizona and Minnesota.

That’s why they play the games. And the Sabres had ample opportunity the past two months to accrue more points as I outlined in my previous post

That’s why they play the games. And the Sabres had ample opportunity the past two months to accrue more points as I outlined in my previous post
- Swedish_Jesus

Right, and you're right 4 to 6 points keybank would be rocking

But they didn't and there was nothing to suggest they could or would. 6K is the only reason there was an idea about it

Laying out what we all know is great.

If you’re a fan next year, the limited options used by the existing GM will be the focus. The failures will magnify and the compounding failures will be significant.

You continue to repeat what was known a year ago. You continue to sound like someone who hasn’t been paying attention.

There will be no large scale changes, but please continue to harp on last seasons problems.
- washedup20

What the F is your problem?
This year's problems are the same as last years problems...of course I harp on them.

I have repeatedly said nothing is going to happen of significance, however I state what I think should be done. There are few on here who do, including yourself who continues to throw poop at the wall. We all know nothing will get done...yet the common refrain from the masses is something al9ng the lines of "what would you do, what should they do" and my posts answer those questions.
You should try it sometime. Only pussies don't.

Even worse than arguing about when the season was really shot is how little improvement they needed to make it this year

Topped off by management and staff that couldn't achieve such little improvement being brought back
- ieetbred

the mindset all offseason was to go from 9th to 8th in the east and end the draught

the mindset should have been to improve on last season and try to go from 9th in the east to a cup contender


everyone sets the bar low for this franchise and time's up

This is hilarious, pure Gold!
You continue to prove the point. The probability of them going on a 4 game win streak 5 times over the past 23 games was 0.01%...and guess what? They (frank)ing wilted every gd time! Smart people play probabilities. People who think they are smart, give lots of hope to extreme possibilities then pull poop out of their ass and proclaim to eveyone it could have been gold.

Holy fvck dude, you continue to dig an abyss...just like your Sabres did in Oct - Dec, which once again, lived up to the historical probability that they were cooked.

They have won 3 in a row twice, 1 in Feb and 1 in March. Yet you held to the belief that if they won 20 of 23 games (example, but serves the purpose very well) they could beat 6 other teams for the wc2 position.

- IonSabres

Imagine telling someone that SMCI stock was going from $88 to $1,200 in a calendar year.

Imagine telling a St Louis Blues fan they were winning the cup when they fired their coach and hired Craig Berube.

Imagine telling a Panthers fan they were going to the Stanley Cup final in November last year when Papa Tkachuk was laying into them calling them frauds in (frank)ing January.

Statistical improbabilities happen every (frank)ing day of your life.

I don’t need to learn the difference between Possibility vs Probabilities.

You need to learn the difference between Hypothetical vs an Absolute.

A lot of fluff, your last paragraph is pure imagination
- washedup20

Right, and you're right 4 to 6 points keybank would be rocking

But they didn't and there was nothing to suggest they could or would. 6K is the only reason there was an idea about it
- ieetbred

Right, and there was nothing to suggest Nashville would go on an 18 game heater and here we are lol