And totally oblivious to the prior game. Didn’t show up on the advanced stat sheet
- ClaudeFather

It’s hysterical, isn’t it?

It's not a false narrative. It's well documented that Theo Epstein used moneyball philosophies with the Red Sox.
- MJL

Yes Theo was a nerd, but he had Larry Lucchino who ran the Red Sox and was an old school baseball guy meaning he wanted to spend money and he wanted to sign star players. This is what I meant about balance. If a team goes too far in one direction or the other, it becomes a disaster.

anyone else see this...Farabee and Frost fight at practice:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1775597082126021000
- TheFreak

They have to meet their “balls” quota before the next game to avoid being benched

It's not irrelevant. At the end of the season rankings by Points and P% give you the same results. So it's just as relevant as total points.
- Feanor

Ha ha.

That is Monty Pythonesque.

Tortorella is burning the boats in an attempt to get the Flyers into the playoffs this year. I don’t know why anyone has a problem with this. He’s using every bullet this year and will have nothing left for next season meaning his tenure is almost up. Everyone should be happy
- psuhockey

I agree...

This is what Eric Tulsky's LinkedIn profile reads:

My training is in inorganic chemistry, and I spent ten years working as a researcher, manager, and project leader working to use nanomaterials for biological and energy applications.

So in other words, he is a nerd that has never actually played the game. It's a scene out of Moneyball.
- jd250

You must be a time traveler from the 1600s.

The things you say ....

anyone else see this...Farabee and Frost fight at practice:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1775597082126021000
- TheFreak

This is not real is it?

Yes Theo was a nerd, but he had Larry Lucchino who ran the Red Sox and was an old school baseball guy meaning he wanted to spend money and he wanted to sign star players. This is what I meant about balance. If a team goes too far in one direction or the other, it becomes a disaster.
- jd250

It's well documented that Epstein used moneyball tactics with the Red Sox. It is not a false narrative.

morning cliff, how did you sleep?

any new fresh topics you want to discuss or will you troll jd all day.

post your lineup for tomorrows game, lets talk about it.

any update on your dad? he looking for work or chilling?
- hello it's me 2050

He passed away 2 years ago.

I don't get the excessive Torts hate, the Risto hate, the Brindy love, the Frost love/hate, the Bobby Clarke hate etc etc.

Folks, here is (y)our dilemma:

1. By far the biggest determinant in NHL success is talent.

2. The best way to get talent in the salary cap age is via draft.

3. The best way to get talent in draft is via tanking. (no, not via "draft and developing")

4. Even with tanking + said talent, your chances of getting a cup in the next 15 odd years are probably 25% (it is probably 5% without tanking). In other words, even with tanking you are far more likely to fail

5. Tanking however for sure involves loss of revenue.

6. This loss of revenue is multiplcative when you are owned by a media giant who relies on programming and related for advertising revenues, lead-ins to other programs and so on.

7. When you have a legacy audience who wants you to "play the right way", it is even more risky to tank. Not only is there a high chance you fail anyway, you might destroy your brand with that legacy audience.

8. The only equilibrium here is to muddle along. A bit of this, a bit of that. Keep the revenue streams stable. Make reassuring noises about rebuilding.

There are no villains in this story. Torts is largely irrelevant. The incentives are what drives the product.

I don't get the excessive Torts hate, the Risto hate, the Brindy love, the Frost love/hate, the Bobby Clarke hate etc etc.

Folks, here is (y)our dilemma:

1. By far the biggest determinant in NHL success is talent.

- PT21

Lets just look at the people you named and how it applies to your first bullet point.

Talent needs to be developed. Tortorella in my opinion, is about the worst coach you could have for young player development. Even if you obtained talent, it has to be developed. Ristolainen is a player that the Flyers gave up assets that could've been potentially used to acquire talent. Instead of going for a quick fix. Brind'Amour is an outstanding coach for developing young talent. Morgan Frost is a talented player the Flyers have that has been mishandled. Who in my opinion would be further along in his development if he played for a coach, say Brind'Amour who was better at cultivating talent. Clarke, along with the rest of the alumni that have been involved, have kept this franchise from being properly run and focusing on collecting young talent. That's just how it applies to your first bullet point and how it's not at all irrelevant.