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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 7 @ 8:40 AM ET
Btw the Atkinson breakaway was hilariously pathetic lol. He has to understand he’s stealing money at this point
- Just5


Yes. I remember when he used to be able to score on those ffs.

I can’t believe how badly they’ve collapsed. After the win vs Boston at home, I thought we’d be able to make the dance.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 7 @ 8:42 AM ET
I disagree. The Flyers needed a top 4 lefty vet to pair with Drysdale and Seeler was cheap and here already. If they didn’t resign him they would have had to bring in another guy in the offseason.
- psuhockey


I’m not going to kill him over it. Not for 2.7 million. Do you think DB will be content riding out the Atkinson/Johansen contracts and send them to the A if necessary?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 7 @ 8:45 AM ET
Yes. I remember when he used to be able to score on those ffs.

I can’t believe how badly they’ve collapsed. After the win vs Boston at home, I thought we’d be able to make the dance.

- Hextall271


Even if he didn’t whiff he still wouldn’t have scored the pad was right there lol
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 7 @ 8:47 AM ET
Jet greaves. The latest scrub the flyers have showcased
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 7 @ 9:03 AM ET
morning peeps, thick cut challah bread French toast.

lets get to it:

- this management group has no clue. No plan. No nothing. The "claimed" rebuild" and lied to your face. Knowing many will accept it. 

- the 3 stooges were smug and patting themselves on the back seeing where they were in the standings as that was what they were shooting for. Playoffs was always the goal.

- this is another failed retool on the fly BS. clearly the wharton certificate grad has learned nothing.

- the failed at the deadline. Cant trade scotty as he owes it to him to see if he can win with this group. when what you fn bozo's. only traded walker as they tried to re-sign him. res-signed pohlig who is a dime a dozen player. wasted a 4th for a dman on a defensively bad sabres team. re-sign seeler. Just laughable. 

- they forced the culture mantra down your throat. flyers culture. losing culture for 50 years. Convincing the dopes that hard work will lead to success. 


- the coach is a fraud and not sure how any player in that room can respect him at this point. 

- new era of orange is built around the head coach. you seem them pulling the plug after 1 year?

- hope a few more players ask out. if not probably 90% of this lineup will be back next year. let that sink in as other teams pass them easily. 

- another wasted year that ste them back further.

- does any of this nonsense effect what MM may want to do?

- what will the spin be after the season? we exceeded expectation lol? will the players who are nothing special get the blame? dont want to hear any excuses for danny boy like he has only been o the job less than year crap. He has been less than impressive. 
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 7 @ 9:05 AM ET
True but you gotta start someplace

There are a few of these players that have potential and will be here if and when that happens but this team in the here and now even being in a position to compete for a playoff spot was a shock to me whether or not the teams below them at the time who have put on their surge to surpass them now wasnt expected.

The horrendous PP is the result of that lack of the talent you need to progress into being one of those teams. Cant expect middle of the pack numbers from a bunch that wouldnt be higher than the 3rd line on the majority of teams in the NHL with a couple of exceptions

Thanks for the reply!

- jackfrost

potential for what? there are no top end players on this roster. they have what most nhl teams already have, those teams also have more.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 7 @ 9:05 AM ET
Yes. I remember when he used to be able to score on those ffs.

I can’t believe how badly they’ve collapsed. After the win vs Boston at home, I thought we’d be able to make the dance.

- Hextall271



Atkinson plays with pace, he skates hard, he looks like he is battling as hard as anyone, he LOOKS like he is moving fast....but accomplishes absolutely nothing expending all that energy.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 7 @ 9:06 AM ET
Regardless of the disappointment, it’s was finally a fun year. There was hope. GMDB did the right thing by selling on Walker. Maybe missed some opportunities but could be a fun off season. I just it’s not the penguins in the playoffs
- mikeyo27

they didnt want to trade him though, let that sink in
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 7 @ 9:07 AM ET
DB just didn’t go far enough. He wanted to give the vets a chance, the guys that got them to this point. This is how they repaid him.
- landros 2

they repaid him by showing him they are not that good and the gm clearly overvalued said players. made the gm look like a dope, which he just very well may be
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:09 AM ET
DB did fine. He did what he had to do and traded Walker. I’m not a fan of resigning Seeler though. That reeks of the grip torts has on the flyers.
- Just5


Weeks after…I’m still on the fence with Seeler…lol.

I watch him play and see a guy that could be the # 6 on any blue line in the NHL. He’s not overly expensive and brings intangibles that others simply don’t. I guess if I knew what offers were for him I could agree he should have been moved but if it was only a mid to late round pick I’m fine with him as a player, staying….age wise the signing is cringe worthy, but I get why they kept him.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 7 @ 9:09 AM ET
I disagree. The Flyers needed a top 4 lefty vet to pair with Drysdale and Seeler was cheap and here already. If they didn’t resign him they would have had to bring in another guy in the offseason.
- psuhockey

and? you find the next seeler. that's how you acquire assets t build. seeler should 100% have been traded.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 7 @ 9:11 AM ET
Atkinson plays with pace, he skates hard, he looks like he is battling as hard as anyone, he LOOKS like he is moving fast....but accomplishes absolutely nothing expending all that energy.
- MBFlyerfan

nodl?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:14 AM ET
they repaid him by showing him they are not that good and the gm clearly overvalued said players. made the gm look like a dope, which he just very well may be
- hello it's me 2050


Well I guess we’ll see. It’s still early in his tenure. I see mixed results so far…some really good….some average….some poor.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 7 @ 9:18 AM ET
Well I guess we’ll see. It’s still early in his tenure. I see mixed results so far…some really good….some average….some poor.
- landros 2

what was really good?
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Apr 7 @ 9:23 AM ET
morning peeps, thick cut challah bread French toast.

lets get to it:

- this management group has no clue. No plan. No nothing. The "claimed" rebuild" and lied to your face. Knowing many will accept it. 

- the 3 stooges were smug and patting themselves on the back seeing where they were in the standings as that was what they were shooting for. Playoffs was always the goal.

- this is another failed retool on the fly BS. clearly the wharton certificate grad has learned nothing.

- the failed at the deadline. Cant trade scotty as he owes it to him to see if he can win with this group. when what you fn bozo's. only traded walker as they tried to re-sign him. res-signed pohlig who is a dime a dozen player. wasted a 4th for a dman on a defensively bad sabres team. re-sign seeler. Just laughable. 

- they forced the culture mantra down your throat. flyers culture. losing culture for 50 years. Convincing the dopes that hard work will lead to success. 


- the coach is a fraud and not sure how any player in that room can respect him at this point. 

- new era of orange is built around the head coach. you seem them pulling the plug after 1 year?

- hope a few more players ask out. if not probably 90% of this lineup will be back next year. let that sink in as other teams pass them easily. 

- another wasted year that ste them back further.

- does any of this nonsense effect what MM may want to do?

- what will the spin be after the season? we exceeded expectation lol? will the players who are nothing special get the blame? dont want to hear any excuses for danny boy like he has only been o the job less than year crap. He has been less than impressive. 

- hello it's me 2050


The trade deadline was a buyers market. No sense in trading a guy if your getting even value unless your trading a surplus position for a need. The flyers need centers so Laughton was staying.
I’ll agree for the most part on Walker. They didn’t need to sign him at all. The flyers need assets.
Changing a locker room culture is valid. If you have guys just going through the motions and playing out contracts then that’s an issue.
I’m for Torts getting shown the door.
We all can speculate on on what DB will do but we don’t know.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:24 AM ET
I hear you also like big black men. Congrats on that!
- Phillywhiteout


Racism and homophobia first thing on a beautiful Sunday morning. Sweet.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 7 @ 9:27 AM ET
The trade deadline was a buyers market. No sense in trading a guy if your getting even value unless your trading a surplus position for a need. The flyers need centers so Laughton was staying.
I’ll agree for the most part on Walker. They didn’t need to sign him at all. The flyers need assets.
Changing a locker room culture is valid. If you have guys just going through the motions and playing out contracts then that’s an issue.
I’m for Torts getting shown the door.
We all can speculate on on what DB will do but we don’t know.

- bird_dog_pa

- they didnt trade Laughton because they didn't want to. it is that simple.

- so they gonna change the culture again this summer? as the coach/gm said there ae players not bringing it or whatever it was he said. Maybe if they traded all the core guys ( tk Laughton sanheim and wishful thinking ex selke) who have been here and accept losing that culture will change. losing is all they know.

- correct we don't know what danny boy will do. I am pretty confident it will be the sam eold BS.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Apr 7 @ 9:27 AM ET
Racism and homophobia first thing on a beautiful Sunday morning. Sweet.
- Dkos

just curious how was what he said racism?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:28 AM ET
morning peeps, thick cut challah bread French toast.

lets get to it:

- this management group has no clue. No plan. No nothing. The "claimed" rebuild" and lied to your face. Knowing many will accept it. 

- the 3 stooges were smug and patting themselves on the back seeing where they were in the standings as that was what they were shooting for. Playoffs was always the goal.

- this is another failed retool on the fly BS. clearly the wharton certificate grad has learned nothing.

- the failed at the deadline. Cant trade scotty as he owes it to him to see if he can win with this group. when what you fn bozo's. only traded walker as they tried to re-sign him. res-signed pohlig who is a dime a dozen player. wasted a 4th for a dman on a defensively bad sabres team. re-sign seeler. Just laughable. 

- they forced the culture mantra down your throat. flyers culture. losing culture for 50 years. Convincing the dopes that hard work will lead to success. 


- the coach is a fraud and not sure how any player in that room can respect him at this point. 

- new era of orange is built around the head coach. you seem them pulling the plug after 1 year?

- hope a few more players ask out. if not probably 90% of this lineup will be back next year. let that sink in as other teams pass them easily. 

- another wasted year that ste them back further.

- does any of this nonsense effect what MM may want to do?

- what will the spin be after the season? we exceeded expectation lol? will the players who are nothing special get the blame? dont want to hear any excuses for danny boy like he has only been o the job less than year crap. He has been less than impressive. 

- hello it's me 2050



I think the culture is a real thing. It has improved this year.

I think some of the younger guys have taken steps. I now see some players whom you can move forward with.

I see a team that until game 70 was in pretty much 95% of games and made it easier to tune in every night.

I see DB still sitting at the cross roads and I don’t know why? It’s apparent what they should do. They have the buy in from the fane base. It doesn’t have to be complete tear down. They do have some pieces that are worthy of developing.

This summer is now huge. They can’t afford any more Cutter Gauthier scenarios…not like they could afford it to begin with…it still is a massive failure for this franchise and may still set them back.

I won’t toot DBs horn…but I also think he deserves some time. If he comes out and says there won’t be any changes or it’s going to be a quiet summer, then i think we’ll have our answer about the quality of GM we actually have.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:29 AM ET
DB did fine. He did what he had to do and traded Walker. I’m not a fan of resigning Seeler though. That reeks of the grip torts has on the flyers.
- Just5

I’m not too crazy about the Tippett contract either
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Apr 7 @ 9:32 AM ET
I’m not going to kill him over it. Not for 2.7 million. Do you think DB will be content riding out the Atkinson/Johansen contracts and send them to the A if necessary?
- Just5

I think it will show how long they view this rebuild. If they buy them out they intend to stink for two more seasons. If they ride it out, they view the summer of 2025 as a time to starting adding serious UFAs.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:33 AM ET
what was really good?
- hello it's me 2050



I liked his draft.
I liked that he has added some decent draft capital.
I liked the Provorov trade if only because they brought in Sean Walker.
I may be in the minority…but I really like the Hathaway signing.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Apr 7 @ 9:35 AM ET
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 7 @ 9:35 AM ET
I’m not too crazy about the Tippett contract either
- Dkos


I watch him and think….he’s on the cusp….but can he take that next step?
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Apr 7 @ 9:37 AM ET
morning peeps, thick cut challah bread French toast.

lets get to it:

- this management group has no clue. No plan. No nothing. The "claimed" rebuild" and lied to your face. Knowing many will accept it. 

- the 3 stooges were smug and patting themselves on the back seeing where they were in the standings as that was what they were shooting for. Playoffs was always the goal.

- this is another failed retool on the fly BS. clearly the wharton certificate grad has learned nothing.

- the failed at the deadline. Cant trade scotty as he owes it to him to see if he can win with this group. when what you fn bozo's. only traded walker as they tried to re-sign him. res-signed pohlig who is a dime a dozen player. wasted a 4th for a dman on a defensively bad sabres team. re-sign seeler. Just laughable. 

- they forced the culture mantra down your throat. flyers culture. losing culture for 50 years. Convincing the dopes that hard work will lead to success. 


- the coach is a fraud and not sure how any player in that room can respect him at this point. 

- new era of orange is built around the head coach. you seem them pulling the plug after 1 year?

- hope a few more players ask out. if not probably 90% of this lineup will be back next year. let that sink in as other teams pass them easily. 

- another wasted year that ste them back further.

- does any of this nonsense effect what MM may want to do?

- what will the spin be after the season? we exceeded expectation lol? will the players who are nothing special get the blame? dont want to hear any excuses for danny boy like he has only been o the job less than year crap. He has been less than impressive. 

- hello it's me 2050
There's our morning ray of sunstroke!! I guess you're happy as a clam this morning although still quite whiney I see. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE GONNA DO THIS SUMMER, so just stop please for the love of God!! Thanks!
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