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pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Apr 17 @ 3:33 PM ET
not impossible.
to me it depends on 2 things:
1- will Hughes find 1 or 2 top6 forwards
2- will they stop playing man to man
3- limited injuries

- fidopro


Fixed..
mr.peanut
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Born Wearing Gold 2023-24: 6-0-0, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Apr 17 @ 3:34 PM ET
IS PAT SAFE?!!?
- Mashadar

Only in my arms
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Apr 17 @ 3:35 PM ET
Oh boy.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Apr 17 @ 3:36 PM ET
Fixed..
- pete26

meh, they didn't have that many injuries this season.
the entire 1st line was not injured. their 2 vet dmen (Savard and Matheson) were not injured. their goalies were not injured....
yes they lost Dach for the season, but beside that injuries were not really a factor imo.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 17 @ 3:36 PM ET
Goals For/Against: -53 ... need we say more?
- Garfield512



yeah, I'm not an advanced stat expert but I think teams are looking at way more than this.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 17 @ 3:38 PM ET
meh, they didn't have that many injuries this season.
the entire 1st line was not injured. their 2 vet dmen (Savard and Matheson) were not injured. their goalies were not injured....
yes they lost Dach for the season, but beside that injuries were not really a factor imo.

- fidopro



I wouldn't want the team to use injuries as an excuse, and they haven't, but you can't downplay the impact of losing one your best players for a whole year on a rebuilding team, it is what it is.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Apr 17 @ 3:38 PM ET
yeah, I'm not an advanced stat expert but I think teams are looking at way more than this.
- Pat1993

Friendly tip ... look at the goal differential for teams in the playoffs and those outside.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 17 @ 3:39 PM ET
Only in my arms
- mr.peanut



what a gloriously awkward moment.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 17 @ 3:40 PM ET
Friendly tip ... look at the goal differential for teams in the playoffs and those outside.
- Garfield512



yeah, I'm still not going to agree that the stat you keep pointing at is all that reliable, sorry.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Apr 17 @ 3:40 PM ET
meh, they didn't have that many injuries this season.
the entire 1st line was not injured. their 2 vet dmen (Savard and Matheson) were not injured. their goalies were not injured....
yes they lost Dach for the season, but beside that injuries were not really a factor imo.

- fidopro


Well losing Dach may have been the difference in all those one goal extra frame losses..
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Apr 17 @ 3:42 PM ET
Friendly tip ... look at the goal differential for teams in the playoffs and those outside.
- Garfield512


This..
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 17 @ 3:44 PM ET
Well losing Dach may have been the difference in all those one goal extra frame losses..
- pete26



I don't think fido is a big fan of MSL, all of his blame is basically put on him lol
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Apr 17 @ 3:44 PM ET
yeah, I'm still not going to agree that the stat you keep pointing at is all that reliable, sorry.
- Pat1993

... unbelievable, even a (frank)ing blind man can see it.

WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Apr 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
Martin drops a poop bomb, and leaves..
- pete26





What else is there to say! Look at the standings, stats, the pp, pk…they tried different things but there’s no clear improvement.


Silver lining is seeing some kids reallllly improving.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 17 @ 3:49 PM ET
... unbelievable, even a (frank)ing blind man can see it.
- Garfield512



I'm trying to stay respectful here...

that stat is the equivalent of saying "good teams score more goals, and give away less".

wow, such an earth-shattering discovery.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Apr 17 @ 3:52 PM ET
I'm trying to stay respectful here...

that stat is the equivalent of saying "good teams score more goals, and give away less".

wow, such an earth-shattering discovery.

- Pat1993

Same here ... but man you make it hard.

The stats are right there in front of you ... either you know nothing about hockey or you're just being your usual contrarian self again.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Apr 17 @ 3:53 PM ET
I don't think fido is a big fan of MSL, all of his blame is basically put on him lol
- Pat1993


He’s been good at helping some yougins develop, but overall I’m not a big fan either..
The Judge
Seattle Kraken
Joined: 08.30.2021

Apr 17 @ 3:57 PM ET
He’s been good at helping some yougins develop, but overall I’m not a big fan either..
- pete26



I think he could have been better, and he will get better. People seem to forget, he is pretty much a rookie in hiis current job himself. I will be looking for improvements in his overall coaching next year.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Apr 17 @ 3:58 PM ET
I think he could have been better, and he will get better. People seem to forget, he is pretty much a rookie in hiis current job himself. I will be looking for improvements in his overall coaching next year.
- The Judge


Yup..
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 17 @ 4:01 PM ET
Same here ... but man you make it hard.

The stats are right there in front of you ... either you know nothing about hockey or you're just being your usual contrarian self again.

- Garfield512



1- if you can't have a hockey conversation with people who disagree with you without relying on insults, that's your thing, but if you want to go that route I'll happily oblige

2- you haven't adressed the important part where I'm saying that the +/- stat barely tells you anything.
fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Apr 17 @ 4:05 PM ET
He’s been good at helping some yougins develop, but overall I’m not a big fan either..
- pete26


they should hire a vet coach to help, and tell him listen grandpa, you're in charge of the defensive system, Martin will take care of the offense.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 17 @ 4:10 PM ET
they should hire a vet coach to help, and tell him listen grandpa, you're in charge of the defensive system, Martin will take care of the offense.
- fidopro



Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Apr 17 @ 4:13 PM ET
1- if you can't have a hockey conversation with people who disagree with you without relying on insults, that's your thing, but if you want to go that route I'll happily oblige

2- you haven't adressed the important part where I'm saying that the +/- stat barely tells you anything.

- Pat1993

I can have a casual conversation as long as the other side is not intellectually dishonest.

The stats are (frank)ing OBVIOUS, the +/- is one of the factors in what makes a playoff team or not. If you can't see that then I'll consider you're just (frank)ing with me or you just don't know much about hockey.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Apr 17 @ 4:14 PM ET
I can have a casual conversation as long as the other side is not intellectually dishonest.

The stats are (frank)ing OBVIOUS, the +/- is one of the factors in what makes a playoff team or not. If you can't see that then I'll consider you're just (frank)ing with me or you just don't know much about hockey.

- Garfield512


good teams score more goals and give away less, water is wet.... and?
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Apr 17 @ 4:14 PM ET
1- if you can't have a hockey conversation with people who disagree with you without relying on insults, that's your thing, but if you want to go that route I'll happily oblige

2- you haven't adressed the important part where I'm saying that the +/- stat barely tells you anything.

- Pat1993


#PatGotFree
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