These are the teams with cap overages starting next season. What is interesting is that Vegas is NOT on the list.

Overage Penalties for 2024-25
Team Overage Penalty
Edmonton Oilers $3,450,000*
Dallas Stars $2,595,407
Washington Capitals $2,252,500
Los Angeles Kings $1,850,000
New Jersey Devils $1,538,897
Montréal Canadiens $1,022,500
Ottawa Senators $850,000
New York Rangers $512,500*
Minnesota Wild $425,000*
Philadelphia Flyers $245,000
Boston Bruins $50,000*
(Florida Panthers) ($500,000)**
(Carolina Hurricanes) ($50,450)***
- LAHawk

Cap overages in this case only relate to bonus payments. VGK does not have a single NHL roster player with a performance bonus clause in their contract.

Bonus overages are a machination in the Collective Bargaining Agreement that allows for teams to reward certain players – those on entry-level contracts, those signing over 35 years of age, and those coming off significant injury – with attainable performance-based bonuses. They do not apply to the cap at the time they are signed, but only once they are attained. If a team finishes the season with salary cap space, the bonuses attained are subtracted from that excess cushion. If a team finishes with zero cap space, it is applied as a carryover bonus overage to the following season.

Think it was 2-3 yrs ago I asked you, as a Canadian, is what's up with Josh Morrisey? Is he gonna be a solid NHLer? .... For some it takes time but for the others the sooner the organIzation realizes a player isn't gonna be what they thought he was gonna be the better.

And yes, the Hawks must get their top 4 pick right this yr and what's best about that is after the top pick the next tier has about 6ish players so they're gonna get a good one. In theory of course.

As far as will Frankie cause the Hawks to "adjust" their top pick, I hope not. But, I bet if you polled 100 GM's 95% would say they drafted the BPA but 50% would admit they find ways to justify to pick an area of need. ...... A team that is desperate for a top pairing Dman would probably take one when they have a winger rated "slightly" above him.

Watching Makar tonight snap off that shot that was tipped in took my mind to Parekh. The exact kinda play he makes.
- Mr Ricochet

Agree with you 100%. Drafting wingers who can score is OK but we both know the key positions GM's want to draft from the best talent available is defence and center, (not necessarily in that order).

If he isn't lucky enough to get Celebrini, seems to me KD will have to project what gives him best long term bang for the buck - one of a large number of good Dmen available or the big center from the WHL Drafting anywhere in the top 4 means looking for a kid who will play very well in the league for 10+ years. Big decision.

Listened to a guy say Bowers can play the slot, besides in 2 tight end sets. He'd be a nightmare matchup for a defense when he plays slot receiver.

Any idea what his 40 time is? ...... No doubt a freakish kinda athlete.
- Mr Ricochet

Meh? When you win the game upfront you can't lose assuming you have a QB. I'm going OL or DL. In the immortal words of Burt Reynolds "protect your quarterback."

Ive been watching the Hawks since 89 and that might be one of the worst trio of Dman ive ever seen.
- SaskHawkFan

Timo Timmonen counts as three bad defense men.

Probably not a real good idea to draft for specific position or slotting a player already with only 2 NHL games under his belt.
But this team is so talent short up front they have to do something to start fixing that.

Now if you promised me Levshunov will turn into an Alex Pietrangelo or Drew Doughty I'd be all in.
- RickJ

Draisaitl.

Bowers recent medical procedure may snuff any trades up for him.
- wiz1901






https://theathletic.com/5...nabers-harrison-williams/

"Marvin Harrison, Rome Odunze … and Malik Nabers above them both

“(Harrison’s) not No. 1 to me,” said a veteran NFL receivers coach, whose team is in the market for another top receiver, and whom we’ll ID as WR Coach 1. “(LSU’s Malik) Nabers is the No. 1 on my list and I think he is on a lot of people’s lists. He’s just different to me. I don’t think it’s anything toward Marvin, it’s just really that Nabers is that good. His skills with the ball in his hands are really different. His acceleration is just different. His explosive is different. He tracks the ball really well. He’s a smaller guy but he can still play outside. He’s rare in a lot of ways. He’s got some Ja’Marr Chase in him, some DJ Moore skills. I hesitate to say this because Tyreek Hill’s speed is just so different from anybody in the league, but Nabers has some of that kind of burst and just so explosive off the line of scrimmage.

“He’s as fast as the person chasing him. He’s gonna run away from whoever. If Deion was chasing him, he’d go 4.21 or whatever. He’s the best WR prospect since Chase and on tape, I think he’s even more impressive. This dude is different.”

Another long-time NFL assistant, who has coached receivers and been an NFL offensive coordinator, agreed that Nabers was the top receiver prospect.

“It’s Nabers and then there’s a gap,” said Offensive Assistant 1. “He is the best wide receiver in the draft in a couple of years, maybe more. He is Tyreek Hill combined with both of those San Francisco guys (Deebo Samuel and Brandon Aiyuk). He is so explosive. He has a second gear. He can stop on a dime. He breaks tackles. You can’t jam him because he’s just too quick and if you miss at all, he’s gonna outrun you. He’s really competitive but he can be a pain in the ass. He’ll be the guy who’ll have something to say to the coordinator coming off the field. He’s got that edge to him where he doesn’t know when to let up. He doesn’t know that those guys are on his side.”
- wiz1901

It's all smoke screens after #1.

It's interesting when you look at the past drafts many players they hit on other than 1st round picks, Keith and Byfuglien, they had multiple picks in those rounds they drafted.
- BetweenTheDots

I think the part of this process that often is overlooked is how the team handles those picks after they are drafted. There are tons of good prospects and sometimes the difference between them making or not is the system they are drafted into. Do those prospects get the proper guidance for development. It's not one or two people involved, but a whole staff and I think they can make a difference.

I think the part of this process that often is overlooked is how the team handles those picks after they are drafted. There are tons of good prospects and sometimes the difference between them making or not is the system they are drafted into. Do those prospects get the proper guidance for development. It's not one or two people involved, but a whole staff and I think they can make a difference.
- breadbag

Patience isn't a strong suit in the NHL, few teams have any.

Carter Verhaege. Kid started out playing high school hockey around here, no real star in junior hockey.

Leafs didn't waste any effort or time developing him after drafting him, dumped him in a 5 player deal to NYI for Michael Grabner. NYI dumped him to Tampa and he was on a Cup team. Tampa ran into Cap issues so he signed with Florida. Nice OT goal last night.

Cap overages in this case only relate to bonus payments. VGK does not have a single NHL roster player with a performance bonus clause in their contract.

Bonus overages are a machination in the Collective Bargaining Agreement that allows for teams to reward certain players – those on entry-level contracts, those signing over 35 years of age, and those coming off significant injury – with attainable performance-based bonuses. They do not apply to the cap at the time they are signed, but only once they are attained. If a team finishes the season with salary cap space, the bonuses attained are subtracted from that excess cushion. If a team finishes with zero cap space, it is applied as a carryover bonus overage to the following season.
- Chunk

Machination ? - Word of the day

LA's Byfield attained two of his ELC "A" level bonuses by getting both his 20th goal and 35th assist of the season against the Hawks in the last game of year. That cost LA $425,00 of their overage.

Ten 2025 draft prospects to watch during the U18 tournament beginning Thursday morning. Never too early to start watching these guys in case the Hawks wind up in the bottom 10.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....der-18-world-championship

Machination ? - Word of the day

LA's Byfield attained two of his ELC "A" level bonuses by getting both his 20th goal and 35th assist of the season against the Hawks in the last game of year. That cost LA $425,00 of their overage.
- boilermaker100

I 100% copy/pasted that paragraph. That's three more syllables than I am legally allowed to use.

Patience isn't a strong suit in the NHL, few teams have any.

Carter Verhaege. Kid started out playing high school hockey around here, no real star in junior hockey.

Leafs didn't waste any effort or time developing him after drafting him, dumped him in a 5 player deal to NYI for Michael Grabner. NYI dumped him to Tampa and he was on a Cup team. Tampa ran into Cap issues so he signed with Florida. Nice OT goal last night.
- RickJ

You can say similar about Forsling. I still say if FLA wasn't completely against the cap with few options, he'd never be back in the NHL.

As you say, situation (and opportunity) are key drivers.

Patience isn't a strong suit in the NHL, few teams have any.

Carter Verhaege. Kid started out playing high school hockey around here, no real star in junior hockey.

Leafs didn't waste any effort or time developing him after drafting him, dumped him in a 5 player deal to NYI for Michael Grabner. NYI dumped him to Tampa and he was on a Cup team. Tampa ran into Cap issues so he signed with Florida. Nice OT goal last night.
- RickJ

Verhaege is a Blackhawk killer too. Always scores against us.

Machination ? - Word of the day

LA's Byfield attained two of his ELC "A" level bonuses by getting both his 20th goal and 35th assist of the season against the Hawks in the last game of year. That cost LA $425,00 of their overage.
- boilermaker100

WINNING

Verhaege is a Blackhawk killer too. Always scores against us.
- breadbag

That's almost everyone the last few years.

I think the part of this process that often is overlooked is how the team handles those picks after they are drafted. There are tons of good prospects and sometimes the difference between them making or not is the system they are drafted into. Do those prospects get the proper guidance for development. It's not one or two people involved, but a whole staff and I think they can make a difference.
- breadbag

I don't disagree, i also think some prospects develop at an older age.

The more I look at the total picture, the more I think that Seth Jones is the Hawks version of Jay Cutler. He's actually a really good player but isn't the type to be able to put an entire team on his back.

I think with an improved forward group in front, Vlasic having another year of experience, and the group beginning to gel a bit, he'll have a much better individual year and so will the team. When he speaks to the media he's almost emotionless, which can turn lots of people off. In 2-3 more years the money on his contract will look much more reasonable - not enough to placate anyone here, but still.

The more I look at the total picture, the more I think that Seth Jones is the Hawks version of Jay Cutler. He's actually a really good player but isn't the type to be able to put an entire team on his back.

I think with an improved forward group in front, Vlasic having another year of experience, and the group beginning to gel a bit, he'll have a much better individual year and so will the team. When he speaks to the media he's almost emotionless, which can turn lots of people off. In 2-3 more years the money on his contract will look much more reasonable - not enough to placate anyone here, but still.
- Chunk

JFresh
@JFreshHockey
9:05 AM · Feb 29, 2024
Jones is playing a lot of minutes and he's doing a lot of stuff. That's what the Hawks need from their number one defenceman right now and he's providing it, especially on special teams. #Blackhawks

https://x.com/JFreshHocke...tatus/1763249228879372379

You can say similar about Forsling. I still say if FLA wasn't completely against the cap with few options, he'd never be back in the NHL.

As you say, situation (and opportunity) are key drivers.
- Chunk

And sometimes that situation is a GM acquires a player and the coach just refuses to play him. Q was one of them.

And the reverse also - Erik Gustaffson. Been with 7 NHL teams, totally no clue how to play defence. Until Peter Laviolette thought he was great.

JFresh
@JFreshHockey
9:05 AM · Feb 29, 2024
Jones is playing a lot of minutes and he's doing a lot of stuff. That's what the Hawks need from their number one defenceman right now and he's providing it, especially on special teams. #Blackhawks

https://x.com/JFreshHocke...tatus/1763249228879372379
- LAHawk

Jones and Vlasic made a good duo. Jones put up less points but was only a -15 this year. Vlasic, a -4 and both on a very bad team. They were up against the other teams' best players.

But if the Blackhawks picked 3rd or 4th, this year you may see Betsy's cousin Gavin McKenna in the Indianhead with a lottery win in 2026...
- wiz1901

The good thing about Eiserman is they should be able to take him and 2, 3 or 4

The good thing about Eiserman is they should be able to take him and 2, 3 or 4
- vabeachbear

The thing I like about Eiserman is that - from what I've seen - he seems to play a bit pissed off. That's the kind of thing I'm hoping the Hawks pick up more of. Savoie is a good start though.

The thing I like about Eiserman is that - from what I've seen - he seems to play a bit pissed off. That's the kind of thing I'm hoping the Hawks pick up more of. Savoie is a good start though.
- Chunk

I'm going to trust whoever they draft, I'm not going to be like Elbows and think i know better.

3-3-3-1-4
Glad the season is over. Cannot wait to see what/who they ice in October.
A lot of rookies have earned their keep. I'd guess most of the long time veterans whose contracts expire will not be back.
Very interested in which free agents and trade acquisitions end up here.
Will glance occasionally at playoff hockey in the interim.

Mr Forsling. Fun game to watch. Too bad Stan had no patience or knew how to develop players.
- SaskHawkFan

Carolina also passed on him. And Carolina has been fairly good at identifying and developing defensive talent.