UAP --- cause they cannot be identified hockey team.
- dmnted

It won’t happen but part of me hopes for The Utah Users lol

I see Jim Montgomery is a little whiny female dog because of the nhl scheduling.
"Bruins are spending more time in Toronto than in Boston"

cry me a river Jimmy boy
- dmnted

Oh yes, someone should ask him how many bruins are actually from Boston lol

You guys can circumvent my (frank)ing cap, scumbags!
- Zezel

John, I'm not going to shoot you between the eyes. I'm going to shoot you between the balls.

not good enough.. Leafs are going on 60 years without a cup...be ruthless and circumvent anything and everything.
- senstroll

Lets dress Muzzin and Murray and Klingberg tonight just to piss off Canuck fans!

John, I'm not going to shoot you between the eyes. I'm going to shoot you between the balls.
- The Law

Let off steam, Bennett!

There’s no cap whatsoever in the post season so no, it is not cap circumvention.

Sorry but a fan’s feelings mean sweet (frank) all to a business and that’s a good thing.

Go cry elsewhere.
- Dozzer

The cap is in place for a reason - to create a level playing field for each of the league's teams to abide by. Yes it does not apply to the post-season - no one is disputing these facts.

However, deliberately placing a player on LTIR in order to provide cap space to acquire players in-season IS cap circumvention. This is pretty (frank)ing clearly the stratagem that VGK (and TBL in yesteryears) has employed to game the system so that the lineup can take on more salary.

The league SHOULD implement the cap in the post-season to ensure that level playing field translates into the most important time of the year: the (frank)ing playoffs.

And, of course, my opinion means "sweet (frank) all" to the NHL, but we're fans on a forum and I get to exercise my frustration with obvious (frank)ing cheating teams that are incentivized to take advantage of LTIR loophole bs and miraculous medical recoveries.

Good on VGK for successfully poopting over the spirit of the cap. I don't have to like it and I'm going to keep female doging about it until it's cleaned up.

Let off steam, Bennett!
- Zezel

Still wish the Leafs traded for that (frank).

The cap is in place for a reason - to create a level playing field for each of the league's teams to abide by. Yes it does not apply to the post-season - no one is disputing these facts.

However, deliberately placing a player on LTIR in order to provide cap space to acquire players in-season IS cap circumvention. This is pretty (frank)ing clearly the stratagem that VGK (and TBL in yesteryears) has employed to game the system so that the lineup can take on more salary.

The league SHOULD implement the cap in the post-season to ensure that level playing field translates into the most important time of the year: the (frank)ing playoffs.

And, of course, my opinion means "sweet (frank) all" to the NHL, but we're fans on a forum and I get to exercise my frustration with obvious (frank)ing cheating teams that are incentivized to take advantage of LTIR loophole bs and miraculous medical recoveries.

Good on VGK for successfully poopting over the spirit of the cap. I don't have to like it and I'm going to keep female doging about it until it's cleaned up.
- mjones242

Except it doesn’t exist in the post season so no rule is being broken at all.

Your argument is nothing more than boo hooing about this. Once again no team is cheating because they’re not breaking any rules.

FEELINGS DON’T MATTER TO A BUSINESSES MONEY DOES

anyone who believes otherwise is a dumbass who buys into marketing

And f’n leaf fans… if Muzzin was good to go every single one of you criers wouldn’t be saying a bloody thing.

Except it doesn’t exist in the post season so no rule is being broken at all.

Your argument is nothing more than boo hooing about this. Once again no team is cheating because they’re not breaking any rules.

FEELINGS DON’T MATTER TO A BUSINESSES MONEY DOES

anyone who believes otherwise is a dumbass who buys into marketing

And f’n leaf fans… if Muzzin was good to go every single one of you criers wouldn’t be saying a bloody thing.
- Dozzer

- 21peter

To shut everyone up about their feelings?

Sadly no.

- 21peter

You know what they say: if you’re not circumventing, you’re not circumventing

I'm a little board.
my work work is done and waiting on other to do their part.
I feel like having a cannabis cigarette

I'm a little board.
my work work is done and waiting on other to do their part.
I feel like having a cannabis cigarette
- dmnted

Still wish the Leafs traded for that (frank).
- mjones242

Me too man. I wanted him to be a Leaf from day one, just for the Commando references. Then it turns out he's a useful player too.

Me too man. I wanted him to be a Leaf from day one, just for the Commando references. Then it turns out he's a useful player too.
- Zezel

he even had the bennett mustache




also never noticed that bennet uses a pistol when he has a perfectly good uzi on his belt

You know what they say: if you’re not circumventing, you’re not circumventing
- Canada Cup

Impossible to circumvent something that doesn’t exist…. Like a cap in the post season for instance.

This is what teams make and it’s given to the players equally in the post season ffs:

First round losers — $2 million ($250,000 each to eight teams)
Second round losers — $2 million ($500,000 each to four teams)
Third round losers — $2.5 million ($1.25 million each to two teams)
Stanley Cup Finalist — $2.25 million
Stanley Cup Champion — $3.75 million

he even had the bennett mustache




also never noticed that bennet uses a pistol when he has a perfectly good uzi on his belt
- TheMussel

oh dude (frank)ing sweet!!!!

Bennett made some curious choices in that masterwork of cinema. Like putting down the chickenpoop gun and fighting prime Arnie in hand-to-hand combat.

There is the letter of the law, and then the spirit.

I don't understand why there has to be a grey area at all.
- Whipper

People act like no salary cap in the playoffs is a feature of the CBA.

It's not - it's a bug.

You have to remember that they wrote the CBA on a napkin in record time - and didn't have time to test it, think about it, scrutinize it.

That's why there's an entire section (26) about circumvention, which tries to cover the NHL's arse - but it doesn't do a good job.

There's no salary cap in the playoffs because the NHL lawyers drafting up the CBA simply didn't think about it at the time.

Hiding a guy on LTIR until the playoffs is cheating. We all know it's cheating.

Most importantly, Bettman knows it is cheating. And he has the power to put a stop to it, but he chooses not to.

Do I fault the teams? Hell no. They hire people to find loopholes and exploit them.

But let's not pretend that this looks good on the NHL. It's example #2,396,755 of how this league is a franking joke.

People act like no salary cap in the playoffs is a feature of the CBA.

It's not - it's a bug.

You have to remember that they wrote the CBA on a napkin in record time - and didn't have time to test it, think about it, scrutinize it.

That's why there's an entire section (26) about circumvention, which tries to cover the NHL's arse - but it doesn't do a good job.

Hiding a guy on LTIR until the playoffs is cheating. We all know it's cheating.

Most importantly, Bettman knows it is cheating. And he has the power to put a stop to it, but he chooses not to.

Do I fault the teams? Hell no. They hire people to find loopholes and exploit them.

But let's not pretend that this looks good on the NHL. It's example #2,396,755 of how this league is a franking joke.
- Atomic Wedgie

Every player makes the same amount as his teammates on each team. Why is this so bloody complex? (frank) sakes the desire to be controlling by some hockey fans is absolutely absurd.

People act like no salary cap in the playoffs is a feature of the CBA.

It's not - it's a bug.

You have to remember that they wrote the CBA on a napkin in record time - and didn't have time to test it, think about it, scrutinize it.

That's why there's an entire section (26) about circumvention, which tries to cover the NHL's arse - but it doesn't do a good job.

There's no salary cap in the playoffs because the NHL lawyers drafting up the CBA simply didn't think about it at the time.

Hiding a guy on LTIR until the playoffs is cheating. We all know it's cheating.

Most importantly, Bettman knows it is cheating. And he has the power to put a stop to it, but he chooses not to.

Do I fault the teams? Hell no. They hire people to find loopholes and exploit them.

But let's not pretend that this looks good on the NHL. It's example #2,396,755 of how this league is a franking joke.
- Atomic Wedgie

Why is there so much pushback to fixing it? Is it simply something that is enshrined in the current CBA and can't be changed?

Every player makes the same amount as his teammates on each team. Why is this so bloody complex? (frank) sakes the desire to be controlling by some hockey fans is absolutely absurd.
- Dozzer

I have no idea what point you are trying to make here.

What has this got to do with salary cap circumvention?

Why is there so much pushback to fixing it? Is it simply something that is enshrined in the current CBA and can't be changed?
- Whipper

Because people don’t grasp math well.

The star of the team, for instance Matthews, makes the same per round as a fourth liner, like Dewar.

I have no idea what point you are trying to make here.

What has this got to do with salary cap circumvention?
- Atomic Wedgie

The cap does not exist in the post season so circumventing something that does not exist is nothing but fictional nonsense.

Why is there so much pushback to fixing it? Is it simply something that is enshrined in the current CBA and can't be changed?
- Whipper

So apparently (believe it or not) Tampa addressed it at a Governors' Meeting a few years ago (prior to their Stanley Cup victory) - they said "hey, we should fix this."

There was no interest, so Tampa said "frank it" and used it to their advantage.

I have no idea why the owners don't want to address it. It seems like it would be pretty simple to get a majority of owners - ones who are bitter about Tampa and Vegas - doing this.

There's also the aspect of possibly needing the NHLPA to sign off.

So my guess is this will be a big discussion in the media prior to a new CBA. Whether or not it will be a big discussion between the NHL and NHLPA remains to be seen.

But always remember: the NHL never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

The cap does not exist in the post season so circumventing something that does not exist is nothing but fictional nonsense.
- Dozzer

As I wrote above, the only reason the cap doesn't exist in the post season is because the NHL didn't think about it at the time.

The reason for instituting a cap was two-fold:

- providing cost certainty to owners (which also means holding salaries down); and
- ensuring that all teams' payrolls are within an agreed-upon range, to try to ensure competitive parity.

Hiding guys on LTIR until the 1st game of the playoffs violates the spirit of the salary cap. Teams are not within said agreed-upon range.

Should teams use it to their advantage right now? Hell yes.

Should the NHL close this unintended loophole because it's a franking embarrassment to the league? Also hell yes.

Just like what they did with back-diving contracts. It was a loophole they didn't think of, and teams were taking advantage of it. It was not a good look, so Bettman closed it - first by fiat, then by adding to the CBA.