I get that

If we took a poll of all Sens fans (beyond even the ones here) I think 80-90% minimum would want to keep their pick. The only way you trade is for a HIGH talent player. IMO that kind of trade would be for Brandt Clarke 1 for 1
- AlfieisKing

I highly doubt that LA is going to trade Clarke away anyways. I would think they may view him as Doughty's replacement in a few years.

I think the starting lineup next year will look like this:
They'll have a new coaching staff in place. The goaltending will be Korpisalo and a New Backup. On D: Chabot, Sanderson, Kleven, Zub, Guenette, Bernard-Docker and Hamonic. At F: Tkachuk, Stutzle, Batherson, Giroux, Pinto, Scoring Winger, Norris????, Greig, Joseph, Kelly, Veteran support player and 2 Belleville Fs. The team will decide what they want to do about #23 spot.

I think the starting lineup next year will look like this:
They'll have a new coaching staff in place. The goaltending will be Korpisalo and a New Backup. On D: Chabot, Sanderson, Kleven, Zub, Guenette, Bernard-Docker and Hamonic. At F: Tkachuk, Stutzle, Batherson, Giroux, Pinto, Scoring Winger, Norris????, Greig, Joseph, Kelly, Veteran support player and 2 Belleville Fs. The team will decide what they want to do about #23 spot.
- granpa

I would be very happy with those changes. My greatest fear is the team will give themselves too many problems by making too many changes and creating wholesale disruption on the ice complicated by an entirely new coaching staff.

They need to start the season strong.

My hope is a "scoring" winger brings some size and grit. Veteran teams with size and grit win the Stanley Cup.

Chychrun should bring a nice return. Lots of teams are looking for D and it does not matter where he goes he will show better than his stay in Ottawa. He is too talented to be playing behind Sanderson and Chabot. He played 82 games

I am pulling for Norris. I think the next shoulder/upper arm incident moves him into the possibility of a career ending LTIR assignment.

If Leafs fail tonight, they will be making some big moves wanting to cut their top 4 payroll in order to add D and more depth. Sens do not have an interest in Marner.

With the Leafs losing, I expect that Keefe will be fired. Probably means a guy like Berube will potentially be the leader for that job. Maybe Quennville if he comes back. But regardless, it probably means one less elite/experienced coach on the market. This might be the job Berube was waiting for (I always wondered if he was a serious potential for the Sens).

With the Leafs losing, I expect that Keefe will be fired. Probably means a guy like Berube will potentially be the leader for that job. Maybe Quennville if he comes back. But regardless, it probably means one less elite/experienced coach on the market. This might be the job Berube was waiting for (I always wondered if he was a serious potential for the Sens).
- OttawaB

Leafs fought pretty hard to come back and force game 7.

I don't think there is a coaching problem.

The Leafs have huge issues around how their roster and payroll is constructed.

Does it make sense to move front line players (Marner, Tavares) and also change coaching staff?

Leafs have a history of chasing saviours. Better to steady the ship around what has been working. I thought Keefe did a real good job against Bruins, especially when you consider that both Nylander and Matthews missed games.

I would be very happy with those changes. My greatest fear is the team will give themselves too many problems by making too many changes and creating wholesale disruption on the ice complicated by an entirely new coaching staff.

They need to start the season strong.

My hope is a "scoring" winger brings some size and grit. Veteran teams with size and grit win the Stanley Cup.

Chychrun should bring a nice return. Lots of teams are looking for D and it does not matter where he goes he will show better than his stay in Ottawa. He is too talented to be playing behind Sanderson and Chabot. He played 82 games

I am pulling for Norris. I think the next shoulder/upper arm incident moves him into the possibility of a career ending LTIR assignment.

If Leafs fail tonight, they will be making some big moves wanting to cut their top 4 payroll in order to add D and more depth. Sens do not have an interest in Marner.
- spatso

The kids usually don't disrupt the room. Staios should make sure that the veteran signings are not the types to cause leadership conflicts. When he trades Chychrun he'll move a -30 defenseman that blames everybody else for his mistakes. The returning players learned a lot with Martin and Alfie and they'll be more ready to start the season.

Leafs fought pretty hard to come back and force game 7.

I don't think there is a coaching problem.

The Leafs have huge issues around how their roster and payroll is constructed.

Does it make sense to move front line players (Marner, Tavares) and also change coaching staff?

Leafs have a history of chasing saviours. Better to steady the ship around what has been working. I thought Keefe did a real good job against Bruins, especially when you consider that both Nylander and Matthews missed games.
- spatso

After almost 10 years of the "Shana-plan" and no results (only 1 playoff series win), it is time for changes in Toronto. Shanahan? Team front office structure? Coaching?, Players? I would say everything is on the line as new CEO Keith Pelley takes the reins and will certainly look to make his mark. Why do I care, and why should any of us in Ottawa care about what happens in Toronto? Because changes to the infrastructure there will most certainly affect the rest of the league as top management/coaching/player personnel will look to get a shot at plum job openings there. None of the top line coaching prospects will likely make a move until they have an idea if the Toronto job (big $$$ salary) is filled.

Whether you "think" there should be changes or not, another failure to get anywhere close to a Stanley Cup will bring changes. The Leafs just can't keep rolling out the same stuff year after year and hope it changes. Quite frankly, I believe Keefe as coach and Dubas and Treliving as GM's did a piss poor job in team structure (they can go take a bow with Dorion).

I am hoping we don't have long to wait for a new coach and coaching staff. It would be nice to have it all in place by late May so that everyone can have a good look at draft prospects, and input on prospective trades and free agents.

In the meantime ....... draft lottery this Tuesday May 7th. Here's hoping the Sens finally catch a break and win the lottery (or at the very least, stay at #7).

After almost 10 years of the "Shana-plan" and no results (only 1 playoff series win), it is time for changes in Toronto. Shanahan? Team front office structure? Coaching?, Players? I would say everything is on the line as new CEO Keith Pelley takes the reins and will certainly look to make his mark. Why do I care, and why should any of us in Ottawa care about what happens in Toronto? Because changes to the infrastructure there will most certainly affect the rest of the league as top management/coaching/player personnel will look to get a shot at plum job openings there. None of the top line coaching prospects will likely make a move until they have an idea if the Toronto job (big $$$ salary) is filled.

Whether you "think" there should be changes or not, another failure to get anywhere close to a Stanley Cup will bring changes. The Leafs just can't keep rolling out the same stuff year after year and hope it changes. Quite frankly, I believe Keefe as coach and Dubas and Treliving as GM's did a piss poor job in team structure (they can go take a bow with Dorion).

I am hoping we don't have long to wait for a new coach and coaching staff. It would be nice to have it all in place by late May so that everyone can have a good look at draft prospects, and input on prospective trades and free agents.

In the meantime ....... draft lottery this Tuesday May 7th. Here's hoping the Sens finally catch a break and win the lottery (or at the very least, stay at #7).
- OttawaB

It would be stunning if the Sens won the lottery. Nothing would boost season ticket sales and change the discussion agenda more.

I sort of feel sorry for Leaf fans. My family is loaded with them. I have seen some of them crying during this Boston series. I distinguish between Leaf fans (good people) and the Leaf media (constantly puking up Leaf centric storylines). The Leaf media might cause you to believe the Leafs are deserving of the last 5 Stanley Cups. Leaf fans are hurting today and I have no desire to beat on them.

Shanahan and Co have been given extremely long leashes because they've totally reframed the culture of that team out of the dark ages. They have made MLSE a lot of money, but something has to give - team can't win when it counts.

Oh ... I can beat on Leaf fans with impunity. I still remember my Leaf fan friends from Toronto calling me to gloat on the night the Sens lost the Cup to Anaheim. So their pain is joyous to me. But, after all, its all just a fun game. Its not life.

Oh ... I can beat on Leaf fans with impunity. I still remember my Leaf fan friends from Toronto calling me to gloat on the night the Sens lost the Cup to Anaheim. So their pain is joyous to me. But, after all, its all just a fun game. Its not life.
- OttawaB

Oh ... I can beat on Leaf fans with impunity. I still remember my Leaf fan friends from Toronto calling me to gloat on the night the Sens lost the Cup to Anaheim. So their pain is joyous to me. But, after all, its all just a fun game. Its not life.
- OttawaB

Well...I cannot deny that I have had similar feelings. And, despite my telling myself that it is immature for me to want to see the Leafs stumble, I cannot help but gloat a little when HNIC commentators try to explain how the Leafs pooped the bed once again.

Maybe my worst vindictive thoughts involved my smugly laughing when it was reported that Auston had pooped a full loose bowl in the middle of the second period while sitting right in the middle of the bench between Marner and Nylander. We can only hope somebody has the picture with creative interpretive captions from both Mitch and Willy.

However, despite my immature joy, I still acknowledge that there are so many young and old Leaf fans who remain disillusioned because they have been led into a promised land that does not include any milk or honey. If it smells like poope, if it looks like poope, it is cannot be honey. Perhaps all the noise pumped out by the media has always been poope.

seems OTT going the route of bargain bin coaches again with Travis Green.....

I highly doubt that LA is going to trade Clarke away anyways. I would think they may view him as Doughty's replacement in a few years.
- OttawaB

Interesting take. I think Doughty has at least 2-3 seasons before he starts to decline.

I completely spaced that the draft lottery is tomorrow.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/bo...cklin-celebrini-1.2116004

New rankings by McKenzie are out. Will the Russian factor influence who people or the Sens should take, there are several of them in the top 8 or so, and Demidov has shot up the rankings.

While best player available is the defining wisdom, its a real crapshoot after the top 1, or maybe 3, so they may try go draft a defenceman.

Fingers crossed!

Bowness retired. Yet another coaching vacancy to be filled.

And might be another by tomorrow if Keefe goes. That is a lot of empty benches to fill.

I just don't want the Sens to go cheap or be forced to take someone they didn't want because they waited too long.

seems OTT going the route of bargain bin coaches again with Travis Green.....
- Mithos

I am not sure what to think of the coaching situation. While I think it’s important to nail the position, I also think the roster still needs work so any coach you do bring in, likely won’t have the same roster October 2024 as they will in October 2025. The biggest issue with DJ Smith I found was the lack of adaptability. Never changed the game plan, new players were not very effective, and didn’t hold players accountable at the right times.

As long as a coach is in place who can adapt to roster moves, change game plans midgame, and enforce accountability, I think it should be an effective hire. Who that is exactly anyone guess. To be honest, none of the “experienced” names available sound particularly intriguing. I do think this team could really use a Tortorella or Laviolette type coach. If there is a guy that is lesser known that fits that mold, that might work. However, would love to have a strong name take command of the bench.

End of the day, you win with the roster you have. The coach can only do so much. I think a good coach can make this into a playoff team but there significant pieces missing from being a contender. Really hard to address both on the fly for immediate success. Will be a very interesting offseason. I would not get attached to many players on this roster.

So it sounds like Travis Green is probably the guy. I am not sure how to feel. I don’t think it’s terrible but doesn’t seem great either. Both teams he coached in the NHL improved immediately after he left. I also am not sure why this couldn’t be an in-season hire rather than the odd nostalgic Martin hire. It’s even stranger to not wait a few weeks to see if other coaches leave their current teams. Seems like a little bit of a panic hire.

He was never on my mind as a coaching candidate. Pretty bold move by Staios and company.

I am not sure what to think of the coaching situation. While I think it’s important to nail the position, I also think the roster still needs work so any coach you do bring in, likely won’t have the same roster October 2024 as they will in October 2025. The biggest issue with DJ Smith I found was the lack of adaptability. Never changed the game plan, new players were not very effective, and didn’t hold players accountable at the right times.

As long as a coach is in place who can adapt to roster moves, change game plans midgame, and enforce accountability, I think it should be an effective hire. Who that is exactly anyone guess. To be honest, none of the “experienced” names available sound particularly intriguing. I do think this team could really use a Tortorella or Laviolette type coach. If there is a guy that is lesser known that fits that mold, that might work. However, would love to have a strong name take command of the bench.



End of the day, you win with the roster you have. The coach can only do so much. I think a good coach can make this into a playoff team but there significant pieces missing from being a contender. Really hard to address both on the fly for immediate success. Will be a very interesting offseason. I would not get attached to many players on this roster.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

World Hockey Championship is to give us an interest read. Tkachuk, Pinto and Sanderson playing for team USA. Ridley Grieg playing for Team Canada. Not sure if any other Sens are playing for their national teams.

I think Sens fan base need to focus on all things Sens during this off season.

Looking for a power forward, a physical RHD and new coach and assistants. Nobody knows about the goaltending. And, the Sens could get lucky and move up in the draft.

I hope they avoid doing too much and creating chaos. They need steady progress. I would hate to see them blow it up and try too much and end up backing into beginning another rebuild.

World Hockey Championship is to give us an interest read. Tkachuk, Pinto and Sanderson playing for team USA. Ridley Grieg playing for Team Canada. Not sure if any other Sens are playing for their national teams.

I think Sens fan base need to focus on all things Sens during this off season.

Looking for a power forward, a physical RHD and new coach and assistants. Nobody knows about the goaltending. And, the Sens could get lucky and move up in the draft.

I hope they avoid doing too much and creating chaos. They need steady progress. I would hate to see them blow it up and try too much and end up backing into beginning another rebuild.
- spatso

I'm not putting THAT much emphasis on the coaching choice but a good choice is one step to help improve the team and its record. In the same way a bad choice (cough, DJ Smith) can hinder a team and its players.

The two quickest and easiest ways to improve this team is hiring the right coach, and signing the right top 4 RD UFA.

So it sounds like Travis Green is probably the guy. I am not sure how to feel. I don’t think it’s terrible but doesn’t seem great either. Both teams he coached in the NHL improved immediately after he left. I also am not sure why this couldn’t be an in-season hire rather than the odd nostalgic Martin hire. It’s even stranger to not wait a few weeks to see if other coaches leave their current teams. Seems like a little bit of a panic hire.

He was never on my mind as a coaching candidate. Pretty bold move by Staios and company.
- Gord_Wilson_2.0

he is a bargain bin coach, Melnyks ghost must have possessed Staios/Audlauer.

This could very well be the start of the end of the sens, when OTT finished bottom 5-10 again next season, Brady and Chabot for 100% certainty will demand to be traded. All the great coaches available and they pick a smith clone...

he is a bargain bin coach, Melnyks ghost must have possessed Staios/Audlauer.

This could very well be the start of the end of the sens, when OTT finished bottom 5-10 again next season, Brady and Chabot for 100% certainty will demand to be traded. All the great coaches available and they pick a smith clone...
- Mithos

Unless the other ones said no thanks or wanted to wait for TO coaching decision to be made. IF I'm the Sens, I definitely don't want someone who isn't eager to coach here or is hemming and hawing about the decison.

There is a reason Travis Green was not on anybody's radar. He's got a losing record over 335 games coached, he's qualified for the playoffs once in his career, and the Devils floundered all season long with him as interim. Mystifying IMO.

some comments from Devils and Nucks fans on a Sens Reddit about green

"As a Devils fan, please have him, holy (frank). You'd be doing us all a favour."

6d ago
We couldn't wait for him to GTFO out of Vancouver too. Lol

"I have no idea how he keeps getting jobs or consideration for jobs. He's never even come close to succeeding at the NHL level.

He was so (frank)ing bad for us Devil's fans"

"Jesus Christ, he is one of the worst coaches in modern NHL"

Sens brass getting obliterated on another Sens baord i found.

"ottawa no what are you doing"

3h ago
I have no (frank)ing clue lmao

Andlauer has come in saying “best in class best in class” and this guy is probably the worst out of the NHL experienced and non-experienced candidates. This makes no sense.

There is a reason Travis Green was not on anybody's radar. He's got a losing record over 335 games coached, he's qualified for the playoffs once in his career, and the Devils floundered all season long with him as interim. Mystifying IMO.
- Bartacus

Was he with some teams with their younger cores? Vancouver mayber. Only thing I can think of. But his record speaks for itself.