They could be interested in the cost certainty of Sanheim. His contract is not a killer for the Flyers but I would love to move it. He has a NTC though. He is also Canadian so maybe Winnepeg is not unappealing to him.
- mickel25

Farabee also brings cost certainty but would rather move him for something else.

I'm not the one that spends hours on this forum every single day and night doing nothing but petty arguing with other posters. You are not the only troll on this forum but make no mistake, you are the biggest troll by far!

I bring hockey content and hockey talk to this forum .. something you know very little about, and you prove it every single day!
- jd250

Simply follow the thread today. You made a post, made a claim which I questioned you on. My response was hockey related. You replied with condescension and insults. Look in the mirror jd.

You erred and did not copy and past the relevant excerpt to support your point. Your post did not make sense.

I agree. Just think that Sanheim's contract is movable with a quality return to the Flyers. Moving Risto's contract would cost the Flyers assets. I do not want to spend even more assets on Risto. It has already cost the Flyers multiple draft picks just to acquire him.
- mickel25

it is moveable not sute what quality they would get back. no idea how other teams value Sanheim.

You are apparently as dumb as a pile of rocks. I'm done wasting another letter on you.
- jd250

This is an example of the hockey talk you bring to the forum.

Maybe I'm overlooking something but I don't see a trade fit between the two teams. Other than the remote possibility that Konecny is not re-signed and is moved at next years deadline. With the players you named. Florida is a legit contender. Eve if they fall short this season. They'll surely be of the mindset to take another run at it. The cap is going up this off season and will go up again after 24/25.
- MJL

The Panthers only have $20mil in cap space going into next year. They have a good amount of key players that are UFA's. They can make it work for sure. But it won't be easy.

Only 7 current forwards, 5 d-men and one goalie are signed past this year.

A tale as old as time. Teams make an early exit and fans start to rabidly speculate on what good players can be poached from the expected tear down.

And yet, this rarely happens. NHL GMs are nutless monkeys for the most part. Most of them like their guys, although not quite to the level of the Flyers.
- StepfordSam

The principle concern of most NHL GMs is keeping their job not winning a Stanley Cup. GMs stay on the job longer if they don’t risk losing trades and just make draft picks and sign free agents. Fans get way more upset about losing trades then patiently doing nothing.

The Panthers only have $20mil in cap space going into next year. They have a good amount of key players that are UFA's. They can make it work for sure. But it won't be easy.

Only 7 current forwards, 5 d-men and one goalie are signed past this year.
- mickel25

Every top team for the most part is going to have difficulty and have to make tough choices. Contending teams however generally don't tend to breaking it up. The toughest decision they have is on Reinhart. I would be shocked if he repeats next season.

The principle concern of most NHL GMs is keeping their job not winning a Stanley Cup. GMs stay on the job longer if they don’t risk losing trades and just make draft picks and sign free agents. Fans get way more upset about losing trades then patiently doing nothing.
- psuhockey

NHL GM's get fired if their team doesn't progress. A GM that wins the Cup, tends to get a lengthy grace period if they win the Cup.

Every top team for the most part is going to have difficulty and have to make tough choices. Contending teams however generally don't tend to breaking it up. The toughest decision they have is on Reinhart. I would be shocked if he repeats next season.
- MJL

He will get paid like he will though. The defense is thin also. Stolarz has earned a raise as well. Knight makes over $3mil per that they were able to hide this season. They might have to trade him.

I agree top teams have tough decisions every year. They will need to get creative though.

At some point, the remaining salary on Ryan Ellis deal will be low enough to make him a tradeable asset. They likely won't get much for him but they can move him off of the cap if they want to.

The Panthers only have $20mil in cap space going into next year. They have a good amount of key players that are UFA's. They can make it work for sure. But it won't be easy.

Only 7 current forwards, 5 d-men and one goalie are signed past this year.
- mickel25

some players will take less to play in florida. they have a slight advantage and with them being good makes it appealing.

He will get paid like he will though. The defense is thin also. Stolarz has earned a raise as well. Knight makes over $3mil per that they were able to hide this season. They might have to trade him.

I agree top teams have tough decisions every year. They will need to get creative though.
- mickel25

If I was Florida, I would prioritize re-signing Montour over Reinhart.

A tale as old as time. Teams make an early exit and fans start to rabidly speculate on what good players can be poached from the expected tear down.

And yet, this rarely happens. NHL GMs are nutless monkeys for the most part. Most of them like their guys, although not quite to the level of the Flyers.
- StepfordSam

Wait... so you're saying we won't be trading TK, Risto and ND for Marner?

some players will take less to play in florida. they have a slight advantage and with them being good makes it appealing.
- hello it's me 2050

No income tax, sunshine and a good team seems ideal.

If I was Florida, I would prioritize re-signing Montour over Reinhart.
- MJL

Me too

Wait... so you're saying we won't be trading TK, Risto and ND for Marner?
- Tomahawk

Just wait, it's a long Summer. There will be plenty of suggestions for trading all the players we don't want for the other teams best players.

NHL GM's get fired if their team doesn't progress. A GM that wins the Cup, tends to get a lengthy grace period if they win the Cup.
- MJL

Cheveldayoff and Poile are really good examples of what you just said.

Cheveldayoff and Poile are really good examples of what you just said.
- psuhockey

There are always exceptions to every rule. What tends to happen more? NHL GM's getting fired for not winning or having long reigns without winning or progressing? The majority is what matters.

No income tax, sunshine and a good team seems ideal.
- mickel25

yep and not a demo run city as an added bonus.

It's not washed out. It's an obvious factor. Not the only factor of course but one that has to be considered. For you to dismiss it as silly, is just ignorant.
- MJL

It has been considered. When a player has injuries that impact his performance over so many years, it manifests itself in either a lower % of games played, or a lower % of mins played (lower % of usual usage), usually both. This does now show up in Point's case, over a large data set. As such, the evidence of what you claim is not there.

Further, such injuries are almost always upper-body (head, spine, esp) or groin. The Foppa case is very rare (and even there, much more games were missed). The kind of LBI Point has had don't linger over years and years in today's age.

I went to the trouble of looking up Point's PPG with TOI/GM with NK and without. I know such nuance will be wasted on you, but I am doing this for the non-lunatics.



It is of course only common sense that any player will benefit from playing with a great one. The issue is whether a very good player may be mischaracterized as great because of that effect.

I DONT KNOW WHAT I JUST WATCHED
- THE BLACK HAND

My guess:you watched the beginning of the following story:

1. A close loss in game 6 at home for Sixers
or
2. A blowout loss in game 7 away.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/01/us-news/cops-raise-us-flag-toss-palestinian-banner-after-ending-city-college-pro-terror-protest/

should have cracked some skulls
- hello it's me 2050

Why, were you there?


Pity.

The Lightning are a shining example of realizing the current course was incorrect and making pretty drastic changes. In my opinion the Leafs need to do something similar. They also need to get a Hedman and Vasilevskiy. Easy peazy
- mickel25

I thought they didn't make drastic changes. They were cresting, then had a huge debacle against CBJ. They did not get rid of a single big name. Instead, they tinkered, and added team toughness. Their subsequent shuffling was motivated by salary cap reasons.

Ditto Colorado. They had some tremendous regular season numbers, then lost to lower skill teams playing a 'heavier' game (Dallas, Vegas). They kept the entire core and even guys like Girard who struggled in the playoff series of those years with physical play. They supplemented rather than supplanted, and returned as champs.

No income tax, sunshine and a good team seems ideal.
- mickel25

There are some pretty glaring cons though.

1. As most know, players are taxed where they play. Cats being in the ATL, they play a lot in Canada, and then travel to MI and NY (high income tax states).
2. Lots of long plane trips from Miami!
3. Hockey way down in fan interest. Dwarfed by college sports, NASCAR, and in the Miami area, by soccer.

It has been considered. When a player has injuries that impact his performance over so many years, it manifests itself in either a lower % of games played, or a lower % of mins played (lower % of usual usage), usually both. This does now show up in Point's case, over a large data set. As such, the evidence of what you claim is not there.


- PT21

Of course the evidence is there. The lower ppg % when having seasons where he was injured. It's an obvious reason. His ice time doesn't have to be lower for the injury and the recovery to have an effect on his ppg. The evidence is there, you just want to ignore which is another regular tactic of yours. Followed by an unsubstantiated claim by you that your position is not debatable. Followed up by insults.

Further, such injuries are almost always upper-body (head, spine, esp) or groin. The Foppa case is very rare (and even there, much more games were missed). The kind of LBI Point has had don't linger over years and years in today's age.


- PT21

You have zero data to support this. You're just trying to introduce facts not in evidence. There are plenty of examples of LBI injuries lingering. Very common with knee injuries. Claude Giroux took a full season to rebound from his hip issue before he was able to return to his high level of play. Groin by the way, is a LBI. LOL

I went to the trouble of looking up Point's PPG with TOI/GM with NK and without. I know such nuance will be wasted on you, but I am doing this for the non-lunatics.



It is of course only common sense that any player will benefit from playing with a great one. The issue is whether a very good player may be mischaracterized as great because of that effect.
- PT21

That Point did not benefit from Kucherov is not my position. Of course he did. It worked the other way also.