Great game, great series once the Leafs got their head out of their a$$.

Bob against Swayman in the next series. First team to 2 goals probably wins.
- boilermaker100

Leafs finally decided to play playoff hockey. Ramped up the intensity, hunger to win every battle, north-south, support pucks, pay the price and win 1 short shift at a time playoff hockey when Holl went in goal. The 3-1 hole was too big.

Ended up a good series for the fan. ..... Yea man, Bob v Swayman is a beauty and Shesterkin v a rested Anderson ain't bad either.

You know goalies are hockey players just play goalie. They need to anticipate, read and make plays... That puck went into the corner on an angle, you would have to anticipate it might bounce towards the front of the net, then read if it does and you'll be able to make a play on it without thinking.. Simply poking his stick out with the blade at an angle and it pops over Pasternak's stick.

Dude was playing scared and with little IQ.
- Mr Ricochet

Lots of breakdowns on that play, Marner didn’t pick up Pasternak at the blueline, Reilly got himself turned the wrong way letting Pasternak through and Samsonov didn’t poke the puck away. It was the curse of Harold Ballard.

Actually Leafs played well enough to win a tight one. Both Boston goals were on Samsoov. Swayman doesnt allow either one.

But 4 Game 7 losses to the same team in 10 years .......
- RickJ

Not sure on the first goal, if Samsonov picked it up late? It did get thru/past 2 bodies... The Leafs just mighta won this thing with Holl in goal but man Swayman is damn good and the difference in the game and series.

Goalies are hockey players, man. Make plays besides stopping pucks.

Not sure on the first goal, if Samsonov picked it up late? It did get thru/past 2 bodies... The Leafs just mighta won this thing with Holl in goal but man Swayman is damn good and the difference in the game and series.

Goalies are hockey players, man. Make plays besides stopping pucks.
- Mr Ricochet

Boston has a goalie on the bench (Ullmark) that is going to bring a helluva return in the off-season.

Boston has a goalie on the bench (Ullmark) that is going to bring a helluva return in the off-season.
- LAHawk

For Marner straight up. 😂😂

Lots of breakdowns on that play, Marner didn’t pick up Pasternak at the blueline, Reilly got himself turned the wrong way letting Pasternak through and Samsonov didn’t poke the puck away. It was the curse of Harold Ballard
- paulr

As miserable as that bastard was the Leafs will be jinxed until a nuclear war takes us all out. ...... I'll give you the missed plays by Marner and Reilly but that Pasternak is a smart cookie. Once he decided to go full blast, guessing it was a set play, Marner wasn't gonna catch him and Reilly was flat footed. But, you gotta make a good read and make a play and the Leafs did not. ... Full 7 games comes down to that play.

Pumped for CAR @ NYR tomorrow. Win lose or draw you earn anything you get from Carolina. Let's see if NYR can play smart/structured/disciplined for 4 wins v the Canes. ... Playing that group is like sitting in the dentist's chair. .... Love that Svechnikov kid and watching the beastly Kreider hit high gear is worth the price of admission. 2 true power forwards.

Boston has a goalie on the bench (Ullmark) that is going to bring a helluva return in the off-season.
- LAHawk

Been folowing Ulmark since he came up with BUF. Drafted him in like the 18th rd and kept him for a couple yrs. So I watched him .... Too much motion in his game for me and I think we'll see playing behind the disciplined D first Bruins made him a good goalie.. Lotta scrambles in front of him.

We'll see though cuz I think they gotta move him don't they?

Not sure on the first goal, if Samsonov picked it up late? It did get thru/past 2 bodies... The Leafs just mighta won this thing with Holl in goal but man Swayman is damn good and the difference in the game and series.

Goalies are hockey players, man. Make plays besides stopping pucks.
- Mr Ricochet

I thought Samsonov played a pretty good game overall. I don’t think I can fault him too much for the overtime goal. As much gruff as he got, it’s still Pasternak. Losing to him on basically a breakaway isn’t unheard of.

I don’t think I heard Marner’s name for most of the game unless the announcer was just calling out names that Matthews was playing with. I thought people said that he’s the one who plays the best defense of all “four”.

I thought Samsonov played a pretty good game overall. I don’t think I can fault him too much for the overtime goal. As much gruff as he got, it’s still Pasternak. Losing to him on basically a breakaway isn’t unheard of.

I don’t think I heard Marner’s name for most of the game unless the announcer was just calling out names that Matthews was playing with. I thought people said that he’s the one who plays the best defense of all “four”.
- Chunk

Marner is very good defensively but more with his positioning, his stick and anticipation. He’s not physical at all. Although I was surprised to see him make contact with every single Bruin tonight ….. in the lineup while shaking hands.

Not sure on the first goal, if Samsonov picked it up late? It did get thru/past 2 bodies... The Leafs just mighta won this thing with Holl in goal but man Swayman is damn good and the difference in the game and series.

Goalies are hockey players, man. Make plays besides stopping pucks.
- Mr Ricochet

He's backed into his net protecting against the low shot and gets beat short side over his shoulder. Big time goalies don't give up a goal like that in that situation.

And Kelly Hrudey called him out for not playing the puck on the OT goal.

And this Toronto excuse making that Woll would have been the difference is just silly. He played 2 good games in the series when the Leafs decided to play real tight defence. Woll seems injury prone, missed a lot of games.

I thought Samsonov played a pretty good game overall. I don’t think I can fault him too much for the overtime goal. As much gruff as he got, it’s still Pasternak. Losing to him on basically a breakaway isn’t unheard of.

I don’t think I heard Marner’s name for most of the game unless the announcer was just calling out names that Matthews was playing with. I thought people said that he’s the one who plays the best defense of all “four”.
- Chunk

He just has to play that puck somehow / some way but without any hesitation. But he wasn't the only player at fault on the play.

He just has to play that puck somehow / some way but without any hesitation. But he wasn't the only player at fault on the play.
- RickJ

Are you enjoying your Nickel and Nickel? I'll have to give that a try. I went to a restaurant and had Emmolo , merlot, very tasty but a bit pricy. I do buy a bottle but don't share with company

Every second round matchup looks tough, very tough.
And the Oilers still get a couple more days off...

Cannot wait for the 'Hawks to be in the mix. But I'm old enough to remember that one year when they went worst to first! 1969-70?

Every second round matchup looks tough, very tough.
And the Oilers still get a couple more days off...

Cannot wait for the 'Hawks to be in the mix. But I'm old enough to remember that one year when they went worst to first! 1969-70?
- 35Tony0

Yes ancient times when losing on purpose was not considered virtuous.

Yes ancient times when losing on purpose was not considered virtuous.
- LAHawk

If we were witnessing another team doing what Chicago has done the past two years we wouldn’t like it at all. Funny how we, myself included, are willing to overlook the hypocrisy. I need a shower, I feel dirty.

Meanwhile, over on the Leaves board, Kyle Dumas is assuming the role of Stan.

Meanwhile, over on the Leaves board, Kyle Dumas is assuming the role of Stan.
- mohel

If Dumas really want to to try to win with his group, then he has to make a few changes. He might get farther in the playiffs should everything click. Usually teams don't have everything click so Leafs would fail again

Better back end as in moving the puck to forwards and get rid of Marner and Tavarez. I don't believe you get to a Cup final with their gialtending and Woll has an Injury history.

I am.no expert here on Leafs and I have no idea whether they can replace players mentioned plus upgrade defense. Might argue a new coach, new system BUT wow that would be a real change.

I would bet that Dumas will only tinker with his team. He should let Tavarez go and substitute for Marner. Marner for a mid first round pick - some team might bite. The NYI want to think that they can get into playoffs still with Roy coaching. Will Roy restore Sorokin to #1 and would NYI take Marner? They don't draft early enough and probably can't fit Marner under the cap, or could they if Toronto helped in some way

I am just tossing around the obvious first thoughts that come to mind regarding Leafs future

If Dumas really want to to try to win with his group, then he has to make a few changes. He might get farther in the playiffs should everything click. Usually teams don't have everything click so Leafs would fail again

Better back end as in moving the puck to forwards and get rid of Marner and Tavarez. I don't believe you get to a Cup final with their gialtending and Woll has an Injury history.

I am.no expert here on Leafs and I have no idea whether they can replace players mentioned plus upgrade defense. Might argue a new coach, new system BUT wow that would be a real change.

I would bet that Dumas will only tinker with his team. He should let Tavarez go and substitute for Marner. Marner for a mid first round pick - some team might bite. The NYI want to think that they can get into playoffs still with Roy coaching. Will Roy restore Sorokin to #1 and would NYI take Marner? They don't draft early enough and probably can't fit Marner under the cap, or could they if Toronto helped in some way

I am just tossing around the obvious first thoughts that come to mind regarding Leafs future
- jhawk59

You did know Dubas is Pittsburgh’s GM right?

If Dumas really want to to try to win with his group, then he has to make a few changes. He might get farther in the playiffs should everything click. Usually teams don't have everything click so Leafs would fail again

Better back end as in moving the puck to forwards and get rid of Marner and Tavarez. I don't believe you get to a Cup final with their gialtending and Woll has an Injury history.

I am.no expert here on Leafs and I have no idea whether they can replace players mentioned plus upgrade defense. Might argue a new coach, new system BUT wow that would be a real change.

I would bet that Dumas will only tinker with his team. He should let Tavarez go and substitute for Marner. Marner for a mid first round pick - some team might bite. The NYI want to think that they can get into playoffs still with Roy coaching. Will Roy restore Sorokin to #1 and would NYI take Marner? They don't draft early enough and probably can't fit Marner under the cap, or could they if Toronto helped in some way

I am just tossing around the obvious first thoughts that come to mind regarding Leafs future
- jhawk59

Dubas is no longer with the Leafs, hence the Stan comparison, Treliving is the Leafs new GM and he has his work cut out for him. They need to figure out how to get rid of Tavares, I’d take him since there’s only one year left on his contract, however the Leafs will have to pay for that, and Tavares probably wouldn’t waive for the Hawks. Tavares and Knies for FC…

USA V Canada, Gold Medal Game right now. 10:00 puck drop.

Dubas is no longer with the Leafs, hence the Stan comparison, Treliving is the Leafs new GM and he has his work cut out for him. They need to figure out how to get rid of Tavares, I’d take him since there’s only one year left on his contract, however the Leafs will have to pay for that, and Tavares probably wouldn’t waive for the Hawks. Tavares and Knies for FC…
- Angotti

Dubas has a greater challenge than Treveling in Toronto.Less to work with and a declining franchise with declining former stars. Karlsson was a mistake.

Dubas is no longer with the Leafs, hence the Stan comparison, Treliving is the Leafs new GM and he has his work cut out for him. They need to figure out how to get rid of Tavares, I’d take him since there’s only one year left on his contract, however the Leafs will have to pay for that, and Tavares probably wouldn’t waive for the Hawks. Tavares and Knies for FC…
- Angotti

There’s no way the Leafs move Knies even to unload Tavares’ contract however Easton Cowen would be a nice piece. But I agree Tavares wouldn’t be a bad guy to have for a season. But as you say it’s unlikely he waives his NMC for Chicago.

Love Demidov. Can you just imagine and Bedard on the same line with Demidov for 10 yrs on a line with a beefy winger to get em the puck although Demidov is a first rate puck hound? ....... But he is a Cossack and I just can't live with the risk inside the top 5.

At 10, sure at 2-3-4 no, especially with at least one of Buium, D!ckenson or even Levshunov or Lindstrom available. ....... I do think KD and Crew go Dman. IMO an NHL 1st pairing guy will be available when they pick and those kinds are damn near impossible to pass on.
- Mr Ricochet

I thought we traded our 25 yr old 2 time 40 goal scorer DeBrincat for the 1st pairing draft pick Korchinski ? Hmmm....guess not.
I'll never accept that trade unless KK develops quickly into 1st pairing dman.

Mr Ricochet, I love the way the words,"First pair defenseman" get bandied about.

I always wonder how anyone determines that beofre they see the dfensers against NHL forwards who can dominate games.

I hardly think that the Maple Leafs make-over includes one of the players who played his bags off, being traded. #23.

Mr Ricochet, I love the way the words,"First pair defenseman" get bandied about.

I always wonder how anyone determines that beofre they see the dfensers against NHL forwards who can dominate games.

I hardly think that the Maple Leafs make-over includes one of the players who played his bags off, being traded. #23.
- wiz1901

#23 Knies

Wiz
Could you tell the board what you think about Del Maestro liklihood to become a solid defender for a decade? And whether the notion that he has slow feet is an overrated opinion

I recall when he was drafted that some reporting said that he needed to work on his skating

I cannot say much about his skating because I have not focused much on his skating