That’s it. Done till Thursday when Management comes out and supports the team and players and runs it back.
- Bullot

Could be. Gives us a few days to wrap our heads around it. great plan.

Willy didn't just come off a 6 year deal he hasn't lived up too, he was actually incredibly underpaid through his previous deal. So big difference there.
- joel878

Oh i agree. Marner got too much money from Dubas, but thats mostly on dubas.
However marner did post a 94pt season prior to the contract...Nylander never came close to that until 22/23 and this year.
Marners been over a point per game player since 2018/19 1.22ppg. So hes been close to earning his salary.
Like ive said many times, if he wants more than 11.5m on his next contract, he can (frank) off.

That’s it. Done till Thursday when Management comes out and supports the team and players and runs it back.
- Bullot

They pay an awful lot of people to do roles no other teams seem to have to not have a ton of success

Surprising to see a god-like team get eliminated in the 1st round.
- Marwood

Are you canvassing for a few fans to watch the Knuckle heads series?

Oh i agree. Marner got too much money from Dubas, but thats mostly on dubas.
However marner did post a 94pt season prior to the contract...Nylander never came close to that until 22/23 and this year.
Marners been over a point per game player since 2018/19 1.22ppg. So hes been close to earning his salary.
Like ive said many times, if he wants more than 11.5m on his next contract, he can (frank) off.
- Fakepartofme

Marner will come in between 11.5 (Willy) and 13.2 (AM)

My guess is 12.75

imo Woll the the biggest impact. he went head to head with Swayman who did not give up a weak goal the whole series. he had 6 quality starts. Woll was able to best him in 2 starts

Samsonov was decent in gm 7, but he needed to be better than swayman..who was the best goalie in rd1
- senstroll

If Boston was down their 2 top players and swayman got injured we would have beaten them. Then the naysayers here would be trying to attach an asterisk to it.

Marner will come in between 11.5 (Willy) and 13.2 (AM)

My guess is 12.75
- senstroll

Then he can fk right the hell off.

These guys pressers are (frank)ing sickening.

I hope Elliotte is right and they end this poopshow.

We have tried this. It doesn't work. Our defense isn't as bad as everyone thinks. We held Boston to plenty of low scoring games in round 1 and unless two more dmen are going to help make every game a shut out, it ain't happening.
- Aaron_85

Its not as bad.
But we have no one from the back end that can change the outcome of a game either. Shutting people down or a big shot.
I get it, we didnt have assets to acquire that type of dman this season and tre did a good job with what he had imo.
But thats been lacking for years, it needs to be dealt with.
And maybe thats with moving marner out or waiting until Jt is off the books.

We'll see.

These guys pressers are (frank)ing sickening.

I hope Elliotte is right and they end this poopshow.
- fifty__missions

Elliotte said it could be next year, not necessarily this year.

Elliotte said it could be next year, not necessarily this year.
- Fakepartofme

run it back. MM in a contract year could be amazing. His playoff performance will dictate his contract.

Marner will come in between 11.5 (Willy) and 13.2 (AM)

My guess is 12.75
- senstroll

I truly hope so.

Its not as bad.
But we have no one from the back end that can change the outcome of a game either. Shutting people down or a big shot.
I get it, we didnt have assets to acquire that type of dman this season and tre did a good job with what he had imo.
But thats been lacking for years, it needs to be dealt with.
And maybe thats with moving marner out or waiting until Jt is off the books.

We'll see.
- Fakepartofme

Next year is going to be pretty painful. Willy's contract kicks in, JT is still on the books, and I'm very skeptical of them being able to move MM. Going to be a lot of holes to fill with minimal cap space.

If Boston was down their 2 top players and swayman got injured we would have beaten them. Then the naysayers here would be trying to attach an asterisk to it.
- shack67

There's been "would have" every season for almost a decade. If my aunt had a Richard she'd have been my uncle. Everyone is sick of would have.

Next year is going to be pretty painful. Willy's contract kicks in, JT is still on the books, and I'm very skeptical of them being able to move MM. Going to be a lot of holes to fill with minimal cap space.
- Whipper

Agreed.
Been saying all season, that next year may be a step back.
But we'll see.

If Boston was down their 2 top players and swayman got injured we would have beaten them. Then the naysayers here would be trying to attach an asterisk to it.
- shack67

Sammy let in that tie goal, just left the side wide open. Woll didnt do that.
was no room for error and Sammy tends to leave room for that. even if he was really good otherwise.

anyways...no point dissecting it further.
stupid leafs suck

If Boston was down their 2 top players and swayman got injured we would have beaten them. Then the naysayers here would be trying to attach an asterisk to it.
- shack67

Considering all the injuries, the leafs did well for sure.
Its just another year of being close and not succeeding

Then he can fk right the hell off.
- Whipper

he will sign again with the leafs.

run it back

Marner will come in between 11.5 (Willy) and 13.2 (AM)

My guess is 12.75
- senstroll

At that, I hope it’s somewhere else.

I have a hard time believing Marner won't try to suck every penny out of the Leafs again.
- Santo_44

Probably ..and then it becomes an easier narrative for Tree.

There's been "would have" every season for almost a decade. If my aunt had a Richard she'd have been my uncle. Everyone is sick of would have.
- joel878

Nobody can honestly say that the injuries and illness didn’t have an impact and alter the outcome. The team played pretty good and they didn’t give up many shots. This was the first year that I thought we had the better team.

So basically roll it back... at some point, you have to stop banging your head against the wall.

Marner's gone, Keefe's gone, possibly even Tree. Full house clean-out. Let's go.
- gravyface

Absolutely not roll it back.

You say full house clean-out? Okay. Get rid of Matthews too? 1 goal in the entire series? Won more games without him than with him?

Stupid right? Exactly.

You keep the best players you have in their prime years and you cut out the fat.

Firing Shanahan, Treliving, Keefe and getting rid of the bottom half of the team.

But you keep your best players which is absolutely Matthews, Marner and Nylander.

If anybody should be asked to waive the NMC, it's Tavares. End of story.

You know that Shanahan is the President, right? Tree is the GM, and he makes the decisions on personnel.
- gravyface

You know that Shanahan is the guy making all the decisions and Treliving is doing the paper work right?

Considering all the injuries, the leafs did well for sure.
Its just another year of being close and not succeeding
- Fakepartofme

3 wins out of 16

kinda not close

If Boston was down their 2 top players and swayman got injured we would have beaten them. Then the naysayers here would be trying to attach an asterisk to it.
- shack67

If my aunt had wheels….
As far as playoff success goes, the only thing we are left with are, ifs.

Considering all the injuries, the leafs did well for sure.
Its just another year of being close and not succeeding
- Fakepartofme

I thought they played playoff hockey for the first time, just terrible luck on the injury front.