It's been one goal games and two went to ot. It's not as if the rangers are running over them.
- Mancalledsting

They are still down 3-0 and the Canes were right there with the Rangers all year.

They are still down 3-0 and the Canes were right there with the Rangers all year.
- ses111

Right. Sometimes it's just the matchup. As we just saw with the Isles-Canes. You can be "right there" (pulock) and still lose.

Right. Sometimes it's just the matchup. As we just saw with the Isles-Canes. You can be "right there" (pulock) and still lose.
- Mancalledsting

Talent wise, the Islanders were not close to the Canes. The Canes have been off the entire playoffs.

It's been one goal games and two went to ot. It's not as if the rangers are running over them.
- Mancalledsting

Special teams is dominating the series. Rangers high-end PP is overpowering the Canes high-end PK and the Canes PP hasn't scored a single goal in the series. That's where the difference is. Carolina has been fine at even strength.

Whoever beats the Rangers is going to need to do it on special teams or absolutely overwhelm them at 5v5, otherwise they're going to ride their PP and a hot goalie all the way to the Cup

Special teams is dominating the series. Rangers high-end PP is overpowering the Canes high-end PK and the Canes PP hasn't scored a single goal in the series. That's where the difference is. Carolina has been fine at even strength.

Whoever beats the Rangers is going to need to do it on special teams or absolutely overwhelm them at 5v5, otherwise they're going to ride their PP and a hot goalie all the way to the Cup
- eichiefs9

Goaltending has been an issue for the Canes as well.

Special teams is dominating the series. Rangers high-end PP is overpowering the Canes high-end PK and the Canes PP hasn't scored a single goal in the series. That's where the difference is. Carolina has been fine at even strength.

Whoever beats the Rangers is going to need to do it on special teams or absolutely overwhelm them at 5v5, otherwise they're going to ride their PP and a hot goalie all the way to the Cup
- eichiefs9

I can see a very competitive rags-cats series. Panthers were my pick to come out of the east.

I can see a very competitive rags-cats series. Panthers were my pick to come out of the east.
- Mancalledsting

I think the Panthers pose the biggest threat for the Rangers for sure. They're dirty/physical/skilled and have the big guns to skate with the Rangers team.

I think the Panthers pose the biggest threat for the Rangers for sure. They're dirty/physical/skilled and have the big guns to skate with the Rangers team.
- eichiefs9

They are gonna hate Tkachuk with a passion.

They are gonna hate Tkachuk with a passion.
- potvin05

If the Rangers were smart they would have Trouba elbow him into next season in game 1. 😆

If the Rangers were smart they would have Trouba elbow him into next season in game 1. 😆
- Cptmjl

You can count on that in Game 1. Every Ranger fan after: "Clean hit!"

If the Rangers were smart they would have Trouba elbow him into next season in game 1. 😆
- Cptmjl

Haha I don’t think he needs to. They’re dialed in as a team, and Shesty has been lights out. They very well could win the cup this year. Which might be good for the isles. Put some pressure on Lou and Paddy to make the necessary changes to ice a solid squad in the fall. Would be fun to have both teams relevant at the same time. Been to long since Isles have played them in the playoffs.

Haha I don’t think he needs to. They’re dialed in as a team, and Shesty has been lights out. They very well could win the cup this year. Which might be good for the isles. Put some pressure on Lou and Paddy to make the necessary changes to ice a solid squad in the fall. Would be fun to have both teams relevant at the same time. Been to long since Isles have played them in the playoffs.
- streaks

Wut

Wut
- Cptmjl

You don’t think the Rangers playoff success puts pressure on Lou? Maybe not.

You don’t think the Rangers playoff success puts pressure on Lou? Maybe not.
- streaks

Lou has full autonomy with this club. I don’t think he feels much pressure if any at all. Also, the last thing I want is the Rangers winning a cup no matter the benefit to us.

Lou has full autonomy with this club. I don’t think he feels much pressure if any at all. Also, the last thing I want is the Rangers winning a cup no matter the benefit to us.
- Cptmjl

If the ownership consisted of George Steinbrenner, yes, I think it would. However, I do not see Ledecky or Malkin putting that type of pressure on Lou. Ledecky was heard saying what could be better with two Hall of Famers in Lou and Patrick.

Any thoughts of these two guys?

https://eyesonisles.com/p...-islanders-01hxmqz1p5ts/3

If the ownership consisted of George Steinbrenner, yes, I think it would. However, I do not see Ledecky or Malkin putting that type of pressure on Lou. Ledecky was heard saying what could be better with two Hall of Famers in Lou and Patrick.

Any thoughts of these two guys?

https://eyesonisles.com/p...-islanders-01hxmqz1p5ts/3
- Nfdbulldawg

I don’t dislike Roy at all but I will say I don’t know if he’s a great coach or a bad one. All of the same problems we had with Lambert were there while Roy was our coach. Penalty kill awful, terrible defense, unable to hold leads, six game losing streaks, etc. I have a hard time understanding why the fanbase seems to be completely enamored with him. I assume it’s hope. I almost wish Roy wasn’t our coach because I’d rather have Brind’Amour. I don’t think Carolina is going to resign him.

I say that acknowledging his team has hit a rut with advancing past the 2nd round recently and been unable to advance to the cup with him as coach. With that said I could be completely wrong, but I think he’s a better coach then Roy imo.

I don’t dislike Roy at all but I will say I don’t know if he’s a great coach or a bad one. All of the same problems we had with Lambert were there while Roy was our coach. Penalty kill awful, terrible defense, unable to hold leads, six game losing streaks, etc. I have a hard time understanding why the fanbase seems to be completely enamored with him. I assume it’s hope. I almost wish Roy wasn’t our coach because I’d rather have Brind’Amour. I don’t think Carolina is going to resign him.

I say that acknowledging his team has hit a rut with advancing past the 2nd round recently and been unable to advance to the cup with him as coach. With that said I could be completely wrong, but I think he’s a better coach then Roy imo.
- Cptmjl

I like Patrick as a coach and think he has promise, but this is a big offseason and he has got to try to convince Lou on some sort of re-tool this offseason. Patrick also needs to at least replace Houda on the staff.

I like Rod as a coach, but he is not showing much in terms of adjustments during this Rangers series. I would still hire Rod as a coach if I had an opening, but Rod takes a hit if the Canes lose.

Lou has full autonomy with this club. I don’t think he feels much pressure if any at all. Also, the last thing I want is the Rangers winning a cup no matter the benefit to us.
- Cptmjl

Maybe it’s because the isles sucked for so long and haven’t had a playoff series with the Rangers, but I don’t have the hate. Other teams yes. I’m not cheering for them, but if them going deep in the playoffs puts any pressure on Lou, I’m for it. You’re probably right that he doesn’t feel any pressure. He should though just based on his age. Doesn’t have much time to create a winner. Or in this earth for that matter 😂😂

Maybe it’s because the isles sucked for so long and haven’t had a playoff series with the Rangers, but I don’t have the hate. Other teams yes. I’m not cheering for them, but if them going deep in the playoffs puts any pressure on Lou, I’m for it. You’re probably right that he doesn’t feel any pressure. He should though just based on his age. Doesn’t have much time to create a winner. Or in this earth for that matter 😂😂
- streaks

This is what scares me. I do not want Lou thinking this roster still has a chance at the Cup. I also do not want Lou sacrificing more of the future. Lou has to understand the team needs to rebuild. Nelson and Palms are not the future and even if the Islanders have the Cap room, when have the shown the ability to sign quality UFA's? The #18 pick is not likely to get an impact player anyway.

This is what scares me. I do not want Lou thinking this roster still has a chance at the Cup. I also do not want Lou sacrificing more of the future. Lou has to understand the team needs to rebuild. Nelson and Palms are not the future and even if the Islanders have the Cap room, when have the shown the ability to sign quality UFA's? The #18 pick is not likely to get an impact player anyway.
- ses111

They’ve had too much money in bottom six players. Letting 15 and 17 walk, would be a good start. Use the extra money for higher end top six players.

They’ve had too much money in bottom six players. Letting 15 and 17 walk, would be a good start. Use the extra money for higher end top six players.
- streaks

Yep! I'm not sure letting 15 and 17 walk gets you enough space for the top 6. Islanders are going to have to dome something with Nelson, Palms, or JGP. I just do not see the team pulling off the moves that make them a Cup contender.

[quote=Cptmjl]I don’t dislike Roy at all but I will say I don’t know if he’s a great coach or a bad one. All of the same problems we had with Lambert were there while Roy was our coach. Penalty kill awful, terrible defense, unable to hold leads, six game losing streaks, etc. I have a hard time understanding why the fanbase seems to be completely enamored with him. I assume it’s hope. I almost wish Roy wasn’t our coach because I’d rather have Brind’Amour. I don’t think Carolina is going to resign him.

Roy is a passionate coach unlike Lambert. Most fans IMO like to see their coach have passion. Roy was a fierce competitor as player and his younger days as a coach. While not all good players make good coaches. I did not see Lambert getting this team into the playoffs. So, while similar aspects of this team did not change, Roy found a way to get them into the playoffs. To my surprise, he kept the games close and gave this team a chance. I personally thought the Canes were going to complete embarrass the Islanders. I was very wrong. I think if Lou allows him to have input you will see changes that will complement his coaching style and potentially see a stronger team next season.

I say that acknowledging his team has hit a rut with advancing past the 2nd round recently and been unable to advance to the cup with him as coach. With that said I could be completely wrong, but I think he’s a better coach then Roy imo.

I think Brind'Amor is a very good Coach and yes, I would say he is better than Roy.

This is what scares me. I do not want Lou thinking this roster still has a chance at the Cup. I also do not want Lou sacrificing more of the future. Lou has to understand the team needs to rebuild. Nelson and Palms are not the future and even if the Islanders have the Cap room, when have the shown the ability to sign quality UFA's? The #18 pick is not likely to get an impact player anyway.
- ses111

Most picks are pure speculation. You as an organization make an educational guess and hope you are correct. The #18 pick is not likely to get an impact player anyway. This logic holds true if you are dealing the pick for an established player with a proven track record.

While I have always been a supporter of trade picks for established players, you cannot ignore the farm system. You need players to be able to slot in during injuries and push the vets for a spot.

If the Isles can get younger (players and picks) by moving Neslon or Palms. Do it. But do not do it to just do it.

Most picks are pure speculation. You as an organization make an educational guess and hope you are correct. The #18 pick is not likely to get an impact player anyway. This logic holds true if you are dealing the pick for an established player with a proven track record.

While I have always been a supporter of trade picks for established players, you cannot ignore the farm system. You need players to be able to slot in during injuries and push the vets for a spot.

If the Isles can get younger (players and picks) by moving Neslon or Palms. Do it. But do not do it to just do it.
- Nfdbulldawg

I just do not like the idea of trading another #1 pick even if this year is not known for being a strong draft. The draft is obviously difficult, but other teams have managed to do pretty well. I'm fine with younger players and picks for Nelson and Palms.

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I will not be happy if the Canes lose, but Rod is still a very good coach. I think the goalies are holding the Canes back. This falls on the GM.


I think Islanders fans do like the passion and energy Patrick brings. This is still a big offseason in terms of Patrick handling his staff and if the roster is different. If it's pretty much the same roster, Patrick is going to have a hard time.