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wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 12 @ 3:51 PM ET
Reichel and Nazar fit somewhere in top two lines so who does KD envision as the L2 center or new L2 forward to mix with his trooos?
- jhawk59


I think They see Olllie Moore and Nazar in the mix as 2nd line centres with interchangablity their strengths to wing, PP, and PK.
It is really a tough read now of which wins the second line job, but I bet they would love to have Moore bigger and better and ready developmentally.
Nazar is so easyt to play any where, and maybe the hawks will have to downgarde expectations on both to be wingers. Lots of time for the results on their elevation of development to have to decide on their final positions IF they pan out.

Reichel still has to score and work the wall before there are any more chances in the top end of the roster, as competition is coming.


I see Kantserov as a bonus if he comes over.
- jhawk59


I was just wondering that if the hawks were selecting and soon signing Demidov, they might buy two tickets for two left-handed right wings and then they can plan a double Western culture transition, one interpreter, just as that may lighten the adjustment...who knows if one is married or living with a partner and that is an impossibility?


I personally like what Yaremchuk and Kk could mean but question taking Yarechuk over Levishinov. Yaremchuk is RD and KK is LD so playoff difference makers as attack dmen both with.certain superlative skillet. Win with them/difference makers.

- jhawk59


I don't see taking a RD like Yakemchuk out of the realm of possibility.

And if you draft a RD early, and he turns out a better attaclkng power play defenseman, developing past KK, it certsinly caps how much they will end up paying KK if a rearguard arrives and is better on the offensive side.

Colorado's second power play before the trade of Bryram Bowen had 3 defenseman, so, if you have got fleet a foot backliners who attack and play their position, it certainly seems that this draft could have the hawkks grabbing a high end one. early.

Adam Jiricek landing spot is the one I am most curious of...they draftnicks have him back in that top 15 pile like he never was in jured and played all year.

Me I see him handing around to get picked later in the first rd.

I simply don't see any of the forwards Sacha Boisvert, Beckett Sennecke, Liam Greentree with more upside to the guys ahead of them in my mock draft... only have Michael Hage there at 20 because I want him to be a Hawk.
but, he also doesn't walk in ready for a major league job.
Russian LHRW Yegor Surin is a not on any ones first rd. but mine. I think he and LHRW Igor Chernyshov, LHRW (depending upon his chronic shoulder issues) LW Nikita Artamonov, RD Matvei Shuravin, RD Timur Kol are providing a bountiful collection from the motherland.

Also lumped in the secondary level forward bunch are RWTerik Parascak, Lindstrom's left winger, Andrew Basha, RW Michael Brandsegg-Nygård C Linus Eriksson, Emil Hemming, LHRW Matvei Gridin, and I wouldn't be surprised if Jett Luchanko is off the board before most of them.
You also have to wonder about the two GIANT dark horses who might both be slected in the first beacsue of their intriguing size, RC Dean Letourneau, and LD Jesse Pulkkinen.
I keep thinking that teams will shy away from the smaller backliners like Cole Hutson and Aron Kiviharju, both who are truly hockey players in small ecomony size.
and do not forget Jiri Fischer's LD son who alreay plays advanced.

I have no advice to the Blackhawks who they should pick where; I just know I see a lot of high end prospects dotting my top 80 who might drop into the Blackhawk's laps if Kyle doesn't trade the surplus for selectiuons in future drafts or in a trade package to take Oliver Moore (even though he didn't need to).
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 12 @ 3:56 PM ET
All three for me.
- rpeters01



A Morman, eh?
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 12 @ 3:59 PM ET


The rest of your post, Wiz, I do not understand.

- Mr Ricochet


It is, that "IF celebrini wasn't who San Jose was taking, they wouldn't trade out, they would simply take Demidov."
The San Jose GM said he is taking Celebrini probably because he is already better than Jonathan Toews.

I guess there are stranger things than you not recognizing demi-gorgon
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 12 @ 4:06 PM ET


I've posted I'm all in on Demidov cuz my eyes see Datsyuk and I can pick him apart 9 ways to Sunday but this is a case I ain't overthinking what my eyes see this freak doing it or how he's doing it but would still not draft him. Not at #2 when IMO there are 2-3 Dmen I see as real possibilities to be first pairing NHL Dmen and is a premier position. At #7 like Michkov, maybe, but not at #2. .... They must hit on this pick and I don't have the risk tolerance for all the variables of drafting a Russian.

- Mr Ricochet




And that is all I want the Blackhawks to do: See the selection as a premier NHL prospect.
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

May 12 @ 4:28 PM ET
I'm not sure Kane is in that camp. Why play for a team that likely won't make the playoffs?
- Dieselhead


Consider the job opening:
- Veteran RW
- Able to handle the puck and help Bedard
- Good scorer
- Willing to work with the young guys to make them better
- Won't ask for 8 year high AAV contract

There are a lot of players who could fit that and are free agents. There is one player that fits all that and has spent a long time with the team, has a bunch of team records and, if he returned, he could get a few more.

I would like to see the conversation happen about a return. If it does not work out, OK. But if there is no conversation, then I will still call him The Player Who Cannot Return.

Will try not to discuss this any more because it really is just not happening.
totem
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Seattle, WA
Joined: 06.14.2017

May 12 @ 4:59 PM ET
If the Hawks "unload" Jones' contact, they'll need to do two things.

1. Find a right shot defenseman to play 25 minutes per night against the other team's best players.

2. Spend an additional $9.5 million this offseason to reach the floor.

For #2, the BOD will rail against the player or players who come in because they will be overpaid and old.

For #1, remember, they are trying to improve this season.

- mohel


Agree - not against trading Jones, especially if he wants out, but there has to be a vet to take the heavy minutes. That was my thinking with my admittedly crazy trade proposal - this or something similar:

Jones to Toronto
Marner to Washington
Carlson and a prospect to Chicago

That exact trade may be too complicated or not possible given all the NMCs, etc., but the idea is, Jones out, Vet RD in, prospect in.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

May 12 @ 6:19 PM ET
Not wanting to be a downer but there is one prospect I am concerned about. Our own prospect and it is C Dach. It is due to his skating. I don't envision a long career.

I don't doubt he gets to the NHL. I just see a mixed bag as far as results. I know someone eventually can explain his skating issues better than myself, so when and if this person elaborates then we will all understand

- jhawk59


Not a lot of explosion and if you're 6'4 193 lbs (list on the AHL site) you're probably gonna spend a lot of time on your ass or getting pushed off the puck. His brother is smooth he's kinda choppy.

If he had a lot of speed I could see rationalizing staying kinda small but for someone that tall and with out a lot of turn and burn you'd like to see him over 210 and playing like a menace in front of the goal.

Mikko and the Russian on Colorado are 215 and 210 respectively and similar height though both move very well.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

May 12 @ 6:24 PM ET
I read where Celebrini and Levshunov are the only two NHL ready right now...
- rpeters01


Levshunov has a NHL build already. He's 6'2 215 - but probably needs another year in the NCAA to round out his game and flat out dominate would be the expectation.

The standard for most of these kids is at least 2 years of college hockey.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

May 12 @ 7:10 PM ET
Levshunov has a NHL build already. He's 6'2 215 - but probably needs another year in the NCAA to round out his game and flat out dominate would be the expectation.

The standard for most of these kids is at least 2 years of college hockey.

- fattybeef

If you want the guy who dominated the NCAA as a D-man, its Buium.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 12 @ 8:15 PM ET
It is, that "IF celebrini wasn't who San Jose was taking, they wouldn't trade out, they would simply take Demidov."

- wiz1901 The San Jose GM said he is taking Celebrini probably because he is already better than Jonathan Toews.

I guess there are stranger things than you not recognizing demi-gorgon


You don't think if SJ was on Demidov they wouldn't call the Hawks to ask what they'd give for the #1 pick?? They'd be nuts not to call and KD would be nuts not to take the call.

Like you though, I think SJ is on Celebrini but we just won't know until Draft Day. Maybe they're on Levshunov?
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

May 12 @ 8:27 PM ET
Levshunov has a NHL build already. He's 6'2 215 - but probably needs another year in the NCAA to round out his game and flat out dominate would be the expectation.

The standard for most of these kids is at least 2 years of college hockey.

- fattybeef


It is, especially for top guys, and a reason I like Vlasic so much. Not at Levshunov's level as a prospect but Vlasic was a kid who could have made the jump to the AHL but stayed a 3rd yr at BU instead. Then played a yr in the AHL.. A level headed kid who gets it.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

May 12 @ 9:16 PM ET
You don't think if SJ was on Demidov they wouldn't call the Hawks to ask what they'd give for the #1 pick?? They'd be nuts not to call and KD would be nuts not to take the call.

Like you though, I think SJ is on Celebrini but we just won't know until Draft Day. Maybe they're on Levshunov?

- Mr Ricochet


SJ is 100% drafting Celebrini. This is the worst kept secret in the NHL draft. I know it sucks we won't be getting him, but we won't be getting him. There is essentially zero chance of anything else happening.
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

May 12 @ 9:17 PM ET
Anyone else tired of watching the refs screw over teams with non-calls?

Kane slew foots Hughes
McDavid high sticks Hughes
The Bennet goal today was a joke.
It's nice to see Marchand take a punch to the face, but player safety should have suspended Bennet by now after seeing the reverse angle.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

May 12 @ 9:20 PM ET
Anyone else tired of watching the refs screw over teams with non-calls?

Kane slew foots Hughes
McDavid high sticks Hughes
The Bennet goal today was a joke.
It's nice to see Marchand take a punch to the face, but player safety should have suspended Bennet by now after seeing the reverse angle.

- Dieselhead


IMO, It's the same story every year. Vancouver got away with a ton as well in that game the other night, they just weren't calling much, but I've become pretty used to it. That punch on Marchand wasn't much, I can't see them taking any action.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

May 12 @ 10:00 PM ET
A few trades ideas/rumors I've seen circulating around:
Montreal trades the 5th and kaiden guhule for the 2nd overall pick
Montreal trades the 5th 27th and 2nd for the 2nd overall pick
Buffalo trade Jeff skinner 2 million retained and 11th pick for Hawks 20th pick
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 12 @ 10:10 PM ET
IMO, It's the same story every year. Vancouver got away with a ton as well in that game the other night, they just weren't calling much, but I've become pretty used to it. That punch on Marchand wasn't much, I can't see them taking any action.
- breadbag


Some great defense there by McDavid, eeewwww
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

May 12 @ 10:13 PM ET
Some great defense there by McDavid, eeewwww
- BetweenTheDots


I thought the same, Boeser with a Nice shot to take the lead.
SaskHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: SK
Joined: 05.18.2014

May 12 @ 10:18 PM ET
Boeser goes beast mode 3 in the first.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 12 @ 10:18 PM ET
Watching all these prospects Blackhawks have a tough choice. I worry about how small Demidov is, i kind of hope they lean towards Silayev if they draft a Russian from Russia. Levshunov or D!ckinson look good as well. I guess i do like my big defenseman who can skate and have good gap control.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 12 @ 10:18 PM ET
Boeser goes beast mode 3 in the first.
- SaskHawkFan


Nurse and Ceci on defense hahaha how did they beat the Kings
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

May 12 @ 10:42 PM ET
Some great defense there by McDavid, eeewwww
- BetweenTheDots


Will be interesting to see if Edmonton falls apart in this one or they push back and make a game of it. I'm sure it's about to get nasty some more.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

May 12 @ 10:48 PM ET
Will be interesting to see if Edmonton falls apart in this one or they push back and make a game of it. I'm sure it's about to get nasty some more.
- breadbag


That's a nasty shot
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 13 @ 10:27 AM ET
Will be interesting to see if Edmonton falls apart in this one or they push back and make a game of it. I'm sure it's about to get nasty some more.
- breadbag



The NHL is selling speed, action, and aggression, but if you are able to pull up the video with the McDavid's wild swing prior to the Adam's Apple massage, the "incident" puts a black mark on the sport in the mainstream.
https://www.hockeybuzz.co...-Buzzcast-at-3pm/1/125276

And the "player safety and security" office is in a spot as suspending McDavid and Larry & Curly weakens the Oilers, and is ptetty decent trade of Soucy, Zadorov for Vancouver.

It was the two on one thuggery that is common place in scrums that is now a "typical" sfter the whistle reaction for playoff players theses days, and it is not something they just "started doing as pros" - most of the NHL players from North America have witness, reacted, or added aggression in games prior to thei being NHLers.

The sport is who loses, in the court of public opinion.

I honestly don't think that Bennett meant the hard fist to Brad
Marchand's face on that collision either; but, it is not like a much younger Brad hadn't engaged in these type incidents where he was an aggressor, but that WAS a hockey play by Bennett.

The end of the Canuck-Oilers was about lack of control and respect for the part of the game's rules that were sewed into the lining of the fabric of rules: "When chasing the puck round you are under a lot less scutiny than if you were in a park, concert, or at church."
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

May 13 @ 11:50 AM ET
The NHL is selling speed, action, and aggression, but if you are able to pull up the video with the McDavid's wild swing prior to the Adam's Apple massage, the "incident" puts a black mark on the sport in the mainstream.

And the "player safety and security" office is in a spot as suspending McDavid and Larry & Curly weakens the Oilers, and is ptetty decent trade of Soucy, Zadorov for Vancouver.

It was the two on one thuggery that is common place in scrums that is now a "typical" sfter the whistle reaction for playoff players theses days, and it is not something they just "started doing as pros" - most of the NHL players from North America have witness, reacted, or added aggression in games prior to thei being NHLers.

The sport is who loses, in the court of public opinion.

I honestly don't thing that Bennett meant the hard fist to Brad
Marchand's face on that collision either; but, it is not like a much younger Brad hadn't engaged in these type incidents where he was an aggressor, but that WAS a hockey play by Bennett.

The end of the Canuck-Oilers was about lack of control and respect for the part of the game's rules that were sewed into the lining of the fabric of rules: "When chasing the puck round you are under a lot less scutiny than if you were in a park, concert, or at church."

- wiz1901



I saw that at the end of the game last night and the video is going around. I don't know if much will happen. I think Soucy probably the only one that gets either a fine or maybe a game out of it. I don't think he meant to get McDavid so high up, but it is what it is.

I also saw that apparently Stuart Skinner is statistically been one of the worst goalies in the playoffs of the salary cap era. This Oilers team really needs to figure out something in net and get a little more balance in their lines. After the top 2-4 guys not much is happening, they really need someone to step up and have an impactful 10-12 minutes a night.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

May 13 @ 12:11 PM ET
You think biden gets reelected?
- LFS


I think he is talking about the wife cheater who already orchastarted a physical assault of the Capitol resuklting in police dying. The one who have No political platform, b/c he changed what he says and belives day to day just like Mussolini.

Suppprt tryants and you beoem the unwitting facist.
Spend five minutes ready about him and it is easy to see why the Italians were pulled into his attraction.
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