Symba007
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Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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I liked Rex 20+ years ago when he was on 'Cross Country Checkup' on CBC. In his later years, he took to spreading the manure that people like drexel grow in. - fifty__missions
I only know him for the past 15 or so years, he was a (frank)ing moron just feeding BS to haters. |
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gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
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He’s giving pretty clear messages that they’ll at least raise the idea of moving with Mitch. Whether or not it happens isn’t really in their control - Canada Cup
Any quotes about that? |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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We accept your resignation. Leave your keyfob and security pass at the door. - The Law
Ok, guy who owns a share of blockbuster video. |
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Symba007
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON Joined: 02.26.2007
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Any quotes about that? - gravyface
no
We will look at everything, consider everything.
Treeguy: We don't talk about the core 4, we talk about players individually |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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7 year contract limitation
8 year contract + 1 year of 775K cost of MM
There are 2 options here and the 2nd one is the clear winner for both Marner and any team looking to add him long term.
If the leafs want to move Marner they absolutely can, with minimal issues.
They can even get a Chicago or the Ducks to retain his cap hit this season for 350K of they wanted to. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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People will read whatever they want into that press conference and Im sure there will be so many pages wasted on it in here.
But we'll wait and see what happens. Not gonna pretend to know what happens next. |
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gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
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Any quotes about that? - gravyface
luke fox
@lukefoxjukebox
Brendan Shanahan was asked if he still believes the core of the Maple Leafs can win.
His long answer did not include the word "yes."
He also didn't say no... I don't know, maybe they'll do something big. Or they won't. Queefs, who the (frank) knows? |
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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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curious to see how this unfolds but I have a feeling they (Shanny)will STRONGLY consider a contract extension for Marner.
change will come once Taraves is gone...I am not expecting much until then, Marner, Nylander and Mathews will be the core going long terms
Why spend 40M on the core 4 when you can do it on the core 3 - Symba007
Of course, the team won't let Marner walk without serious consideration.
It's more about can the Leafs win with Marner gobbling up a significant portion of the cap? Do the Leafs feel like his value is justified at 12M (or wherever the number lands) or would it be better spent upgrading the D and/or goaltending? Or, perhaps, bringing in a significant upgrade on 2C.
Tavares will re-sign for a sweetheart deal so there is certainly some cap savings there, but to me, it's about fit.
They've already made their bed with Auston, Willie, and Morgan. Does Marner fit?
I say it's time to make a signficant change and move the (frank) on. |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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I liked Rex 20+ years ago when he was on 'Cross Country Checkup' on CBC. In his later years, he took to spreading the manure that people like drexel grow in. - fifty__missions
This.
Ian is much better anyways. |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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If Shanny is still here, so is the Core 4. I don't see them doing anything with Marner until the off-season next year, and he'll probably walk. - gravyface
He got asked "do you still believe in them" and he didn't say yes ..in fact he said something along the lines of " you assess that every year and eventually at a certain time considering ages and where they are and patterns of outcomes you assess all of those things further".
That's clear language ....the patterns they've seen are that this Core is not able to get
it done.
Changes ...they're going to try to their best to make them. Keeping in mind that nothing operates in a vacuum ...the change has to be for the better.
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Any quotes about that? - gravyface
Nope.
Not really |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Any quotes about that? - gravyface
This isn’t time for patience when asked if he has confidence that Core 4 can get it done. Words to that effect anyway |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Tre stumbling through the presser.
Doesn’t sound prepared. - Nighthawk
You watching in china? That wasn't true. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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People will read whatever they want into that press conference and Im sure there will be so many pages wasted on it in here.
But we'll wait and see what happens. Not gonna pretend to know what happens next. - Fakepartofme
Cool you don't have to participate in those discussions then, go along with your day |
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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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good riddance - Symba007
JFC.
I can understand not liking the man, but this is a pretty (frank)ed up take, dude. |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Nope.
Not really - Fakepartofme
You’re right he didn’t come out and say he’s going to trade the guy with a NMC before getting a list of teams. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
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Without saying it explicitly, the #leafs leadership/management couldn't have made it more clear reading between the lines that they're going to explore moving one or more members of their core this summer. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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luke fox
@lukefoxjukebox
Brendan Shanahan was asked if he still believes the core of the Maple Leafs can win.
His long answer did not include the word "yes."
He also didn't say no... I don't know, maybe they'll do something big. Or they won't. Queefs, who the (frank) knows? - gravyface
Brendan practiced his PR responses before this for sure.
Good for him
Extend him 10 more years
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Any quotes about that? - gravyface
Watching SN follow up ...and it's all their talking about in terms of 'take aways' ...change coming ....want to change the core ... |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Ok, guy who owns a share of blockbuster video. - Arctic_AARDVARK
This is almost intelligent. So close, guy who serves me ice cream at the drive through window. |
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gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
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Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
Without saying it explicitly, the #leafs leadership/management couldn't have made it more clear reading between the lines that they're going to explore moving one or more members of their core this summer.
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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You watching in china? That wasn't true. - The Law
He was searching for words often. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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i wasnt listening close, but this is good
Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
Without saying it explicitly, the #leafs leadership/management couldn't have made it more clear reading between the lines that they're going to explore moving one or more members of their core this summer.
todd leigh offside
@Totally_Offside
Mostly a waste of a presser except for the last two questions from Jonas. Sounds like Leafs mgmt is ready to make a change here but don't want to come out and say if for fear they can't or that it hurts their negotiating position.
birky
@b1rky
Sure sounds like a certain someone will be dealt this summer, if at all possible. That last answer from Shanahan comes about as close to saying the core four is done as you could possibly expect.
adding to this
Marner lol...just awful
The 3 core Leafs playoff careers in G5-7:
Matthews - 19 gp, 416.87 mins of TOI, 8 goals, 13 pts, 1.15 G/60, 1.87 pts/60
Nylander - 21 gp, 398.49 mins of TOI, 7 goals, 17 pts, 1.05 G/60, 2.56 pts/60
Marner - 21 gp, 465.70 mins of TOI, 1 goal, 9 pts, 0.13 G/60, 1.16 pts/60 (!?!) |
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gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
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Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
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Without saying it explicitly, the #leafs leadership/management couldn't have made it more clear reading between the lines that they're going to explore moving one or more members of their core this summer. - Santo_44
Who the (frank) knows... I'm sure they explore all their options and take calls all the time.
When you're a perennial loser, like the ugly chick at school, you take any call if you think it's going to get you to the dance. |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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no
We will look at everything, consider everything.
Treeguy: We don't talk about the core 4, we talk about players individually - Symba007
Hey Symbalton ..that is being interpreted by the masses to mean ..they will now consider breaking up the core ...and in fact, that it will be their goal. |
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