Next coach comments interesting. Doesn't sound like it's imminent. Tree talked about the importance of going through the "process".

Tavares is gone.

Mitch stays.

It’s settled.

Tavares is gone.

Mitch stays.

It’s settled.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

No (frank)ing chance.

JT signs a nice discount.

If Marner wants to do that then great But he will not and I do not blame him.

i wasnt listening close, but this is good
- senstroll

I don't really like Jonas Seagull - he has a lot of idiotic takes - but his questions, which were the last questions, were the best.

Hey Symbalton ..that is being interpreted by the masses to mean ..they will now consider breaking up the core ...and in fact, that it will be their goal.
- The Law

The reality is, they should be looking at everything every year.
Doesnt mean they are breaking up of the core, but that they will do their due diligence...cover their tracks. In case the core is back and they say, ya we didnt find a trade we liked.

I don't really like Jonas Seagull - he has a lot of idiotic takes - but his questions, which were the last questions, were the best.
- fifty__missions

He does have idiotic takes....but once in while he's not afraid to ask a straight forward question

No (frank)ing chance.

JT signs a nice discount.

If Marner wants to do that then great But he will not and I do not blame him.
- Santo_44

Delete your account if JT is the one who gets moved?

Delete your account if JT is the one who gets moved?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Marner will get moved.

JT will stay and sign a nice discount.

I don't really like Jonas Seagull - he has a lot of idiotic takes - but his questions, which were the last questions, were the best.
- fifty__missions

Bang on. Those put Shanny in an uncomfortable spot but good for Shanny - he didn't hide and made it as clear as he could.

You can't expect them to say anything more (about the desire to trade a core piece) than that without the fear of putting Tree in a tough position. Gotta maintain MM's vale as best they can.

Marner will get moved.

JT will stay and sign a nice discount.
- Santo_44

Delete your account if JT gets moved?

Brent Burns is done.
- AdamFrench

Leafs sign in off-season....4 million a year, 5 year deal

Delete your account if JT gets moved?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Delete your account in general.

I am not playing your insecure games.

If Marner is here and JT is not rub it in my face all you want, I don't care.

We're boned.

Marner will veto any move, to prove us wrong and to keep the gang together... he'll follow up with a lackluster injury-riddled season so his trade value is ultra low after another round 1 loss, at which point he'll walk, sign with Vegas, and win a cup.

We're boned.

Marner will veto any move, to prove us wrong and to keep the gang together... he'll follow up with a lackluster injury-riddled season so his trade value is ultra low after another round 1 loss, at which point he'll walk, sign with Vegas, and win a cup.
- gravyface

There is no way the Leafs have hurt you this much

The reality is, they should be looking at everything every year.
Doesnt mean they are breaking up of the core, but that they will do their due diligence...cover their tracks. In case the core is back and they say, ya we didnt find a trade we liked.
- Fakepartofme

You're ignoring what they've said in the past. Last year - "we believe in this Core" .."we believe in the Process". Change always meant something different.

This year - all 3 of them were emphatic in saying everything is on the table. Add to that they acknowledged they need real change and that they're re-evaluating the process and recognizing "patterns". They can't make any real change (spending more on a goalie or on the blueline) without changing the Core.

They will try to change the Core ....whether they can or not ...TBD.

Tavares for Díckenson and Vlasic

Delete your account in general.

I am not playing your insecure games.

If Marner is here and JT is not rub it in my face all you want, I don't care.
- Santo_44

Settle down Santo.

Geeze, you get so worked up.

You always think you’re right and get snarky with everyone. Learn how to have a conversation.

You're ignoring what they've said in the past. Last year - "we believe in this Core" .."we believe in the Process". Change always meant something different.

This year - all 3 of them were emphatic in saying everything is on the table. Add to that they acknowledged they need real change and that they're re-evaluating the process and recognizing "patterns". They can't make any real change (spending more on a goalie or on the blueline) without changing the Core.

They will try to change the Core ....whether they can or not ...TBD.
- The Law

Yeah they won't be happy with themselves if the core is still here come training camp.

They know what they have to do.

Paul Marner is going to be a regular at Tootsies.

Settle down Santo.

Geeze, you get so worked up.

You always think you’re right and get snarky with everyone. Learn how to have a conversation.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Cool man

We're boned.

Marner will veto any move, to prove us wrong and to keep the gang together... he'll follow up with a lackluster injury-riddled season so his trade value is ultra low after another round 1 loss, at which point he'll walk, sign with Vegas, and win a cup.
- gravyface

Its already a giving....whoever, if anyone gets moved....they'll win a cup within a year or two with the new team.
Any player should rejoice that they have been traded or left the leafs.....its usually when they find the most success.
LOL

There is no way the Leafs have hurt you this much
- Santo_44

Dude, 40+ years of watching... does it get any worse?

Treliving is 100% going to go out and get a good goalie to pair with Woll.

The days of trying to jam a Sammy or a Campbell into this team are over.
- Santo_44

I don't trust Treliving and goalies. This is his GM history:

Signed Jonas Hiller as a UFA
- GSAx of 4, and then -17.2 in year 2.

Signed Chad Johnson as a UFA, and

Traded for Brian Elliot for a 2nd (Jordan Kyrou) & Conditional 3rd (not exercised)
Elliot posted a GSAx of -2.8; he was outperformed by Chad Johnson (1.7) and not resigned.

Traded for Mike Smith for Chad Johnson, Brandon Hickey and a conditional 3rd (not exercised)
- Smith posted a a GSAx of 12.53 in year 1, and -8.5 in year 2; That magical 3rd round pick just couldn't be traded.

Traded for Eddie Lack and a 7th (Dustin Wolf) for a 6th (not an NHLer)
- Lack sucked with a GSAx of -6.7 - which is impressive because he only played 4 games, and Wolf had a -7.7 this past year, but he could be an NHL goalie. Look. If you can get two poopty goalies for a 6th rounder? You gotta do it.

Signed Cam Talbot
- Talbot was only -.3 in GSAx, which led Talbot to think if I can not succeed here, I can not succeed anywhere! And off he went to the Oilers.

Signed Jacob Markstrom
- The best goalie move Treliving made. Year one was suspect with a GSAx of -12.1, but each year that followed was positive: 15.6, 1.5 and 28.9 this season

Traded for Daniel Vladar for a 3rd
- Vladar has had GSAx of -3.9, -5.3 and -10.8 in successive seasons. I, for one, respect his dedication to ignoring positive results.

Its already a giving....whoever, if anyone gets moved....they'll win a cup within a year or two with the new team.
Any player should rejoice that they have been traded or left the leafs.....its usually when they find the most success.
LOL
- Fakepartofme

Unless his playoff success involves beating the Leafs it is completely irrelevant to me.

Its already a giving....whoever, if anyone gets moved....they'll win a cup within a year or two with the new team.
Any player should rejoice that they have been traded or left the leafs.....its usually when they find the most success.
LOL
- Fakepartofme

I've always wondered about goals scored by ex-Leafs against us vs. other ex-players/ex-teams.

We gotta be at the top all-time.

I still think this is the hardest market to win in since they implemented a hard cap system.

Its already a giving....whoever, if anyone gets moved....they'll win a cup within a year or two with the new team.
Any player should rejoice that they have been traded or left the leafs.....its usually when they find the most success.
LOL
- Fakepartofme

Leafs miss the playoffs without Marner.

I’m not even joking.