dmnted
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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Sounds like Berube has the job if he wants it. In other news, this can’t be the only change. Leafs CANNOT resign Marner with a NTC. - Bullot
as long as it's an m-ntc but there will a nmc added |
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Canada Cup
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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When does the spotlight fall on the builder of this flawed roster ?? The douchenozzle that is shannascum ??? - dozerD10
The spotlight will be on him all season |
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Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB Joined: 07.04.2006
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If you've watched the series against Boston. There isn't much to ruin here... - Scabeh
I suppose we could start giving up shorties... |
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Whipper
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Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB Joined: 07.04.2006
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Sounds like Berube has the job if he wants it. In other news, this can’t be the only change. Leafs CANNOT resign Marner with a NTC. - Bullot
We can, and we will.
But seriously though, please no. |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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The Leafs needed to fire Keefe before this past season.
They needed to see whether or not the "core" could look any different under a different coach/different culture. Then, they could make a more educated decision on
Marner.
Now, they are in a situation where he may simply refuse a trade, or he agrees to a few teams and the Leafs get nowhere near his value in return because he has 1 year until UFA, or he walks for nothing at the end of next season, or they end up over-paying him, which might be the worst result of all.
This is the reason Shanahan should also be gone. There is no "Shanaplan".
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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I'm going to miss him. - hunglikeapuck
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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I suppose we could start giving up shorties... - Whipper
True. Habs powerplay coach Alex Burrows manages to do just that.
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GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: U Jealous of my Meteor Joined: 01.29.2013
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Pelley leaves him there as next year’s sacrificial lamb. Suits are doing suit things. My guess is that there’s a directive to explore moving Marner now or letting him go next summer. Shanny is a corporate player and knows he can’t afford to get in Treliving’s way. - Canada Cup
Kinda agree here. Sounds like expected corporate behavior. If there was gonna be a red wedding, Shanahan would have been fired at the same time as Keefe.
So, I am going to nominate a few coaching candidates from off the board : Wendel Clark? Doug Gilmour? Some other smart and respected Leafs alum? Or, wild one here, Mike Keenan?
Or, some recently retired and respected player like Marty St. Louis in Montreal?
I'm not sure just plugging in another retread is going to suffice. The same half dozen names keep getting thrown around. I hope the Leafs go off the board.
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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I'd like to see Sullivan in TOR. He would probably ruin your PP like he has in PIT, but I think they would be fun to watch at ES at least. - jfkst1
Dude, the powerplay was clicking at 4-5% in these playoffs.
I had no idea it was possible for professional hockey players to be that bad on the powerplay. You think Sullivan could ruin it? |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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True. Habs powerplay coach Alex Burrows manages to do just that.
- Scabeh
I want YOU to be our next powerplay coach Scabeh.
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underhill14
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Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool Joined: 06.02.2010
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So remind me what happened to all the "TITS" guys in here...you 'member Trust in the Shannaplan???
You fickle female genitalias!
But moving on, what Fake just posted is spot on. Keefe should've been gone so they could assess the team without that coach before now. |
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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Leafs already missed out on Travis Green - Reubenkincade
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Azuredoom
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Joined: 01.14.2019
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Marner ruined Mike Babcocks career |
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Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool Joined: 06.02.2010
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Kinda agree here. Sounds like expected corporate behavior. If there was gonna be a red wedding, Shanahan would have been fired at the same time as Keefe.
So, I am going to nominate a few coaching candidates from off the board : Wendel Clark? Doug Gilmour? Some other smart and respected Leafs alum? Or, wild one here, Mike Keenan?
Or, some recently retired and respected player like Marty St. Louis in Montreal?
I'm not sure just plugging in another retread is going to suffice. The same half dozen names keep getting thrown around. I hope the Leafs go off the board. - GalacticStone
Disagree Galactic. Respectfully.
I think the Leafs need a PROVEN guy. No more (frank)ing around. Get a guy that can coach the talent and the heavy playoff style game.
It's why Quennville's name keeps getting brought up, sucks that there is an issue, but he's the exact type of experience the Leafs need behind the bench.
A couple solid moves on D and solidify the G. Then coach the (frank) out of this squad. |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Kinda agree here. Sounds like expected corporate behavior. If there was gonna be a red wedding, Shanahan would have been fired at the same time as Keefe.
So, I am going to nominate a few coaching candidates from off the board : Wendel Clark? Doug Gilmour? Some other smart and respected Leafs alum? Or, wild one here, Mike Keenan?
Or, some recently retired and respected player like Marty St. Louis in Montreal?
I'm not sure just plugging in another retread is going to suffice. The same half dozen names keep getting thrown around. I hope the Leafs go off the board. - GalacticStone
They either hire Berube today and announce him tomorrow or wait and see if the Bod becomes available |
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Azuredoom
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.14.2019
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Kinda agree here. Sounds like expected corporate behavior. If there was gonna be a red wedding, Shanahan would have been fired at the same time as Keefe.
So, I am going to nominate a few coaching candidates from off the board : Wendel Clark? Doug Gilmour? Some other smart and respected Leafs alum? Or, wild one here, Mike Keenan?
Or, some recently retired and respected player like Marty St. Louis in Montreal?
I'm not sure just plugging in another retread is going to suffice. The same half dozen names keep getting thrown around. I hope the Leafs go off the board. - GalacticStone
How about you guys fire Cooper and hire one of those guys... We will take Cooper |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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They either hire Berube today and announce him tomorrow or wait and see if the Bod becomes available - Canada Cup
Yay Rod can use the Leafs as leverage to get more out of Carolina....then all the good coaches will be gone and the Leafs can hire Jay Woodcroft.
Everyone wins. |
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GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: U Jealous of my Meteor Joined: 01.29.2013
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Disagree Galactic. Respectfully.
I think the Leafs need a PROVEN guy. No more (frank)ing around. Get a guy that can coach the talent and the heavy playoff style game.
It's why Quennville's name keeps getting brought up, sucks that there is an issue, but he's the exact type of experience the Leafs need behind the bench.
A couple solid moves on D and solidify the G. Then coach the (frank) out of this squad. - underhill14
I don't know enough hard facts about the Quenneville issue to speak on it. I know the basic gist of it and what the optics are, but my personal feelings about it are undetermined at the moment. I lean against it, just based on the optics and the basic facts that I do know. If it can be determined that he was not involved and had no specific knowledge, then the optics still remain. It's a shame, because he's a good coach, as you said.
I like Brindamour, but I don't think he's going to be easy to get.
How about Barry Melrose or Mike Milbury? |
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GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: U Jealous of my Meteor Joined: 01.29.2013
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How about you guys fire Cooper and hire one of those guys... We will take Cooper - Azuredoom
Cooper is a total douchebag, but he's a good coach. I think Tampa could do a lot worse. It would be interesting to see what Cooper could do with this Leafs roster. |
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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Marner ruined Mike Babcocks career - Azuredoom
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Pretty sweet that Keefe gets to rake in the dough for doing nothing over the next 2 years while he figures out his next steps
Bring back Iron Mike - TheMussel
I haven't read the articles, but what they usually do is kick the guy upstairs as a "special advisor."
That way, if he accepts a new coaching contract, he has to quit (and MLSE can stop paying him). |
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Snot Dillingham
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Ontario, ON Joined: 07.14.2023
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Maybe its time to bring in Mark Carney too?
Get all the imminent changes done at once. |
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Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Fredericton, N.B. Joined: 12.18.2013
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The Leafs needed to fire Keefe before this past season.
They needed to see whether or not the "core" could look any different under a different coach/different culture. Then, they could make a more educated decision on
Marner.
Now, they are in a situation where he may simply refuse a trade, or he agrees to a few teams and the Leafs get nowhere near his value in return because he has 1 year until UFA, or he walks for nothing at the end of next season, or they end up over-paying him, which might be the worst result of all.
This is the reason Shanahan should also be gone. There is no "Shanaplan". - Aetherial
If he agrees to a "few" teams they'll most likely be top contenders with no desire to add him to their line up. A cool way of saying "I'm not moving" |
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Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB Joined: 07.04.2006
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GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning |
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Location: U Jealous of my Meteor Joined: 01.29.2013
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Marner holds all the cards.
If management doesn't want him, that sucks for everybody. But, if his teammates like him and he has the support of the locker room, then he has more leverage. It would be different if the guy was locker room poison and everybody hated him or wanted him gone also. If his fellow players like him, like playing with him, and think the team is better for having him, then he can stay and there isn't poop management can say about it without going hard and being Richards - which is bad for other reasons.
Either he agrees or he doesn't. Management isn't going to "run him out" unless he wants to be run out. |
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