Anyone think they will move Shanahan to another position (ie. fluffy advisor role) tomorrow?

Face saving way to Shanacan him.

For example, Special Advisor to the Zamboni driver.
- Garfield512

Sr Vice President of Shushi

Yay a guy has been unable to last more than 3 seasons on a team in 4 attempts!
- Santo_44

Berube had one good run, Gallant has been better over his career.

https://records.nhl.com/coaches/craig-berube-146

Im ok with this-

https://twitter.com/Leafs...tatus/1788613975070081366

I heard he is one of those up and coming coaches. Great winning pedigree.
- Glak18

He does have a great winning pedigree... In the regular season

Ottawa can't be picky though, even making the playoffs would be impressive

Berube had one good run, Gallant has been better over his career.

https://records.nhl.com/coaches/craig-berube-146
- Archaic

I don't want a coach that never lasts where he goes.

Tells me he gets stale very fast with players.

No thank you.

I think that looking back, signing Tavares was a mistake, but there isn't a single guy here who hated it at the time of the signing.
- Atomic Wedgie

He did this so therefore...

Most importantly, he stopped MLSE from continuously sacrificing long-term progress with short-term, reactive moves - something this franking team has been doing for 60 years.

...this is exactly what he did.

Tavares was the sacrificing of long term progress with a short-term, reactive move which had cascading negative consequences.

Not to mention all the 1st round picks they started throwing away for "veterans" who did nothing and cost the Leafs the ability to continue to keep 1st round picks and develop depth players.

The process they followed to acquire elite talent was correct but almost everything they did after that was a total failure. They wasted the first 5 years of "tank and draft high" with the decisions they made over the next 5 years. Ultimately, it's 10 years of failure under Shanahan.

I actually like what Shanahan has done over the years.

He purposely tanked the team - something nobody in Toronto had the guts to do for 50 years.

He held onto draft picks, which turned into the most talent this team has seen in years.

And he acquired top end talent. I think that looking back, signing Tavares was a mistake, but there isn't a single guy here who hated it at the time of the signing.

Most importantly, he stopped MLSE from continuously sacrificing long-term progress with short-term, reactive moves - something this franking team has been doing for 60 years.

We didn't get the results we wanted.

But I still like the process we followed.
- Atomic Wedgie

Is this sarcasm?

Uh, over the years they have given up a boatload of picks.
What top-end talent, aside from Tavares. Other than that, they got aging vets at the deadline for futures... and the deadline pickups accomplished nothing.

They abandoned the plan the moment they opened the vault for Tavares.

- Rare_Jewel

At the end of the day its just a game.

Don't bring poop human being into a game.

My gawd.
You never had a spat with a teammate you're close with during a pressure game?
Jesus, quit reading into a little tiff.
- Fakepartofme

Not sure why people had such a reaction to the cameras catching some frustration between some players.

At the end of the day its just a game.

Don't bring poop human being into a game.
- Santo_44

But he isn't though.

Deserves a 2nd chance.

And there is absolutely no doubt he is the best qualified person to do the job.

Former Leafs player, from the area and a 3 time Cup champion.

Not sure why people had such a reaction to the cameras catching some frustration between some players.
- Aetherial

If they had no reaction, they'd have no passion, no fight, no drive.

If they have a reaction, they're weak, whining, frustrated.

There is no appeasing the mob of idiots.

Yeah but he isn't though.

Deserves a 2nd chance.

And there is absolutely no doubt he is the best qualified person to do the job.

Former Leafs player, from the area and a 3 time Cup champion.


- Rare_Jewel

He did something really horrible. He has made a lot of money coaching and he is not in need of work.

No sense giving him a 2nd chance, let him be a better person in every day life...His time in the NHL is forever gone and for good reason. He (frank)ed up.

I don't mean to brag but I've done a marvelous job coaching my son's under 11 team this year.
- Scabeh

Name your price!

He did something really horrible. He has made a lot of money coaching and he is not in need of work.

No sense giving him a 2nd chance, let him be a better person in every day life...His time in the NHL is forever gone and for good reason. He (frank)ed up.
- Santo_44

Not really something unforgiveable.

Absolutely a lot of sense in a 2nd chance.

Wild looking to move Gustafson and Rossi.

They have one more year of 14M tied up into praise and Suter.

Once Marners SB is given I wonder if it’s possible for a team like Chicago to retain half his cap hit.

Minny could afford him this year and then sign him to whatever he wants.

Not really something unforgiveable.

Absolutely a lot of sense in a 2nd chance.
- Rare_Jewel

It’s just a game, give him a 2nd chance in real life absolutely.

But a 2nd chance doesn’t mean give him millions of dollars to work for a high end organization in the NHL.

His time is up in the NHL, it’s really that simple.

Wild looking to move Gustafson and Rossi.

They have one more year of 14M tied up into praise and Suter.

Once Marners SB is given I wonder if it’s possible for a team like Chicago to retain half his cap hit.

Minny could afford him this year and then sign him to whatever he wants.
- Santo_44

That's not how you spell Tavares.

It’s just a game, give him a 2nd chance in real life absolutely.

But a 2nd chance doesn’t mean give him millions of dollars to work for a high end organization in the NHL.

His time is up in the NHL, it’s really that simple.
- Santo_44

Rick Tocchet shouldn't be in the NHL, right?

But he is.

2nd chances.

Rick Tocchet shouldn't be in the NHL, right?

But he is.

2nd chances.
- Rare_Jewel

You're really comparing gambling to knowledge of rape and doing nothing about it?

Not really something unforgiveable.

Absolutely a lot of sense in a 2nd chance.


- Rare_Jewel

He either knew about his video coach raping young men and actively encouraged people to cover it up to facilitate a playoff run- which is utterly despicable -

or…

He ignored it for said purposes of hockey which is even worse -

Either way he’s finished as a coach in hockey at any and all levels - totally radioactive -

Hope it was worth it Q - You complete scumbag.

Wild looking to move Gustafson and Rossi.

They have one more year of 14M tied up into praise and Suter.

Once Marners SB is given I wonder if it’s possible for a team like Chicago to retain half his cap hit.

Minny could afford him this year and then sign him to whatever he wants.
- Santo_44

Can't believe those deals are still going...

Not sure why people had such a reaction to the cameras catching some frustration between some players.
- Aetherial

Because it’s Toronto. We’ve seen it numerous times in Pittsburg but it’s good when they do it. Or if MacKinnon does it it’s great leadership.

I hate the Toronto media.

Rick Tocchet shouldn't be in the NHL, right?

But he is.

2nd chances.
- Rare_Jewel

What? Not even close to the same thing.

Go away, seems like you have some soul searching yourself.

You're really comparing gambling to knowledge of rape and doing nothing about it?
- Whipper

Ever look up what Craig MacTavish did. Given a 2nd chance. Then a career as a coach, executive, TV analyst. Seems worse than Q...