My passions/hobbies are guitar, gardening, golf, canoe tripping with family, and running/working out.

I've been a Leaf fan since the late 70s. My idea of being a sports fan is informed by also being Liverpool FC supporter. LFC fans simply do not accept the poop that's gone on with this Leaf team. Neither do Yankee fans, Real Madrid,etc. A segment of theeafs fanbase has accepted and embraced losing. I can and will not do that. If you don't like my opinions, don't read them.
- fifty__missions

Side note, if you don't like people's opinions differing with yours you can just not read them. Instead you resort to name calling. Kind of hypocritical of you to tell others to not read them when you yourself wont.

How much does Zadorov cost?

4.5M?
- Santo_44

Plus a 3rd and a 5th but Leafs missed that boat again.

As a UFA he'll be over $5m maybe $6m.

Would've been easier to acquire him and then extend him cheaper before this playoff run. And the way he has been in the Vancouver press, loves it there/family/fans, doubt they let him walk.

Too bad Treliving didn't listen to me and a few other guys on here in January.

But why make yourself miserable? So you can be right 50% of the time on the internet? Sounds like a lot of misery for literal HOURS upon HOURS a year for a few fleeting moments of "got em".
- Aaron_85

I'm here a lot less than a lot of you guys, to be fair. I guess my opinions "stick out" when I'm here.

But why make yourself miserable? So you can be right 50% of the time on the internet? Sounds like a lot of misery for literal HOURS upon HOURS a year for a few fleeting moments of "got em".
- Aaron_85

He's not making himself miserable, the same as I'm not when it comes to the Leafs....the management and team are doing that for us.

The obviously dumb poop this team does and continually tries to keep doing in the face of ZERO success is mind blowing at times, add the fans posts in here supporting those same dumb moves

Plus a 3rd and a 5th but Leafs missed that boat again.

As a UFA he'll be over $5m maybe $6m.

Would've been easier to acquire him and then extend him cheaper before this playoff run. And the way he has been in the Vancouver press, loves it there/family/fans, doubt they let him walk.

Too bad Treliving didn't listen to me and a few other guys on here in January.
- underhill14

I don't know 5 or 6M is kind of crazy.

Like yes he has value but he won't get paid that much with the mins he plays.

I really don't think Zadorov gives a (frank) where he plays, he will follow the money and opportunity to win.

VAN likely can't afford him they have so many UFA and RFAs.

He 100% knows Tre will back up the money truck for him.

I don't know 5 or 6M is kind of crazy.

Like yes he has value but he won't get paid that much with the mins he plays.

I really don't think Zadorov gives a (frank) where he plays, he will follow the money and opportunity to win.

VAN likely can't afford him they have so many UFA and RFAs.

He 100% knows Tre will back up the money truck for him.
- Santo_44

Hope both of those statements are true, just not too much $ in the truck. Can't forget the Leafs will probably run back the Core 4 yet again.

Hope both of those statements are true, just not too much $ in the truck. Can't forget the Leafs will probably run back the Core 4 yet again.
- underhill14

Leafs have space.

Plus I think Marner is so gone, I don't think there is much of a chance he is back and until that gets proved wrong I will operate on the fact he won't be here next season.

Leafs have space.

Plus I think Marner is so gone, I don't think there is much of a chance he is back and until that gets proved wrong I will operate on the fact he won't be here next season.
- Santo_44

I agree. There have been multiple observers, including Ray Ferraro, who said that Marner basically looked miserable all season. I think he might have had enough and not want to face what's coming next season if he doesn't agree to a move.

Leafs have space.

Plus I think Marner is so gone, I don't think there is much of a chance he is back and until that gets proved wrong I will operate on the fact he won't be here next season.
- Santo_44

I like everything your saying today Santo!

Wtf is going on?!?!?!

You know what would be hilarious.

Binnington as a Leaf.

I like everything your saying today Santo!

Wtf is going on?!?!?!



- underhill14

The stars have aligned.



Marner is likely going to have success somewhere else, probably playoff success too.

But it is irrelevant to the Leafs. He can't handle it here and he dug himself a hole mentally.

The 2018-2019 playoff Marner where he blocked that shot from the Bruins is gone, and likely gets revived by another city.

I agree. There have been multiple observers, including Ray Ferraro, who said that Marner basically looked miserable all season. I think he might have had enough and not want to face what's coming next season if he doesn't agree to a move.
- fifty__missions

if management wants to do it I agree, they both move on.

You know what would be hilarious.

Binnington as a Leaf.
- Santo_44

It would be sad.

The stars have aligned.



Marner is likely going to have success somewhere else, probably playoff success too.

But it is irrelevant to the Leafs. He can't handle it here and he dug himself a hole mentally.

The 2018-2019 playoff Marner where he blocked that shot from the Bruins is gone, and likely gets revived by another city.
- Santo_44

So much this.

How much does Zadorov cost?

4.5M?
- Santo_44

Considering the playoffs he's having, someone will pay a lot more.

It would be sad.
- mjones242

I'd like it better than adding a Sammy, Stolarz, below average goalie, below average goalie.

I get the wanting to go cheap route, its been my philosophy the past 5 years but I think I was wrong. Expecting to catch lightning in a bottle with a meh goalie is unlikely and we have run out of time here.

Get a GOOD goalie to pair with Woll. A legit one.

Considering the playoffs he's having, someone will pay a lot more.
- Whipper

I'd like to know the highest a D has been played an average of 17-18 mins the last 3 seasons.

Don't think he will get paid like Pesce, Montour, Skiej...I think that would be a bit ridiculous.

How much does Zadorov cost?

4.5M?
- Santo_44

29 year old rd/ld
Probably starts with a minimum of 5.5 - 6 per

At least a 6 i think. Having a good playoffs

Marner and a plate of zucchini pasta for Nichushkin 40% retained, Toews and 1st 2024

I'd like to know the highest a D has been played an average of 17-18 mins the last 3 seasons.

Don't think he will get paid like Pesce, Montour, Skiej...I think that would be a bit ridiculous.
- Santo_44

I'd say low end is 4.5M (Manson, Chariot, Graves ...)
and high end is 5.75 (Gavrikov, Forsling). I don't think any team goes to $6 with him but crazier things have happened.

..or he could find another Holland and do whatever Nurse did to get almost twice what he's worth.

Marner and a plate of zucchini pasta for Nichushkin 40% retained, Toews and 1st 2024
- AdamFrench

His next suspension is a year, not taking that risk.

His next suspension is a year, not taking that risk.
- Whipper

Does the team get cap relief if he’s suspended? Just curious.

Does the team get cap relief if he’s suspended? Just curious.
- Cush29

Yes.

But if he is back in November you have to go into the season with the space available.

I think he gets bought out.

Then teams will spend the amount they are comfortable with.

I'd say low end is 4.5M (Manson, Chariot, Graves ...)
and high end is 5.75 (Gavrikov, Forsling). I don't think any team goes to $6 with him but crazier things have happened.

..or he could find another Holland and do whatever Nurse did to get almost twice what he's worth.
- The Law

All the guys you mention do play 20 - 22 minutes / game. Zadorov played 16 - 18 on average over the past 3 years. The highest paid guy I can think of with those parameters is Zaitsev @ $4.5m and that contract was a massive mistake. Noting that when Zaitsev was given his deal he was playing 22 minutes.

For the most part Zadorov is deployed similarly to Schenn, and while Schenn is older, the deployment of him hasn't exceed 18 minutes of TOI on average since 2017 (18:03).

All the guys you mention do play 20 - 22 minutes / game. Zadorov played 16 - 18 on average over the past 3 years. The highest paid guy I can think of with those parameters is Zaitsev @ $4.5m and that contract was a massive mistake. Noting that when Zaitsev was given his deal he was playing 22 minutes.

For the most part Zadorov is deployed similarly to Schenn, and while Schenn is older, the deployment of him hasn't exceed 18 minutes of TOI on average since 2017 (18:03).
- Monkeypunk

But zaitsevs deal is 6 years old or so