really want the flyers to get another mid rd pick and draft Connelly if still on the board.

he does run the show open your eyes
- hello it's me 2050

🤣 🤡

Because he doesn't run the show. He has inputs into the show which every experience coach would have, but ultimately DB makes the call.
- jd250

So naive.

really want the flyers to get another mid rd pick and draft Connelly if still on the board.
- hello it's me 2050

I was actually thinking i wonder if he gets to the Florida pick. I saw somewhere some teams have him off their boards in 1st round. Could be just smoke screen stuff. I would take a chance on him after the 12 pick.

Saw and article talking about Buffalo and Montreal maybe would look to move picks to get NHL help.

Montreal I know wants to get out of the Anderson deal. Would you take that one to get the 5 OA.

To MON: Farabee, FLA 2024 1st
To Philly: 2024 1st(5OA), Anderson, maybe something else?

Money would work since bother are about the same. Anderson has 3 more years but I would rather him in the lineup over Deslaurier who I think should be sent to Lehigh.

This might not work but the jist is they need to be creative.

At 5 and 12 you could get two top end building blocks.
- J35Bacher

Montreal is up against the cap and they should be desperate to shed cap. Anderson’s 5.5 is an albatross. Laughton and Florida’s pick in exchange for Anderson and the 5th OA might even be a possibility. With Ellis and Johansen on LTIR as possibilities, going over the cap shouldn’t be a problem for the Flyers and their cap space, short of resigning a couple RFAs is immaterial for another couple years. Couple this with finding some sucker to take RR for perhaps an old used pick bag and now we’re talking. Utah might want to make a splash and add some veterans in exchange for some draft capital or prospects so GMDB should be on the phone dangling TK, Couts and even Sanheim (who wouldn’t waive their NTC to live in Salt Lake City?!). But all of these fantasy moves might be possibly in NHL’24 but the Flyers are not aggressive enough to think big, trade big, and make a series of moves to legitimately do a rebuild. So, in conclusion, what’s most likely is:
Flyers draft 12 & 28-32nd;
Resign TK
Keep Laughton because he’s good in the room
Spend what cap they have on some overpriced UFA for 6-7 years
Be a bubble team for years to come and either get bounced round 1 or pick 12 every year.

Because he doesn't run the show. He has inputs into the show which every experience coach would have, but ultimately DB makes the call.
- jd250

lol of course you would believe this

So naive.
- Tomahawk

No .. IMO it's that you and others are just so jaded you can't see past your nose. Its complete nonsense to think Torts runs the show here. Sure, Torts wants to build a team and win ASAP, and sure Torts would balk at the idea of the team taking a step back next year and playing more younger players. However, if Jones and Briere are true to their word and were being genuine when they said several times throughout the year that they can see this Flyers team is still a long ways off, they must do the right thing and make some hard choices this off season. If they don't it's on them, not Torts. Torts has input but he does not run things and it's just stupid to think otherwise.

lol of course you would believe this
- corduroy

OK, show me evidence to the contrary.

Montreal is up against the cap and they should be desperate to shed cap. Anderson’s 5.5 is an albatross. Laughton and Florida’s pick in exchange for Anderson and the 5th OA might even be a possibility. With Ellis and Johansen on LTIR as possibilities, going over the cap shouldn’t be a problem for the Flyers and their cap space, short of resigning a couple RFAs is immaterial for another couple years. Couple this with finding some sucker to take RR for perhaps an old used pick bag and now we’re talking. Utah might want to make a splash and add some veterans in exchange for some draft capital or prospects so GMDB should be on the phone dangling TK, Couts and even Sanheim (who wouldn’t waive their NTC to live in Salt Lake City?!). But all of these fantasy moves might be possibly in NHL’24 but the Flyers are not aggressive enough to think big, trade big, and make a series of moves to legitimately do a rebuild. So, in conclusion, what’s most likely is:
Flyers draft 12 & 28-32nd;
Resign TK
Keep Laughton because he’s good in the room
Spend what cap they have on some overpriced UFA for 6-7 years
Be a bubble team for years to come and either get bounced round 1 or pick 12 every year.
- mikeyo27

According to Capfriendly the Habs will have $9mil in cap space going into next year. They really don't have anyone to resign. Not sure they will be that motivated to move Andersson.

OK, show me evidence to the contrary.
- jd250

We are going to play the kids - did not happen
seeler extension
rp extension
hathaways ice-time
atkinson dressing in 70 games - anyone can see that he is cooked
nd playing in 60 games - more than brink
sl not traded
ej trade

torts wanted drysdale
db should have stepped in and told torts to stop with the head games with frost
If db was in charge nd would have been waived - atkinson, stall as well


torts would not have had a choice but to play the kids

but you go on believing that all he does is coach the team

As I listen to opinions from the various Flyers podcasts, it seems most believe the Flyers must make the playoffs next season to move another step forward with this rebuild. I don't agree. I think if DB and Jones are serious about a rebuild, it's quite possible the team takes a step back next year. But this will only happen if the team is willing to part with more veteran players and give more younger players consistent minutes to continue to develop. I love TK but if his salary demands are higher than the Flyers want to pay and there is a chance to get assets and a younger player with the potential to be a 1C or 1D in return, I would trade TK. But I would also look to trade players like Laughton and Farabee. Given the cap space issues the Flyers currently have, they will have to buy out Atkinson. The Flyers have to put off making the playoffs next season as a priority, and continue to get younger and open up roster spots for young player to develop. If the Flyers instead go after veterans to improve the PP for example, all it does is stagnate the rebuild because they will be stuck in middling land, not bad enough to land a elite talent player and not good enough to make a serious run for the Cup. DB has got to start parting with more veteran players and commit to a rebuild. Without a true 1C and 1D, this Flyers team is going no where, Michkov or no Michkov.
- jd250

I agree with most of what you posted here.

On an unrelated note. Where are your comments on the Bruins game last night. How the weak and soft Charli McAvoy was dominant last night and carried his team to a victory in a must win elimination game?

No .. IMO it's that you and others are just so jaded you can't see past your nose. Its complete nonsense to think Torts runs the show here. Sure, Torts wants to build a team and win ASAP, and sure Torts would balk at the idea of the team taking a step back next year and playing more younger players. However, if Jones and Briere are true to their word and were being genuine when they said several times throughout the year that they can see this Flyers team is still a long ways off, they must do the right thing and make some hard choices this off season. If they don't it's on them, not Torts. Torts has input but he does not run things and it's just stupid to think otherwise.
- jd250

No, Tortorella pretty much runs the show. He has the greatest influence and he has Jones and Hilferty in his back pocket. Of course you are blind to that just like you've always been blind to the Flyers situation. With Fletcher etc. You're just a hopeless optimist who lacks the ability to see reality. I told you what Fletcher did was not going to work and I'm telling you now. The Flyers will go nowhere with Tortorella involved.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...e3-Buzzcast-At-3/1/125299

lol

No .. IMO it's that you and others are just so jaded you can't see past your nose. Its complete nonsense to think Torts runs the show here. Sure, Torts wants to build a team and win ASAP, and sure Torts would balk at the idea of the team taking a step back next year and playing more younger players. However, if Jones and Briere are true to their word and were being genuine when they said several times throughout the year that they can see this Flyers team is still a long ways off, they must do the right thing and make some hard choices this off season. If they don't it's on them, not Torts. Torts has input but he does not run things and it's just stupid to think otherwise.
- jd250

Yeah, Torts isn't really in charge... it's just coincidence that the future of the team is centered on his preferred philosophy, just coincidence that all the players he doesn't like get cast out and he reports directly to Hilferty because they both like to sit around and talk about dogs.

Yeah, Torts isn't really in charge... it's just coincidence that the future of the team is centered on his preferred philosophy, all the players he doesn't like get cast out and he reports directly to Hilferty because they both like to sit around and talk about dogs.


- Tomahawk

Curious why you're a Flyers fan. You seem to have such disdain for them. From what I can tell you're too young to remember the cup years and you're not from the area. Why voluntarily put yourself through this?

Why voluntarily put yourself through this?
- Dkos

I often wonder this myself.

Looking at this team DB needs to do a buyout of atkinson & trade ND for anything. Take away torts toys and he has to play the kids or you fire him. Enough running vets out until there used up in december and then you start playing the kids.

I actually like Hathaways game but he is trade candidate.
Laughton, TK, and even Farabee if the offer is solid.
Sanheim, York if the offer is solid.


All can be traded just need to get good assets back not veterans on long term contracts.

I often wonder this myself.
- Tomahawk

Seems like a fun time to jump over to the Blackhawks.

Seems like a fun time to jump over to the Blackhawks.
- Dkos

I'd sooner stick my Richard in a wood chipper

Curious why you're a Flyers fan. You seem to have such disdain for them. From what I can tell you're too young to remember the cup years and you're not from the area. Why voluntarily put yourself through this?
- Dkos

I often wonder, and not just based on your comments and not just directed at you but why some think as a fan, you're not entitled to be critical. Can't have disdain for team if you're a fan. I personally used to be accused of rubber stamping everything the team did. Now I get the opposite. I think as a Flyers fan, can't help but to have disdain. Unless you just have your head in the sand and are in complete denial. They're literally infected with incompetence and have been disastrous for over a decade. Meanwhile they install a triumvirate hierarchy and hire their TV color guy with no experience to go with an inexperienced GM and an archaic head coach who is really running the show.

Because he doesn't run the show. He has inputs into the show which every experience coach would have, but ultimately DB makes the call.
- jd250

You really believe that? Even when the Pres refers to them as the triumverate?

So if Torts had outstanding PPs in TB, NYR who gets credit for that? The players? & the Fact that Zero offensive talent here in Philly Torts is to blame? 🤣 🤡
- Fopa21

Torts is to blame: https://www.1stohiobatter...ge-power-play-percentages

Torts is to blame: https://www.1stohiobatter...ge-power-play-percentages
- Flyfly

Mike Sullivan in NY.

According to Capfriendly the Habs will have $9mil in cap space going into next year. They really don't have anyone to resign. Not sure they will be that motivated to move Andersson.
- mickel25

Well then I stand corrected. Eating Andersons salary ain’t gonna be all that valuable then.

they are a laughingstock, that is what you and others do not get.

for phucks sake there is no fn rebuild.

they will not make the playoffs and have less point than this year is my early prediciton.
- hello it's me 2050

To be fair…. While I agree I’m definitely not seeing a rebuild to this point they still can go down that path. What they do with tk imo is the biggest sign of the direction.