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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: What Changes Are Going To Be Made? – Part I (John Tavares)
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Rare_Jewel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 05.31.2021

May 15 @ 5:44 PM ET
Not true at all.
there's no excuses this time around and they FAILED
we're just saying there is more to it.

- dmnted


They failed?

So trade them all. They all failed.

Start over.
Whipper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: GalacticStone made avi, AB
Joined: 07.04.2006

May 15 @ 6:00 PM ET
Matthews needed to get that 70. And he got it. 69 + 1.
- Rare_Jewel

69>70

Nice!
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

May 15 @ 6:13 PM ET
The captaincy needs to go to Matthew’s! Period. Nothing to do with Taveres, doesn’t disrespect him or anything like that! Team needs a change, Matthew’s has a new contract kicking in, JT is on his way out, time to change the guard! Respect needs to be paid to the new guard not the, on their way out, guard.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

May 15 @ 6:17 PM ET
Run it Back to the Future
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 15 @ 6:19 PM ET
The captaincy needs to go to Matthew’s! Period. Nothing to do with Taveres, doesn’t disrespect him or anything like that! Team needs a change, Matthew’s has a new contract kicking in, JT is on his way out, time to change the guard! Respect needs to be paid to the new guard not the, on their way out, guard.
- Bullot

Meh.
Id give it to morgan if hes sticking around.
Matthews only has 4 years left.
Not interested in giving it to him.
13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 15 @ 6:20 PM ET
Per David Pagnotta

One player Maple Leafs have already expressed interest in re-signing is top-six forward Tyler Bertuzzi, who is eligible to become UFAs July 1.

....

Though not yet confirmed, the Leafs are also speculated to have expressed the same interest in keeping forward Max Domi,

....

TFP’s David Pagnotta contributed to this report.
- Santo_44



If true ...then they're planning for one of the core4 to be off the books. Would be impossible to run it back and sign Bert and Domi, a goalie and improve the blue line.

- The Law

I wouldn't mind that move
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 15 @ 6:28 PM ET
Meh.
Id give it to morgan if hes sticking around.
Matthews only has 4 years left.
Not interested in giving it to him.

- Fakepartofme


Nah, not even him. He only has two years on a M-NTC extra. Give it to Willy. He’s even popular on the TTC.
sokosteve
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Gwangyang
Joined: 06.24.2018

May 15 @ 6:32 PM ET
Marner and JT likely stay because it is what it is, but Tree has to be careful next summer.

Maybe give the brass something they can understand...

He'll only come out with fright
For a screened and crummy snipe
Nothing is new
I've seen him here before
Switching and baiting
Ooh, he’s fitted in blue, but his eyes are on the score

So many have paid to see what they think is bringing glee
A bit of a man-child, a Debrincat shamed with the tag of an anchor
Money's the matter
If you're in it for clutch, you ain't gonna get too far

(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Watch out, Brad, he'll chew it up
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
He's a cap-eater
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Watch out, Brad, he'll chew it up
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
He's a cap-eater

I wouldn't if I were you
I’ve seen what he can’t do
No parade plan
He can’t really set the team apart
Results over blabber
Ooh, the façade is there, but a fleece is at the heart

(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Watch out, Brad, he'll chew it up
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
He's a cap-eater
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Watch out, Brad, he'll chew it up
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
He's a cap-eater

(Oh-oh, here she comes)
Here he comes, watch out, Brad, he'll chew it up
(Whoa-oh, here he comes, hands out)
He’s a cap-eater
(Oh-oh, here he comes, he's a cap-eater)
Ooh, he'll chew it up
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Here he comes, he's a cap-eater
(Oh-oh, here he comes, hands out)
He'll only make it too tight, ooh
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Here he comes, he's a cap-eater
(Oh-oh, here he comes, he's a cap-eater)
That’s Paul’s child, woo
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Here he comes, watch out, Brad, watch out, Brad
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Oh, washed out, washed out, washed out, washed out
(Oh-oh, here he comes, watch out)
Yeah, yeah, he's a cap-eater
(Oh-oh, here he comes, he's a cap-eater)
He's switching and baiting, ooh
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Oh, he's a cap-eater
mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

May 15 @ 6:34 PM ET
Per David Pagnotta

One player Maple Leafs have already expressed interest in re-signing is top-six forward Tyler Bertuzzi, who is eligible to become UFAs July 1.

....

Though not yet confirmed, the Leafs are also speculated to have expressed the same interest in keeping forward Max Domi,

....

TFP’s David Pagnotta contributed to this report.
- Santo_44



If true ...then they're planning for one of the core4 to be off the books. Would be impossible to run it back and sign Bert and Domi, a goalie and improve the blue line.

- The Law

Brodie, Gio, and Samsonov are all off the books which provides ~10M or so.

Which is to say, I think the Leafs could re-sign Bert and Domi and squeeze together the other missing pieces in an effort to ride out the Snake contract this year and re-sign Mitch in the off-season.

Having said that, I would happy to pull the trigger oin any Marner deal. Yes, please.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

May 15 @ 6:42 PM ET
Wow this place never fails to entertain.

Finkel is Einhorn
Einhorn is Finkel

I’m getting that same vibe from 2 posters here. A lot of it being what I’ll politely call “the insane style of posting” and the constant “Marner has more playoff points than anyone else” drum they best on ignoring the specifics of that fact when a deeper dive is done and shared by others.

🤔 Alt alert?!🚨 ‼️

JT isn’t getting traded, he will re-sign after next year at a team friendly amount to retire a Leaf.

Talking about him being traded to Barfllo or back to the Island is just a pathetic attempt to shift the focus off of Marner.

Doesn’t matter how much logic goes into the replies none of it resonates with some.

Marner should be moved if possible but he probably won’t agree to it so he won’t be moved.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

May 15 @ 6:42 PM ET
Marner and JT likely stay because it is what it is, but Tree has to be careful next summer.

Maybe give the brass something they can understand...

He'll only come out with fright
For a screened and crummy snipe
Nothing is new
I've seen him here before
Switching and baiting
Ooh, he’s fitted in blue, but his eyes are on the score

So many have paid to see what they think is bringing glee
A bit of a man-child, a Debrincat shamed with the tag of an anchor
Money's the matter
If you're in it for clutch, you ain't gonna get too far

(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Watch out, Brad, he'll chew it up
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
He's a cap-eater
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Watch out, Brad, he'll chew it up
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
He's a cap-eater

I wouldn't if I were you
I’ve seen what he can’t do
No parade plan
He can’t really set the team apart
Results over blabber
Ooh, the façade is there, but a fleece is at the heart

(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Watch out, Brad, he'll chew it up
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
He's a cap-eater
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Watch out, Brad, he'll chew it up
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
He's a cap-eater

(Oh-oh, here she comes)
Here he comes, watch out, Brad, he'll chew it up
(Whoa-oh, here he comes, hands out)
He’s a cap-eater
(Oh-oh, here he comes, he's a cap-eater)
Ooh, he'll chew it up
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Here he comes, he's a cap-eater
(Oh-oh, here he comes, hands out)
He'll only make it too tight, ooh
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Here he comes, he's a cap-eater
(Oh-oh, here he comes, he's a cap-eater)
That’s Paul’s child, woo
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Here he comes, watch out, Brad, watch out, Brad
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Oh, washed out, washed out, washed out, washed out
(Oh-oh, here he comes, watch out)
Yeah, yeah, he's a cap-eater
(Oh-oh, here he comes, he's a cap-eater)
He's switching and baiting, ooh
(Oh-oh, here he comes)
Oh, he's a cap-eater

- sokosteve


🤣golf clap for this.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

May 15 @ 6:43 PM ET
I don't see any Marner trade out there.

Someone tell me some options. Unless he goes to DAL, VGK, FLA, TBL to take pay cut because of state tax - there are VERY limited teams that will give him 11m+. I don't see him leaving Toronto to take a pay cut. What a horrible situation for Treliving to deal with
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 15 @ 6:45 PM ET
Brodie, Gio, and Samsonov are all off the books which provides ~10M or so.

Which is to say, I think the Leafs could re-sign Bert and Domi and squeeze together the other missing pieces in an effort to ride out the Snake contract this year and re-sign Mitch in the off-season.

Having said that, I would happy to pull the trigger oin any Marner deal. Yes, please.

- mjones242


The Shanaplan is dead. Brendan ate that poopt sandwich last Friday. Hilarious to watch guys like Steve Simmons repeatedly dropping the big elbow on him again and again: "we said it wouldn't work!" and Shanny having to eat it.

Make no mistake - Mitch is going one way or another.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 15 @ 6:46 PM ET
I don't see any Marner trade out there.

Someone tell me some options. Unless he goes to DAL, VGK, FLA, TBL to take pay cut because of state tax - there are VERY limited teams that will give him 11m+. I don't see him leaving Toronto to take a pay cut. What a horrible situation for Treliving to deal with

- AlfieisKing


You don't see it but multiple people in hockey report that there would a LOT of interest.

Soooo....there's that.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 15 @ 6:48 PM ET
You don't see it but multiple people in hockey report that there would a LOT of interest.

Soooo....there's that.

- fifty__missions

thats because everyone knows Tree cant win a Marner trade
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 15 @ 6:49 PM ET
thats because everyone knows Tree cant win a Marner trade
- drexel

That's ok. We're not winning with him. I'll try door no. 2 at this point.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

May 15 @ 6:51 PM ET
I don't see any Marner trade out there.

Someone tell me some options. Unless he goes to DAL, VGK, FLA, TBL to take pay cut because of state tax - there are VERY limited teams that will give him 11m+. I don't see him leaving Toronto to take a pay cut. What a horrible situation for Treliving to deal with

- AlfieisKing

Tampa is one of the few teams who can currently say "Nah, we don't need an elite winger". They have needs, but another pricey winger isn't one of them. They also have new contracts for Hedman and Stamkos to figure out. I don't see Marner fitting in there.

Now, Tavares and Stamkos are friends. But, that doesn't move the needle any when it comes to JT leaving for Tampa or Stamkos leaving for Toronto. Both have interests in staying put.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

May 15 @ 6:51 PM ET
correct and the Leafs keep their assets.

Losing Marner will hurt the Leafs cause he a good regular season player but disappears when the going get tough and when they count him for offence which wilts with said pressure

- dmnted

Not for nothing, and believe me I'm no Marner fan right now, but he might grow out of his pu$$iness at some point and start lighting it up in the playoffs.

The only saving grace to keeping him is that JT is off the books next year.

If we never signed JT, I don't think anyone would even consider trading Marner because the team would be more balanced with JT's $11M never on the books.

Besides the fact that, realistically, Marner doesn't do any worse than the other Core clowns. They are all snake bitten AF in the playoffs.

A new coach will go a long way for me. JT off the books will go a long way for the D and G.

It is kinda going to be a wait it out for next season to end me thinks.

For next season with a new coach do this:

Have an opening night ceremony with JT giving the C to Matthews.

Re-sign Domi and Bert.

Figure out the G and D with no money for another year.

Otherwise the best deal I think you would get is a PLD and top tier RHD cost controlled Clarke for Marner. It's not like the rest of the league doesn't know Marner shrinks in the playoffs.

If the Leafs could get PLD 25% retained and the Clarke kid, that deal at least makes the team better next season because you have money to add a better goalie. And paying PLD $6M ish for next 7 years or whatever is going to be a steal for a 2C to replace JT.

Then stacks o' cash in Summer 2025 for D when JT is done and Minten slots in as the 3C.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 15 @ 6:53 PM ET
That's ok. We're not winning with him. I'll try door no. 2 at this point.
- fifty__missions

ID try to get as many picks and defensive prospects you can get.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

May 15 @ 6:57 PM ET
I don't see any Marner trade out there.

Someone tell me some options. Unless he goes to DAL, VGK, FLA, TBL to take pay cut because of state tax - there are VERY limited teams that will give him 11m+. I don't see him leaving Toronto to take a pay cut. What a horrible situation for Treliving to deal with

- AlfieisKing


Thanks tips, now fück off.
paulozz
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 15 @ 6:58 PM ET
I don't see any Marner trade out there.

Someone tell me some options. Unless he goes to DAL, VGK, FLA, TBL to take pay cut because of state tax - there are VERY limited teams that will give him 11m+. I don't see him leaving Toronto to take a pay cut. What a horrible situation for Treliving to deal with

uhhhh.....Nashville (TEN) buddy
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

May 15 @ 7:00 PM ET
Not for nothing, and believe me I'm no Marner fan right now, but he might grow out of his pu$$iness at some point and start lighting it up in the playoffs.

The only saving grace to keeping him is that JT is off the books next year.

If we never signed JT, I don't think anyone would even consider trading Marner because the team would be more balanced with JT's $11M never on the books.

Besides the fact that, realistically, Marner doesn't do any worse than the other Core clowns. They are all snake bitten AF in the playoffs.

A new coach will go a long way for me. JT off the books will go a long way for the D and G.

It is kinda going to be a wait it out for next season to end me thinks.

For next season with a new coach do this:

Have an opening night ceremony with JT giving the C to Matthews.

Re-sign Domi and Bert.

Figure out the G and D with no money for another year.

Otherwise the best deal I think you would get is a PLD and top tier RHD cost controlled Clarke for Marner. It's not like the rest of the league doesn't know Marner shrinks in the playoffs.

If the Leafs could get PLD 25% retained and the Clarke kid, that deal at least makes the team better next season because you have money to add a better goalie. And paying PLD $6M ish for next 7 years or whatever is going to be a steal for a 2C to replace JT.

Then stacks o' cash in Summer 2025 for D when JT is done and Minten slots in as the 3C.

- underhill14


Fück off with PLD
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

May 15 @ 7:04 PM ET
Trade Marner for a coach, a bag of used hockey pucks, and a happiness from the media to write something about it.

Should work out beaut.
Cush29
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Who Owzzzzz da' Chiefs?, ON
Joined: 12.22.2014

May 15 @ 7:06 PM ET
Trade Marner for a coach, a bag of used hockey pucks, and a happiness from the media to write something about it.

Should work out beaut.

- Dozzer


Go for the double whammy and give the “C” to Willy as you suggested.

Guaranteed epic meltdowns in here, and a natural disaster in Northern Ontario due to flooding from all the tears!

Lmao
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

May 15 @ 7:07 PM ET
The Leafs are not letting Marner walk for nothing. That'd be the dumbest move imaginable.
- Rare_Jewel

go back and reread what you typed 🤔
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