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QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

May 21 @ 10:20 AM ET
JJ Peterka had slightly worse production per game in his rookie season at 20 years old.

Y'know our 2nd leading goal scorer this year

- DirtyDan


Peterka also has skills that Benny doesn't possess, the primary being elite skating. Zach will need to get faster to really dominate like Peterka has started to.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 10:21 AM ET
Yeah, read some of the latter. Twitter especially houses some ridiculous takes, but I was surprised at people saying he deserved 2nd or 3rd in the Calder voting...pure silliness.
- QuinnFan


yeah, nah. I think he was better than luke hughes though.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 21 @ 10:22 AM ET
yeah, nah. I think he was better than luke hughes though.
- TheSabresTaco

Luke Hughes is incredibly over rated right now
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 21 @ 10:22 AM ET
Peterka also has skills that Benny doesn't possess, the primary being elite skating. Zach will need to get faster to really dominate like Peterka has started to.
- QuinnFan


And why didnt that elite skating get him a higher production at an older age?

Does Zach Benson not posses skills that JJ Peterka doesnt?
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 21 @ 10:24 AM ET
Lets not forget people who called JJ Peterka's breakout season (It was me) and who questioned it would come this early (it was you people)
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

May 21 @ 10:24 AM ET
no, if you're being serious. yes, if you're not.
- TheSabresTaco


I'm being serious. Not many players even played in the NHL in 2023. He has the most points behind Bedard.

https://www.hockey-refere...draft/NHL_2023_entry.html

washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 21 @ 10:25 AM ET
by zach benson? what are you getting at here
- TheSabresTaco


If Savoie, Kulich and Ostlund are on the roster next season, where does your confidence in making the playoffs measure?

Potentially helping in the future is a mirage, they are complimentary players for the starters at best, in a few years.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 10:25 AM ET
Luke Hughes is incredibly over rated right now
- sbroads24


If his name was Luke Smith, no one would be giving a poop about him rn.

He IS talented, but the runner up to Brock Faber aint it.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

May 21 @ 10:26 AM ET
yeah, nah. I think he was better than luke hughes though.
- TheSabresTaco


Close. The points make that deceiving. He really struggled on defense at times where Benny never looked out of place IMO...a little tired sometimes, but never struggling.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 21 @ 10:27 AM ET
I'm being serious. Not many players even played in the NHL in 2023. He has the most points behind Bedard.

https://www.hockey-refere...draft/NHL_2023_entry.html

- Hatboro_Swords


4th in ppg.

He may not even be a top 10 pick still. That's how strong the forward group in the draft is.

He was definitely the best two-way forward out of the player that played this year though.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

May 21 @ 10:27 AM ET
And why didnt that elite skating get him a higher production at an older age?

Does Zach Benson not posses skills that JJ Peterka doesnt?

- DirtyDan


I think his shot improved greatly tbh. That's the big change I saw anyways. Skating was always there and is unlikely for Zach to reach that level of speed.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 21 @ 10:28 AM ET
If Savoie, Kulich and Ostlund are on the roster next season, where does your confidence in making the playoffs measure?

Potentially helping in the future is a mirage, they are complimentary players for the starters at best, in a few years.

- washedup20


Who cares.


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 10:28 AM ET
Lets not forget people who called JJ Peterka's breakout season (It was me) and who questioned it would come this early (it was you people)
- DirtyDan


JJ Peterka was playing in the DEL and loaned to the ICEHL in his 2020 season. Just to give everyone a sense of where he was in his development vs Benson.

yes, 2nd round pick. But These Things Take Time™
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 21 @ 10:28 AM ET
Lets not forget people who called JJ Peterka's breakout season (It was me) and who questioned it would come this early (it was you people)
- DirtyDan



There is about 20 posters on here saying this exact same thing...only a moron couldn't see Peterka was on the rise.

The discussion all you unique posters refer back to was, who to trade to improve the team Quinn or Peterka, and some people choose Peterka.

The "you're special" stickers ran out from this post 6 months ago.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 21 @ 10:29 AM ET
JJ Peterka was playing in the DEL and loaned to the ICEHL in his 2020 season. Just to give everyone a sense of where he was in his development vs Benson.

yes, 2nd round pick. But These Things Take Time™

- TheSabresTaco


1st round grade though

And in the DEL he was playing with none other than Sabres legend... Zach Redmond
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 10:29 AM ET
I'm being serious. Not many players even played in the NHL in 2023. He has the most points behind Bedard.

https://www.hockey-refere...draft/NHL_2023_entry.html

- Hatboro_Swords


this is like the inverted Clown argument
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 10:30 AM ET
Close. The points make that deceiving. He really struggled on defense at times where Benny never looked out of place IMO...a little tired sometimes, but never struggling.
- QuinnFan


I would hope most people would care about "play" instead of points but we know the trophy people hardly give a poop, especially for defenders.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 10:30 AM ET
If Savoie, Kulich and Ostlund are on the roster next season, where does your confidence in making the playoffs measure?

Potentially helping in the future is a mirage, they are complimentary players for the starters at best, in a few years.

- washedup20


If all 3 are on the roster next year then Kevyn Adams lied to the world.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 21 @ 10:31 AM ET
Lets not forget people who called JJ Peterka's breakout season (It was me) and who questioned it would come this early (it was you people)
- DirtyDan

Did you bet your Hockeybuzz Creds on it!
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 21 @ 10:32 AM ET
Who cares.
- DirtyDan


12/25/24

The writing is on the wall, its clearer than Peterka doing well on a losing team to see.

Year 5 and potential is all this group has, all this hype on Benson, what are the projections for him next season?

What would be considered regression?
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 21 @ 10:32 AM ET
Did you bet your Hockeybuzz Creds on it!
- Buff36


only 3 things are certain in this world.

Death, taxes and DirtyDan
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 10:33 AM ET
1st round grade though

And in the DEL he was playing with none other than Chippewa legend... Derek Roy

- DirtyDan


i know, that's sick
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 21 @ 10:33 AM ET
If all 3 are on the roster next year then Kevyn Adams lied to the world.
- TheSabresTaco

He needs to hear YES from a few players for it to not happen. Or Okposo is back with Sh!t sta(Girgensons) are back.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 21 @ 10:34 AM ET
12/25/24

The writing is on the wall, its clearer than Peterka doing well on a losing team to see.

Year 5 and potential is all this group has, all this hype on Benson, what are the projections for him next season?

What would be considered regression?

- washedup20


When will the shtick run out?

You've taken the baton from boss but the race was over a long time ago
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 21 @ 10:34 AM ET
12/25/24

The writing is on the wall, its clearer than Peterka doing well on a losing team to see.

Year 5 and potential is all this group has, all this hype on Benson, what are the projections for him next season?

What would be considered regression?

- washedup20


Zach Benson's regression is a reduction in ice time and a plateau of points.
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