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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 22 @ 3:29 PM ET
The Sabres would've traded the 11th overall in the upcoming draft, a 2nd round pick, Isak Rosén, and Vsevolod Komarov for Ehlers AND Cirelli.

That would be a massive win by the GM.

- kingcong39


i can handle that
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 22 @ 3:38 PM ET
i can handle that
- TheSabresTaco

Doubt Adams can
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 22 @ 3:46 PM ET
i love fishin in que bec
- TheSabresTaco


You ever had a special Que bec pizza?


IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 22 @ 4:11 PM ET
Do you think the Sabres wouldn't give him $5M to come in and be a de facto captain for a year?

I think most teams in this league would sign up for Stammer at 4x1 tbh. I think there's quite a few that would give a multi year deal as well. His impact has lessened, but he's far from washed up.

- QuinnFan


I'm confused.
You said there are several better options than Stamkos...to which I asked you who those are that would provide better value.
I don't see Stamkos leaving Tampa, and if he did it would be alot closer to $7m+ than $4m...why would he discount his value except to a team he has played for since joining the league (15 seasons, he was out for nearly 1 season)

Help me to understand.
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

May 22 @ 4:21 PM ET
I'm confused.
You said there are several better options than Stamkos...to which I asked you who those are that would provide better value.
I don't see Stamkos leaving Tampa, and if he did it would be alot closer to $7m+ than $4m...why would he discount his value except to a team he has played for since joining the league (15 seasons, he was out for nearly 1 season)

Help me to understand.

- IonSabres


There are better options than Stamkos for what we'd have to pay him ($7M+ as you say)...at $3.8M, 1 year, anyone would sign him IMO, that's all I meant.

At $7M, or a longer term salary, I'd rather go after Cirelli on his own team, as an example. I just was surprised you didn't think other teams wouldn't gladly give him 25% more than that projected salary to come to their team. I would assume nearly anyone in the league would, that's all. I think for us we'd have to convince him he'd be captain here, get a 2-3 year deal vs a one and done, and open the coffers. That's what would dissuade me, I'm not sure he's got that much tread left.

As far as a discount, players discount to go to contenders, which Tampa isn't IMO. Maybe his impression is different but there's the home town discount and the contender discount, I'd say the latter is more common tbh.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 22 @ 4:28 PM ET
I thought we didn't want to pay a 3C 6+millions?
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

May 22 @ 4:36 PM ET
There are better options than Stamkos for what we'd have to pay him ($7M+ as you say)...at $3.8M, 1 year, anyone would sign him IMO, that's all I meant.

At $7M, or a longer term salary, I'd rather go after Cirelli on his own team, as an example. I just was surprised you didn't think other teams wouldn't gladly give him 25% more than that projected salary to come to their team. I would assume nearly anyone in the league would, that's all. I think for us we'd have to convince him he'd be captain here, get a 2-3 year deal vs a one and done, and open the coffers. That's what would dissuade me, I'm not sure he's got that much tread left.

As far as a discount, players discount to go to contenders, which Tampa isn't IMO. Maybe his impression is different but there's the home town discount and the contender discount, I'd say the latter is more common tbh.

- QuinnFan


Dream scenario imo. He and Lindy together would kick the rest of the team into shape
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 22 @ 4:43 PM ET
I thought we didn't want to pay a 3C 6+millions?
- DirtyDan

washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 22 @ 4:53 PM ET

- homiedclown


If you deduct trauma from being in a bad organization….Mitts was practically 18 years old the entire time in Buffalo.
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 22 @ 4:53 PM ET

- homiedclown



Casey being pleased to do demanding work... surprising to say the least


DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

May 22 @ 4:55 PM ET
Seriously tho, didn't we say no thanks to paying a 3C 6 millions?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 22 @ 4:58 PM ET
Seriously tho, didn't we say no thanks to paying a 3C 6 millions?
- DirtyDan

Yes and we traded him for Bryam so we could pay a Different 3C 7mill
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

May 22 @ 5:05 PM ET
Seriously tho, didn't we say no thanks to paying a 3C 6 millions?
- DirtyDan


Mitts was never a good fit for a 3C: not a faceoff guy, not an especially good two-way player. He deserved a shot as a 2C to produce offensively. If the right fit for a 3C comes along - even at $6m - they should absolutely do it imo
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

May 22 @ 5:06 PM ET
Yes and we traded him for Bryam so we could pay a Different 3C 7mill
- Buff36




Pretty much
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 22 @ 5:07 PM ET
Yes and we traded him for Bryam so we could pay a Different 3C 7mill
- Buff36


Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 22 @ 5:09 PM ET

- washedup20

Hey he's got Fitz turning tricks on 1st and 1st so he's starting somewhere.
Da_Cashman
Buffalo Sabres
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.18.2011

May 22 @ 5:11 PM ET
You ever had a special Que bec pizza?



- DirtyDan



Isn’t that a pop tart covered in ketchup?
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 22 @ 5:12 PM ET
Isn’t that a pop tart covered in ketchup?
- Da_Cashman

Oh my!
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 22 @ 5:17 PM ET
https://thehockeynews.com...r-named-target-for-sabres
Decent get
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

May 22 @ 5:17 PM ET
Hey he's got Fitz turning tricks on 1st and 1st so he's starting somewhere.
- Buff36

“So what’s it gonna be, Ya wanna fight or are you here for other ‘services’?”
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 22 @ 5:25 PM ET
TSN
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Sheldon Keefe has been hired as the head coach of the New Jersey Devils
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 22 @ 5:38 PM ET
“So what’s it gonna be, Ya wanna fight or are you here for other ‘services’?”
- Ratsreign

Fitz seems like a Yes Sir type!🤷‍♂️
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 22 @ 5:43 PM ET
There are better options than Stamkos for what we'd have to pay him ($7M+ as you say)...at $3.8M, 1 year, anyone would sign him IMO, that's all I meant.

At $7M, or a longer term salary, I'd rather go after Cirelli on his own team, as an example. I just was surprised you didn't think other teams wouldn't gladly give him 25% more than that projected salary to come to their team. I would assume nearly anyone in the league would, that's all. I think for us we'd have to convince him he'd be captain here, get a 2-3 year deal vs a one and done, and open the coffers. That's what would dissuade me, I'm not sure he's got that much tread left.

As far as a discount, players discount to go to contenders, which Tampa isn't IMO. Maybe his impression is different but there's the home town discount and the contender discount, I'd say the latter is more common tbh.

- QuinnFan


This Sabres team requires an infusion of leadership to take it to the next level. The proper leader of this team isn't here yet...and Stamkos fills exactly that, plus superior performance which improves in the PO's ...he's the epitomy of a gamer. As a center, he's in the mid 50's for FO win %. As a Captain he has been through the war of leading a team that "cheated" play, and helped transform them into a machine that can lock down Game 7 wins 2-1. That is exactly what you pay him for. The Sabres would have the best Captain in the game to learn accountability from...right now, they just admitted they can't even spell it, let alone implement it.

I'm stunned a Sabres fan after these 13 seasons wouldn't jump at the opportunity to have him lead the team.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 22 @ 5:48 PM ET
This Sabres team requires an infusion of leadership to take it to the next level. The proper leader of this team isn't here yet...and Stamkos fills exactly that, plus superior performance which improves in the PO's ...he's the epitomy of a gamer. As a center, he's in the mid 50's for FO win %. As a Captain he has been through the war of leading a team that "cheated" play, and helped transform them into a machine that can lock down Game 7 wins 2-1. That is exactly what you pay him for. The Sabres would have the best Captain in the game to learn accountability from...right now, they just admitted they can't even spell it, let alone implement it.

I'm stunned a Sabres fan after these 13 seasons wouldn't jump at the opportunity to have him lead the team.

- IonSabres

He should be number 1 on everyone's list.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 22 @ 5:49 PM ET
https://thehockeynews.com...-face-offseason-decisions
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