Would love to see Kane back here. Assuming the meds check out and it's not more than 3 years, and he's 100% on board not likely sniffing the playoffs until next year or likely 2026-27. if he's ok with that, and the term/aav is good.....it's a win-win.

You get a HOF to show younger kids how to routinely improve their game. A well respected veteran in the room who seems to bond well with younger players.

You also get a guy to take some of the media heat off of Bedard 24/7. Thought of Kane floating Bedard mattress passes like he did Panarin and DeBrincat and getting a glimpse as to how high Bedard's ceiling may be?

yeah, you can sign me up for that.

You would know the minute I say no trade the only month early drfat pick trade that every happened...just did!
They know the board drops after slot #18, but I am not sure if 2 slot jump and drops and an extra pick seeems a bit rich....
- wiz1901

They must of felt 19 or 20 was the beginning of the next tier of players. Sacrificing an extra 2nd rounder must make them believe that but i do like they moved up in the 2nd round as well.

Unless they might be negotiating to give up 18 and 50 to get in the top 10? I guess we'll see

So KD gave up #61 to move up two spots in the first round and four spots in the second. By the way, the 61st came with D!ckinson in the Riley Stillman trade. Dominoes, there’s another move, you would think. I would take Kane back as well, $5Mx2, but besides the PP and special circumstances, I would not have him on the same line as Bedard.

Is Demidov considered a 200 foot player? If not, wouldn't a Bedard/Demidov combination be considered just as bad? Maybe Bedard will wind up on wing.
- boilermaker100

I'm not completely in the Demidov camp, but wouldn't you rather have a coachable 20 year old who can't play a 200 foot game rather than a 35 year old with tens of millions of dollars in the bank who can't play a 200 foot game?

What did everyone think about the Dallas game last night? Dallas sure looked like they were putting out about 80% effort and the Oil sure pounced on that. If Dallas gives the effort they gave in game 6 of the AV series, the series will be much different.
- glennjpawlak22

I've noticed in the past couple of games the Oilers D aren't making as many bonehead plays and seem to be doing a good job of keeping the opposing teams' offense on the perimeter. It's possible that the Stars were too focused on Edmonton's top line and were surprised by the effort coming from Edmonton's bottom 6. Kudos to Knoblock for getting all 4 lines running. We'll see what happens if the Oilers fall behind a couple of goals in the coming games. They might become a 2 line team again.

Is Jones really in Play to Utah for their first?
- glennjpawlak22

Not from any specific rumors but it kinda makes sense when you look at what Utah is doing and that they would want to be 'exciting' and 'competitive' straight away.

Jones carries the puck forward well and has a good first pass. When he winds it up and goes end to end (regardless of how productive it actually is) it's a visually appealing thing. Thats why so many GM's were (and some probably still are) enamored with the tool set.

Trying to build a fan base in a new city perception is more important than reality and having established players to market is a thing.

The only glaring things about the guy are consistency (which is important and has been a knock since his days in c-bus) and that he doesn't move well enough laterally and backwards to stand up at the blue line so he has to retreat.

His contract and play aren't anywhere near proportional to his overpayment but there are reasons why the Hawks would consider offloading him from a tactical perspective. There are also plenty of reasons it makes sense to keep him around. Like getting more competitive, and eating minutes so the kiddos don't get beat up too bad straight away.

He's still a good to very good NHL player who will likely have a diminished role any way you cut it in 3-4 years if he stays with this team which isn't the end of the world. Zadorov played an important role for Vancouver. I don't care of the player but if the right coach could coax that out of him, Jones is a much better player and should be way more useful down the road fwiw.

(Both Vlasic and Korch are excellent at denying entries which makes me think that LR wants to play more aggressively on the blue line and look to create more neutral zone turnovers. The 2010 Hawks were exceptional at this. Florida is doing a good job and they enough mobility on their blue line to play aggressively plus guys like TheChuck and Barkov eat dudes alive when time and space is taken away like that. Only recourse is to dump which is why you'd like to see Korch get better at escaping with his feet or making a more reliable outlet pass when he goes to fetch. Some of that hopefully improves without having to have Menga or Tinordi as a partner)

One of my pipe dreams.

A. Probably the only player on the Hawks who is worth a 1st (excluding Bedard, Vlasic). Personally I want to move him for futures rather than have him around for 6 more years. His play will eventually decline.

B. I believe Utah's new owner wants to make a splash with a big acquisition.

C. Utah needs bodies on defense. They have none signed for next year, albeit 3 RFA's.

D. Utah has the cap space and draft picks/young players which could be used in the trade.

E. Seth may waive for Utah. He seems like a low profile guy that stays out of the limelight so he would fit in there.

F. I thinks he has family ties to the Denver area, so closer to home.

G. Jones wants to play for a winner. I think Utah is closer to playoff contention than the Hawks. And I think the new owner will be more aggressive in building a winner than Merulo was in Arizona.

H. There's are several free agent right D available this summer, so this is a good time to move Jones and obtain a couple of decent replacements. KD will have the cap space.
- boilermaker100

His brother was on the Avs this year and his dad coaches for the Nuggets.

Yes, the problem with all these trade proposals for Jones is you have to convince a good player with a NTC or a UFA (even with an overpay) to play on a loser for two years. Good luck.
- MartiniMan

He's already on a loser?

I am not going to venture guesses who is still on the board, but you simply do not know who will be there....

Can you imagine the gem that might fall into our laps?


Chicago acquires 2024 1st round pick (NYI - #18) and 2024 2nd round pick (NYI - #50) from NY Islanders for 2024 1st round pick (TBL - #20), 2024 2nd round pick (LAK - #54 via Philly goal draft pick 2023) and 2024 2nd round pick (VAN - #61)

Old Uncle Lou moves early before the other GM's get out of bed in the morning.
- RickJ

Ya, which is why I think this was initiated by Lou to get the extra 2nd and gets KD closer to who they want to draft second

I am not going to venture guesses who is still on the board, but you simply do not know who will be there....

Can you imagine the gem that might fall into our laps?


Chicago acquires 2024 1st round pick (NYI - #18) and 2024 2nd round pick (NYI - #50) from NY Islanders for 2024 1st round pick (TBL - #20), 2024 2nd round pick (LAK - #54 via Philly goal draft pick 2023) and 2024 2nd round pick (VAN - #61)
- wiz1901

Helenius

I am not going to venture guesses who is still on the board, but you simply do not know who will be there....

Can you imagine the gem that might fall into our laps?


Chicago acquires 2024 1st round pick (NYI - #18) and 2024 2nd round pick (NYI - #50) from NY Islanders for 2024 1st round pick (TBL - #20), 2024 2nd round pick (LAK - #54 via Philly goal draft pick 2023) and 2024 2nd round pick (VAN - #61)
- wiz1901

Hey Wiz, at what point do they have to start getting guys more so than picks?

Would love to see Kane back here. Assuming the meds check out and it's not more than 3 years, and he's 100% on board not likely sniffing the playoffs until next year or likely 2026-27. if he's ok with that, and the term/aav is good.....it's a win-win.

You get a HOF to show younger kids how to routinely improve their game. A well respected veteran in the room who seems to bond well with younger players.

You also get a guy to take some of the media heat off of Bedard 24/7. Thought of Kane floating Bedard mattress passes like he did Panarin and DeBrincat and getting a glimpse as to how high Bedard's ceiling may be?

yeah, you can sign me up for that.
- SteveRain

From a selfish perspective and nothing more I'd love to watch Kane every game again. But I can't get past the picture of him walking out of a hotel, equipment bag over his shoulder, and on a street corner waiting for the ride to the airport. That's rookie going to the minors treatment. Really piss poor move. Hopefully his lady being from around here makes a difference.

Hey Wiz, at what point do they have to start getting guys more so than picks?
- 6628

As is finding some NHL club willing to trade any younger excess of talent?

I think it is tough, but I suspect that I Phillips and others would be the place you start on that --- and your 3rd rounders.

Before someone lectures you and me about "the only guarantees are selecting as low as you can (High like 2, 18,...) I think the drat thrower there IS getting tow very good players sooner than later.

Absolutely know what you are saying I think...the past bad choices left Kyle with canvas that diidn't include younger mid range players who could anchor roster spots and help improve things until the team really stocked for later.

Florida Panthers wait wait and although they drafted Barkov, pick up two top draft pick centres in Reinhardt and Bennett...

When will the time you strike that iron here?

MAYBE after next years first rounder draft harvest another top sixer....

Updated 7 round Mock Draft.

https://stage.lines.com/nhl/drafts/2024

I would agree neither team bites. For various reasons. But the trade proposal is not to be disregarded if both teams have interest. If I were Utah I want an additional draft choice and truthfully Utah should not trade out of their first round slot

Also per trade and free agent signs:
I do not think KD takes on both Stamkos and Kane. And I bet KD envision s Hayes or others to become a scoring forward. Nazar, Hayes (some point next season), Reichel increase production + maybe Kane
- jhawk59

I think you'd see a swap of later picks. So like Jones for first and then a 4th for a 3rd or whatever.

Carolina GM Waddell leaving. He supposedly was granted permission to talk with Columbus about their open GM job.

Eric Tulsky appointed Canes' interim GM. I think he interviewed with the Hawks a few years ago? He's supposed to be an analytics guru.
- boilermaker100

Tulsky has interviewed for a few GM jobs. Kind of an analytics pioneer. Really interesting background in data science.

https://x.com/J_Swish24/status/1794041520406065510

Chicago?

To replace KD? Not likely I think. Above KD or kinda 1A-1B GM tandem. I don't know if this guy is full of it or what.

https://x.com/J_Swish24/status/1794041520406065510

Chicago?

To replace KD? Not likely I think. Above KD or kinda 1A-1B GM tandem. I don't know if this guy is full of it or what.
- Rota's Rooter

If he brings Brindamour with him, I'm all in.

https://x.com/J_Swish24/status/1794041520406065510

Chicago?

To replace KD? Not likely I think. Above KD or kinda 1A-1B GM tandem. I don't know if this guy is full of it or what.
- Rota's Rooter

President of Hockey Ops maybe so Danny doesn't have to be as hands on. Maybe as a consultant so he can stay in hockey but not have all the stress. Kinda like the elder Bowman did.

As is finding some NHL club willing to trade any younger excess of talent?

I think it is tough, but I suspect that I Phillips and others would be the place you start on that --- and your 3rd rounders.

Before someone lectures you and me about "the only guarantees are selecting as low as you can (High like 2, 18,...) I think the drat thrower there IS getting tow very good players sooner than later.

Absolutely know what you are saying I think...the past bad choices left Kyle with canvas that diidn't include younger mid range players who could anchor roster spots and help improve things until the team really stocked for later.

Florida Panthers wait wait and although they drafted Barkov, pick up two top draft pick centres in Reinhardt and Bennett...

When will the time you strike that iron here?

MAYBE after next years first rounder draft harvest another top sixer....

Updated 7 round Mock Draft.

https://stage.lines.com/nhl/drafts/2024
- wiz1901

Thanks for the input. At some point they are going to have to start filling around the picks that stick. Takes time for sure.

President of Hockey Ops maybe so Danny doesn't have to be as hands on. Maybe as a consultant so he can stay in hockey but not have all the stress. Kinda like the elder Bowman did.
- fattybeef

Understandable.

Little Danny W. even being around the team since a child, doesn't strike me as having a wealth of hockey knowledge.

From a selfish perspective and nothing more I'd love to watch Kane every game again. But I can't get past the picture of him walking out of a hotel, equipment bag over his shoulder, and on a street corner waiting for the ride to the airport. That's rookie going to the minors treatment. Really piss poor move. Hopefully his lady being from around here makes a difference.
- 6628

Agreed, and to many a point....is he ok with losing? No shot at a cup for the forseeable future? Nobody knows that answer expect 88.

Hope you're doing good

President of Hockey Ops maybe so Danny doesn't have to be as hands on. Maybe as a consultant so he can stay in hockey but not have all the stress. Kinda like the elder Bowman did.
- fattybeef

I don't think KD is getting a new boss. KD could be looking at him as an "experienced" advisor.

From 2004 to 2013 28% of players drafted in the 2nd round played 300 NHL games. Davidson just traded a 2nd to move 2 spots without knowing who is going to be available. Seems like a lot to give. Another highly debatable asset management move.

Understandable.

Little Danny W. even being around the team since a child, doesn't strike me as having a wealth of hockey knowledge.
- Rota's Rooter

I think he runs the whole liquor empire too so now that the Hawks are accumulating talent and that they acted swiftly and mercilessly in dismissing Perry to send the message they aren't tolerating bullpoop anymore probs time to delegate.