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Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 31 @ 1:40 PM ET
@CapFriendly
We're 1 month away from NHL Free Agency. Here are the top 20 pending UFA forwards ranked by points last season:

1. S Reinhart (FLA)
2. S Stamkos (TBL)
3. J Guentzel (CAR)
4. J Marchessault (VGK)
5. J Pavelski (DAL)
6. M Duchene (DAL)
7. S Monahan (WPG)
8. J Drouin (COL)
9. T Toffoli (WPG)
10. V Tarasenko (FLA)
11. T Teräväinen (CAR)
12. C Stephenson (VGK)
13. A Henrique (EDM)
14. D Perron (DET)
15. M Domi (TOR)
16. P Kane (DET)
17. E Lindholm (VAN)
18. A Mantha (VGK)
19. T Bertuzzi (TOR)
20. D Sprong (DET)

- Lunaion



I'd take any one of those players. But we'll most likely end up with Connor Flinflonachuk.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 31 @ 1:43 PM ET
Not sure of his exact point, but the list does thin out fast.

Just gonna keep saying they need a trade before UFA. Can't count on getting what they need from UFA.

- Lunaion

we have not had a decent free agent player that makes impact for the team since spacek
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 31 @ 1:43 PM ET
I'd take any one of those players. But we'll k lost likely end up with Connor Flinflonachuk.
- Powerslave

does Connor have a hot mom?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 31 @ 1:44 PM ET
I'd take any one of those players. But we'll k lost likely end up with Connor Flinflonachuk.
- Powerslave


Not sure if it's good or bad, but they probably miss out on the entire top 20. Most of the money spent on those guys will look bad in a year or two.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 31 @ 1:45 PM ET
Not sure of his exact point, but the list does thin out fast.

Just gonna keep saying they need a trade before UFA. Can't count on getting what they need from UFA.

- Lunaion


Point - NHL UFA is generally awful.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 31 @ 1:46 PM ET
Not sure if it's good or bad, but they probably miss out on the entire top 20. Most of the money spent on those guys will look bad in a year or two.
- Lunaion

It’s good. Unless it’s for max 1-2 years.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 31 @ 1:50 PM ET
Point - NHL UFA is generally awful.
- ImThatGuy


Hard for it not to be. Peak is around 24. UFA is generally 27+. You're always signing guys on the wrong side.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 31 @ 1:54 PM ET
vantrano's pk skills mean nothing?

ehlers is much better 5 on 5

- homiedclown


you asked overall. and since most of the game is played at 5v5, it's hard to justify Vatrano, if I'm picking one or the other.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 31 @ 2:02 PM ET
you asked overall. and since most of the game is played at 5v5, it's hard to justify Vatrano, if I'm picking one or the other.
- TheSabresTaco

Played on 2 totally different teams though
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 31 @ 2:06 PM ET
does Connor have a hot mom?
- homiedclown



If she is, Kevyn isn't interested
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 31 @ 2:07 PM ET
https://x.com/adampensel/...amp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
This!
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 31 @ 2:11 PM ET
Played on 2 totally different teams though
- Buff36


yes, but ehlers is in a different league than frank vatrano. if you had to pick one, there isn't even a decision.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

May 31 @ 2:13 PM ET
yes, but ehlers is in a different league than frank vatrano. if you had to pick one, there isn't even a decision.
- TheSabresTaco

Sure, but we usually don't get the good stuff
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 31 @ 2:13 PM ET
does Connor have a hot mom?
- homiedclown


These are the questions real management should be asking.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 31 @ 2:13 PM ET
yes, but ehlers is in a different league than frank vatrano. if you had to pick one, there isn't even a decision.
- TheSabresTaco


The real question is who will regress less in Buffalo…..
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 31 @ 2:15 PM ET
Not sure if it's good or bad, but they probably miss out on the entire top 20. Most of the money spent on those guys will look bad in a year or two.
- Lunaion

10 months ago

mayfield 3.5 mil per
wood 2.5 per
e rod 3 per
kerfoot 3.5 per
eller 2.45 per
duchene 3 per
bjugstad 2.1 per
sprong 2 per

there was value last summer and we had cap space

instead we overpaid for crap and in reality deserved to miss out on the playoffs due to an inexperienced gm and an echl head coach
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 31 @ 2:15 PM ET
Not sure of his exact point, but the list does thin out fast.

Just gonna keep saying they need a trade before UFA. Can't count on getting what they need from UFA.

- Lunaion


Nor should they.
2 trades before FA. 3C and a top 6 winger.
Then a 4th liner in FA
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 31 @ 2:16 PM ET
Played on 2 totally different teams though
- Buff36

yeah that was the angle I was trying to get at

one was a cup contender and the other was a bottom feeder
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 31 @ 2:17 PM ET
My sauce is boozed up after a strong lunch, he keeps texting me that when Adams hangs up the phone after a conversation he rubs eucerin lotion on his head while listening to Alex Jones….not going to lie I think this is our year.

That’s a badass routine
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 31 @ 2:20 PM ET
10 months ago

mayfield 3.5 mil per
wood 2.5 per
e rod 3 per
kerfoot 3.5 per
eller 2.45 per
duchene 3 per
bjugstad 2.1 per
sprong 2 per

there was value last summer and we had cap space

instead we overpaid for crap and in reality deserved to miss out on the playoffs due to an inexperienced gm and an echl head coach

- homiedclown


Guess I could have written more, but was implying guys who signed for some term and $.

Can find some value in 2nd and 3rd tiers. Opting to overpay your own 3rd tier guys is just being scared.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 31 @ 2:24 PM ET
Sure, but we usually don't get the good stuff
- Buff36


well that's not on the question either.

Who helps Buffalo more?
Ehlers or Vatrano

There's a mountain of evidence that Ehlers individually provides more positive impact per minute than Vatrano.

This is not me saying "no Vatrano". Ehlers is the better player, through and through.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 31 @ 2:25 PM ET
we've never seen kevo acquire a rental before.


ooooo new territory. very scary
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 31 @ 2:27 PM ET
10 months ago

mayfield 3.5 mil per
wood 2.5 per
e rod 3 per
kerfoot 3.5 per
eller 2.45 per
duchene 3 per
bjugstad 2.1 per
sprong 2 per

there was value last summer and we had cap space

instead we overpaid for crap and in reality deserved to miss out on the playoffs due to an inexperienced gm and an echl head coach

- homiedclown



How many on here would've been over the moon for most of those "value" signings? I bet not many. Hindsight, blah blah blah.

No one in here had Daniel Sprong on their radar.

Most would've thrown up at the prospect of Erod coming back. Yeah, he and his 12 goals look great on Florida. He's probably scoring 8 in Buffalo.

Bjugstad? There was exactly ONE poster in here who wanted him.

Yes, it's Kevyn's job to identify a player that might fit in here and have a good year. So, keep that in mind when they sign/trade for X player this summer that no one has on their radar like the 8 players you listed above.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 31 @ 2:27 PM ET
Nor should they.
2 trades before FA. 3C and a top 6 winger.
Then a 4th liner in FA

- IonSabres


Expected Buffalo pod is a good listen today. Chad just covered these.

IMO 3/4 C is their clear #1 need. Bottom 6 winger is second. I'd put D 3rd and I don't think they make a top 6 move.

G is a fascinating topic. I think they just go Levi. Doesn't seem like the biggest decision at first, but it could be the difference between playoffs or getting fired.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 31 @ 2:28 PM ET
we've never seen kevo acquire a rental before.


ooooo new territory. very scary

- TheSabresTaco


Name an Adams FA signing that didn’t turn into a rental?
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