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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

May 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
1XX-MATTY-MARNER
KNIES-2XX-NYLANDER
MCMANN-TAVARES-JARNKROK
DEWAR-KAMPF-HOLMBERG
EXTRA - REAVES

RIELLY-3XX
BENOIT-MCCABE
4XX-TIMMINS

WOLL-5XX

~18.5M TO SPEND.

- The Law



Circling back to this ...hmmmm. Critical queston for Tree, again assuming MM is back - is he better off going cheap on the goalie (eg. 2.5M for Brossoit) and having more to spend up front OR is he better going all in and trading for a goalie at $5-$6M (eg. Saros or Markstrom) and going cheap up top (eg. Robertson slots in instead of Domi or some other UFA winger).

Today I'm leaning goalie. Get the 2C, the blueliner and the goalie with your 18.5M and go cheap/young on the wings.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 28 @ 11:42 AM ET
Circling back to this ...hmmmm. Critical queston for Tree, again assuming MM is back - is he better off going cheap on the goalie (eg. 2.5M for Brossoit) and having more to spend up front OR is he better going all in and trading for a goalie at $5-$6M (eg. Saros or Markstrom) and going cheap up top (eg. Robertson slots in instead of Domi or some other UFA winger).

Today I'm leaning goalie. Get the 2C, the blueliner and the goalie with your 18.5M and go cheap/young on the wings.

- The Law


I think they need a good goalie with Woll.

Enough with the mid to lower tier goalies thinking they will get it done. They won't.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

May 28 @ 11:43 AM ET
he'll take up that extra contract spot the Leafs could use on someone else
- dmnted


If they like him then they'll utilize a roster spot on him. Some of the names on 50 man rosters couldn't hold Kase's jock strap ...if he's healthy.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 28 @ 11:44 AM ET
The high upside and zero risk other than a financial loss......Perfect player to target.

Makes zero sense not to target him, unless he wants too much but I doubt it.

- Santo_44

let's not forget about the contract spot as well.
The Leafs were at the limit but that limit will ease soon if it hasn't already.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 28 @ 11:47 AM ET
There are multiple players under contract in the leafs org with far far lower upside and probability of being an NHL player than Kase.

They signed Nicolas Mattinen ffs.

- Santo_44

I fondly remember being just a few rows away from Kase when Zadorov absolutely destroyed him
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

May 28 @ 11:47 AM ET
If they like him then they'll utilize a roster spot on him. Some of the names on 50 man rosters couldn't hold Kase's jock strap ...if he's healthy.
- The Law

that's the risk right there for me.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

May 28 @ 11:48 AM ET
Edmonton is like Toronto - you can't afford to rebuild. The window is now.
- Atomic Wedgie

Our window is stuck shut. It needs swapping out with a new one. A trade is required.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

May 28 @ 11:50 AM ET
I think they need a good goalie with Woll.

Enough with the mid to lower tier goalies thinking they will get it done. They won't.

- Santo_44


Saros at $5M is intriguing. I think with Askarov coming they'll be shy about giving Saros an 8 yr NMC lifetime type contract. So this summer is their best chance to move him for value.

Maybe too much competition for him (and Ullmark and Markstrom) though. Price will be high. Kings, Devils, Avs, Leafs, Sabres, Flyers, Canes, Wings ...
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

May 28 @ 11:52 AM ET
Circling back to this ...hmmmm. Critical queston for Tree, again assuming MM is back - is he better off going cheap on the goalie (eg. 2.5M for Brossoit) and having more to spend up front OR is he better going all in and trading for a goalie at $5-$6M (eg. Saros or Markstrom) and going cheap up top (eg. Robertson slots in instead of Domi or some other UFA winger).

Today I'm leaning goalie. Get the 2C, the blueliner and the goalie with your 18.5M and go cheap/young on the wings.

- The Law


If trade options for Saros or Markstrom are too expensive (and I imagine they would be), then Brossoit would be a great choice. I think he's underrated and could manage 30-40 games (even though I don't think he's ever done more than 25). He's really matured his game the last couple of years - and I thought he was decent enough before that. Other likely affordable goalie options would be Talbot, Stolarz or even Kahkonen.

For D they could basically target Tanev, Pesce, Dillon, Zadorov, Demelo, Grzelcyk, Forbort, Edmundson, Boosh, Kylington - even OEL or Skjei - all depending on price and what you're looking for.

Domi, Perron & Henrique up front as likely very affordable type of options with some decent versatility. Toffoli or DeBrusk as more expensive options with less versatility.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 28 @ 11:54 AM ET
I don't believe they will trade him, but if they do, it won't be until after July 1st.

He gets $7,250,000 on July 1st, and $775,000 the rest of the year.

IMHO, MLSE eats that $7,250,000 to get a much larger return.

- Atomic Wedgie

This.
Not much chance they move him prior to July 1st...if at all.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 28 @ 11:57 AM ET
Our window is stuck shut. It needs swapping out with a new one. A trade is required.
- fifty__missions

just needs some jig-a-loo
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 28 @ 11:59 AM ET
let's not forget about the contract spot as well.
The Leafs were at the limit but that limit will ease soon if it hasn't already.

- dmnted

It is the offseason, they will have contract slots.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

May 28 @ 12:06 PM ET
If trade options for Saros or Markstrom are too expensive (and I imagine they would be), then Brossoit would be a great choice. I think he's underrated and could manage 30-40 games (even though I don't think he's ever done more than 25). He's really matured his game the last couple of years - and I thought he was decent enough before that. Other likely affordable goalie options would be Talbot, Stolarz or even Kahkonen.

For D they could basically target Tanev, Pesce, Dillon, Zadorov, Demelo, Grzelcyk, Forbort, Edmundson, Boosh, Kylington - even OEL or Skjei - all depending on price and what you're looking for.

Domi, Perron & Henrique up front as likely very affordable type of options with some decent versatility. Toffoli or DeBrusk as more expensive options with less versatility.

- Monkeypunk


On the goaltending, I agree - sniff around on Saros, Markstrom and Ullmark and measure the cost. I think it'll get too much and the Leafs don't have a lot of depth/youth to play with. Brossoit sounds like the best option to sign and probably comes in around 2.5-3.5 depending on competition.

On the defence, I think they need to focus on quality over quantity a bit. Trade Lilly b/c he's going to be too expensive for 3rd pairing with his arb rights. I'd trade him for a less experienced 3rd pairing guy - another Benoit. Land on one guy to partner with Rielly and a puck moving vet to play on the 3rd pair. Boom, Brad's your uncle.

Up front, I'm leaning youth/cheap on the wings and spending the money on a 2C. Knies, Robertson, McMann down the left is fine by me (b/c they have to pick where to spend). Get a 2C - Stephenson, Karlsson, etc...? If you need help on the wings that's easier to find at the deadline. Plus I like the idea of giving Knies a lot of room/responsibility to grow this year.

But of course all of this changes if they move MM.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 28 @ 12:09 PM ET
On the goaltending, I agree - sniff around on Saros, Markstrom and Ullmark and measure the cost. I think it'll get too much and the Leafs don't have a lot of depth/youth to play with. Brossoit sounds like the best option to sign and probably comes in around 2.5-3.5 depending on competition.

On the defence, I think they need to focus on quality over quantity a bit. Trade Lilly b/c he's going to be too expensive for 3rd pairing with his arb rights. I'd trade him for a less experienced 3rd pairing guy - another Benoit. Land on one guy to partner with Rielly and a puck moving vet to play on the 3rd pair. Boom, Brad's your uncle.

Up front, I'm leaning youth/cheap on the wings and spending the money on a 2C. Knies, Robertson, McMann down the left is fine by me (b/c they have to pick where to spend). Get a 2C - Stephenson, Karlsson, etc...? If you need help on the wings that's easier to find at the deadline. Plus I like the idea of giving Knies a lot of room/responsibility to grow this year.

But of course all of this changes if they move MM.

- The Law


Broisoitt just seems like another Samsonov type goalie.

Mrazek
Murray
Sammy

So over signing these mid level goalies, rarely turns out.

Can't hold out hoping you get a Hill like run, it is rare.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

May 28 @ 12:14 PM ET
Broisoitt just seems like another Samsonov type goalie.

Mrazek
Murray
Sammy

So over signing these mid level goalies, rarely turns out.

Can't hold out hoping you get a Hill like run, it is rare.

- Santo_44


I agree but the Leafs may not have the best offer on the table for the other 3 guys. Lots of teams will be in on them.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

May 28 @ 12:53 PM ET
Darnell Nurse. Like what in the actual (frank) was the idea behind that contract?
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

May 28 @ 12:54 PM ET
Broisoitt just seems like another Samsonov type goalie.

Mrazek
Murray
Sammy

So over signing these mid level goalies, rarely turns out.

Can't hold out hoping you get a Hill like run, it is rare.

- Santo_44


Swayman for Marner.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 28 @ 1:00 PM ET
Darnell Nurse. Like what in the actual (frank) was the idea behind that contract?
- gravyface

coming off of a great year in the bubble.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 28 @ 1:06 PM ET
Darnell Nurse. Like what in the actual (frank) was the idea behind that contract?
- gravyface

Why is Jack Johnson continuously employed?
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job.
Joined: 01.29.2013

May 28 @ 1:12 PM ET
Why is Jack Johnson continuously employed?
- AdamFrench

Because Jack Johnson is the most athlete name ever. He should be required to sport a 50's Johnny Unitas crewcut and dispense salt tablets on the bench.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

May 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
Charlie Elick - soon to become the new overhyped prodigy in Toronto and the bustiest of busts everywhere else. Projected to go in the 20's.

Elick is a very intriguing pro prospect. He is one of the best skaters in the draft, with a smooth and powerful skating stride. When those feet are combined with his 6-3 frame, strong compete and a little mean streak, he has the potential to be a legit shutdown defenseman in the NHL. Elick isn't a natural puck-mover and can make some questionable puck decisions. He will need to clean that up, but he has good hands and isn't a negative with the puck on his stick. In a role where he just needs to defend well and make a basic outlet, he could potentially have an NHL career.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
Darnell Nurse. Like what in the actual (frank) was the idea behind that contract?
- gravyface


I'll actually frank your behind when we play nurse.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 28 @ 1:26 PM ET
Charlie Elick - soon to become the new overhyped prodigy in Toronto and the bustiest of busts everywhere else. Projected to go in the 20's.

Elick is a very intriguing pro prospect. He is one of the best skaters in the draft, with a smooth and powerful skating stride. When those feet are combined with his 6-3 frame, strong compete and a little mean streak, he has the potential to be a legit shutdown defenseman in the NHL. Elick isn't a natural puck-mover and can make some questionable puck decisions. He will need to clean that up, but he has good hands and isn't a negative with the puck on his stick. In a role where he just needs to defend well and make a basic outlet, he could potentially have an NHL career.

- The Law

Isn't that guy ranked in 3rd?
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

May 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
Because Jack Johnson is the most athlete name ever. He should be required to sport a 50's Johnny Unitas crewcut and dispense salt tablets on the bench.
- GalacticStone

he’s a doggone war hero too👊🏿

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
I think marner stays
But id definitely go for this trade:
Marner to vegas
Hertl and theodore to Toronto

Vegas doesnt do it.
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