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LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Jun 2 @ 1:11 AM ET
Tonight was probably Kakko’s last game as a ranger, should have moved him for a more meaningful upgrade at the deadline
- TPC

Hawks will take him for a third round pick, maybe.
banger94
Season Ticket Holder
New York Rangers
Joined: 04.11.2024

Jun 2 @ 1:11 AM ET
I swear Zib was allergic to hitting someone tonight. So many times where I saw him in the offensive zone pressuring someone, and he cuts and turns after the puck is played without any physical contact with the player playing the puck. So frustrating.
banger94
Season Ticket Holder
New York Rangers
Joined: 04.11.2024

Jun 2 @ 1:25 AM ET
We have Hank 2.0 in Shesterkin. He was far and away our mvp this post season. We need to pay him as the top goalie in the league for a long time. And get better players in front of him.
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Jun 2 @ 1:26 AM ET
Kakko Lindgren Wennberg Roslovic Gus all shouldn’t and won’t be back. Not PO players. Chytl should be moved
- nyrangers2

And you want a first rounder for any one of them, lol
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Jun 2 @ 1:48 AM ET
Hey…hey… hey, hey, hey.
greenyone
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jun 2 @ 6:20 AM ET
We have Hank 2.0 in Shesterkin. He was far and away our mvp this post season. We need to pay him as the top goalie in the league for a long time. And get better players in front of him.
- banger94

I'd argue that Shesterkin is a significant upgrade over Hank. But yeah, they need to surround him with better skaters. I'd like to see them go after Guentzel and maybe a little more skilled grit like Trocheck. Too bad Zib is eating up salary until the end of days.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 2 @ 6:41 AM ET
I absolutely cant wait for DJ Mika to do his first DJ set in the Hamptons. I know hes been thinking about it.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 2 @ 7:08 AM ET
https://x.com/KevinWeekes...R7Sd8ZYJkAM1IoAN1Xxw&s=19

Oh yeah. The demise can start now. Tear it down baby!
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 2 @ 7:45 AM ET
https://x.com/KevinWeekes/status/1797114337003216906?t=mxR7Sd8ZYJkAM1IoAN1Xxw&s=19

Oh yeah. The demise can start now. Tear it down baby!

- blacksheep1


Single handedly the most important non-player this franchise has the last 20 years.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 2 @ 7:54 AM ET
Single handedly the most important non-player this franchise has the last 20 years.
- aecliptic

The only aspect of this team that worth a damn for 2 decades. If he goes, they are DONE done. In a sick and twisted way, I'd be intrigued to see it.
Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 2 @ 8:06 AM ET
The only aspect of this team that worth a damn for 2 decades. If he goes, they are DONE done. In a sick and twisted way, I'd be intrigued to see it.
- blacksheep1

Yup, that would feed right into your hopes and desire of a teardown
Awolff9
New York Rangers
Joined: 02.05.2020

Jun 2 @ 8:09 AM ET
I absolutely cant wait for DJ Mika to do his first DJ set in the Hamptons. I know hes been thinking about it.
- aecliptic


What an empty feeling right now. Absolutely gutted they couldn’t do it. I really thought they had what it took to get the cup this year. I can accept that they just lost to a better team. We can’t argue that. Florida was legit built for the playoffs. I don’t think we need to tear it down. Our window isn’t closing guys for whoever is saying that or thinking that. I don’t get that rational. Sure guys like Panarin, Kreids, and Mika are getting older but I’m not buying the fact that we don’t have what it takes. I do believe that we have some really tough decisions to make moving forward with certain players and see where we can make some additions.

Mika had a really tough series and it’s hard for me to not want to destroy the guy but he’s not going anywhere. Panarin wasn’t horrible but again not getting to the inside of the ice you can see makes a difference in his game.

I think we need to figure out what we are going to do defensively. I would love to get rid of Trouba but not sure how we could make that happen. His cap hit really hurts this team and doesn’t much of anything. He takes dumb penalties and I’m just over it. Fox definitely was playing hurt and it was very evident he was a shell of his former self. He needs to hit the gym this offseason and put on some muscle. Miller needs to be more physical. I know he has this long reach with a poke check BS but he doesn’t play as physical with his size and strength as he should be. Lindgren is a warrior and he needs to come back as the team just plays better when he’s in the lineup. Gus can go and plug Jones in that spot next season.

Kakko is as good as gone. No way I’m bringing him back. Just doesn’t do enough and at this point if he pans out someplace else then so be it. Not going to just continue to hope he hits his potential.

I think guys like Laf, Schneider, Cuyle, & a healthy Chytil will continue to grow and get better. Add in Othman and Perrault and things are looking optimistic. Trying to remain somewhat positive but this team will be back. They absolutely must get a RW this offseason who can be a difference maker.

Laf Tro Panarin

Kreider Mika Guentzal

Cuyle Chytil Othman

Rempe Goodrow Vesey/Jbrod
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 2 @ 8:17 AM ET
What an empty feeling right now. Absolutely gutted they couldn’t do it. I really thought they had what it took to get the cup this year. I can accept that they just lost to a better team. We can’t argue that. Florida was legit built for the playoffs. I don’t think we need to tear it down. Our window isn’t closing guys for whoever is saying that or thinking that. I don’t get that rational. Sure guys like Panarin, Kreids, and Mika are getting older but I’m not buying the fact that we don’t have what it takes. I do believe that we have some really tough decisions to make moving forward with certain players and see where we can make some additions.

Mika had a really tough series and it’s hard for me to not want to destroy the guy but he’s not going anywhere. Panarin wasn’t horrible but again not getting to the inside of the ice you can see makes a difference in his game.

I think we need to figure out what we are going to do defensively. I would love to get rid of Trouba but not sure how we could make that happen. His cap hit really hurts this team and doesn’t much of anything. He takes dumb penalties and I’m just over it. Fox definitely was playing hurt and it was very evident he was a shell of his former self. He needs to hit the gym this offseason and put on some muscle. Miller needs to be more physical. I know he has this long reach with a poke check BS but he doesn’t play as physical with his size and strength as he should be. Lindgren is a warrior and he needs to come back as the team just plays better when he’s in the lineup. Gus can go and plug Jones in that spot next season.

Kakko is as good as gone. No way I’m bringing him back. Just doesn’t do enough and at this point if he pans out someplace else then so be it. Not going to just continue to hope he hits his potential.

I think guys like Laf, Schneider, Cuyle, & a healthy Chytil will continue to grow and get better. Add in Othman and Perrault and things are looking optimistic. Trying to remain somewhat positive but this team will be back. They absolutely must get a RW this offseason who can be a difference maker.

Laf Tro Panarin

Kreider Mika Guentzal

Cuyle Chytil Othman

Rempe Goodrow Vesey/Jbrod

- Awolff9


Guentzel isnt a RW, neither is Othmann no matter how you want to color it. Also, my understanding is Carolina is making it a priority to resign Guenztel.

In the same ilk that Florida was constructed with the sole purpose of beating Tampa, we know how to figure out how to put together a team that will beat Florida. This team clearly lacks the desire and leadership to do so.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 2 @ 8:31 AM ET
Lets say we retain 1.5 to 2m on Zib's contract (basically pull what SJ did with Hertl), does it make it any more enticing for a team to want him?
greenyone
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jun 2 @ 8:58 AM ET
Lets say we retain 1.5 to 2m on Zib's contract (basically pull what SJ did with Hertl), does it make it any more enticing for a team to want him?
- aecliptic

That's a hard sale given his age and term. You'd probably have to find a bottom dweller looking to take on salary in exchange for prospects or picks....then you'd have to convince a guy with a NMC to accept the move. Unfortunately NYR is most likely stuck with him for the next 5 years.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 2 @ 9:06 AM ET
That's a hard sale given his age and term. You'd probably have to find a bottom dweller looking to take on salary in exchange for prospects or picks....then you'd have to convince a guy with a NMC to accept the move. Unfortunately NYR is most likely stuck with him for the next 5 years.
- greenyone



Well, the back end term is horrible, but if you think about a playoff team who may be tight against the cap. Getting a 2 way player who can put up 80-90 points a year for the next few years while only paying 6.5m per year for it could be a worth while deal.

Thats essentially exactly what Vegas did, trading for a 30 year old Hertl, getting SJ to retain a little on the contract, so now they have a cost controlled center for the foreseeable future.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 2 @ 9:15 AM ET
Good run by the team but not good enough.

The second ecf trouba cost his team a back breaking goal to lose game 6.

This offseason Gus Roslovic wennberg all gone. Kakko shouldn’t be brought back. Lindgren only if the contract is ok but he isn’t a top pair dman anymore.

They need big puck moving defenseman and some fwds who can forecheck. This is their last shot bc they have to pay Laf and Igor after next year. When panarin becomes an FA they should replace him with and look to trade trouba that same year bc his ntc kicks in
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 2 @ 9:20 AM ET
Well, the back end term is horrible, but if you think about a playoff team who may be tight against the cap. Getting a 2 way player who can put up 80-90 points a year for the next few years while only paying 6.5m per year for it could be a worth while deal.

Thats essentially exactly what Vegas did, trading for a 30 year old Hertl, getting SJ to retain a little on the contract, so now they have a cost controlled center for the foreseeable future.

- aecliptic

Zibanejad is longer a 2 way player. Bum was eaten alive defensively for the world to see here.
blacksheep1
New York Rangers
Location: Handsome Eddy, IA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 2 @ 9:22 AM ET
Good run by the team but not good enough.

The second ecf trouba cost his team a back breaking goal to lose game 6.

This offseason Gus Roslovic wennberg all gone. Kakko shouldn’t be brought back. Lindgren only if the contract is ok but he isn’t a top pair dman anymore.

They need big puck moving defenseman and some fwds who can forecheck. This is their last shot bc they have to pay Laf and Igor after next year. When panarin becomes an FA they should replace him with and look to trade trouba that same year bc his ntc kicks in

- nyrangers2

Trouba already has an existing 15 team NTC. Rangers are stuck with his sorry excuse of carcass.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 2 @ 9:31 AM ET
Trouba already has an existing 15 team NTC. Rangers are stuck with his sorry excuse of carcass.
- blacksheep1


15 teams is still 15 teams, I think with 1.5-2m retention on his contract, teams would easily take him. Michigan is home, and I think with 2m retained, Yzerman would gladly take him, they need a RD.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 2 @ 9:32 AM ET
Trouba already has an existing 15 team NTC. Rangers are stuck with his sorry excuse of carcass.
- blacksheep1


Doesn’t that kick in after ‘26? They can ask move him to a team not on his list
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 2 @ 9:36 AM ET
Zibanejad is longer a 2 way player. Bum was eaten alive defensively for the world to see here.
- blacksheep1


Well, let me ask you this. What has Hertl done in his career thats so much more significant than Mika's? Their contracts are very similar and they're the same age. Hertl was coming off of knee surgery too. Yet the return for Hertl was a 1st round pick and a prospect.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 2 @ 9:36 AM ET
Doesn’t that kick in after ‘26? They can ask move him to a team not on his list
- nyrangers2


In 2026 hes a free agent.
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 2 @ 9:43 AM ET
And you want a first rounder for any one of them, lol
- LFS


Nobody said that. Why are you even here?
Brukie
New York Rangers
Location: Putnam, NY
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 2 @ 10:07 AM ET
What an empty feeling right now. Absolutely gutted they couldn’t do it. I really thought they had what it took to get the cup this year. I can accept that they just lost to a better team. We can’t argue that. Florida was legit built for the playoffs. I don’t think we need to tear it down. Our window isn’t closing guys for whoever is saying that or thinking that. I don’t get that rational. Sure guys like Panarin, Kreids, and Mika are getting older but I’m not buying the fact that we don’t have what it takes. I do believe that we have some really tough decisions to make moving forward with certain players and see where we can make some additions.

Mika had a really tough series and it’s hard for me to not want to destroy the guy but he’s not going anywhere. Panarin wasn’t horrible but again not getting to the inside of the ice you can see makes a difference in his game.

I think we need to figure out what we are going to do defensively. I would love to get rid of Trouba but not sure how we could make that happen. His cap hit really hurts this team and doesn’t much of anything. He takes dumb penalties and I’m just over it. Fox definitely was playing hurt and it was very evident he was a shell of his former self. He needs to hit the gym this offseason and put on some muscle. Miller needs to be more physical. I know he has this long reach with a poke check BS but he doesn’t play as physical with his size and strength as he should be. Lindgren is a warrior and he needs to come back as the team just plays better when he’s in the lineup. Gus can go and plug Jones in that spot next season.

Kakko is as good as gone. No way I’m bringing him back. Just doesn’t do enough and at this point if he pans out someplace else then so be it. Not going to just continue to hope he hits his potential.

I think guys like Laf, Schneider, Cuyle, & a healthy Chytil will continue to grow and get better. Add in Othman and Perrault and things are looking optimistic. Trying to remain somewhat positive but this team will be back. They absolutely must get a RW this offseason who can be a difference maker.

Laf Tro Panarin

Kreider Mika Guentzal

Cuyle Chytil Othman

Rempe Goodrow Vesey/Jbrod

- Awolff9



3 years ago we got lucky playing 3rd string goalies, last year smacked down by the Devils, this year carried by Igor and another disappearing act by Mika. This team isn't built for the playoffs. Our first line had 1 goal in the series, no goals from the third line.

This team is built for the regular season, enjoy the Presidents Trophy
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